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G1 Opening Credits

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:57 pm
by ForensicPrime
So I just got the Madman G1 Transformers Complete Collection from Australia today and I'm stoked...the thing looks great. Anyway, I popped the first disk in and hit play on the first episode, More Than Meets the Eye P1, and the opening credits started. Now the credits that ran had Grimlock biting the Transformers logo at the beginning and also had the Constructicons, Insecticons, and other Transformers that were definitely not created until, at the least, later in the first season. It was much more detailed than the original opening credits from the episodes uploaded to You Tube. Now I remember this more detailed opening, but I don't remember it being during the first season.
Does anyone know when this opening credit animation was supposed to be airing? I realize it couldn't have been the 3rd or 4th season since Optimus and Megatron where in it and those guys were dead after the movie. Was it the second season? Or was it something else?

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:26 pm
by Damolisher
Yeah, it's the Season 2 opener.

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:32 pm
by ForensicPrime
Damolisher wrote:Yeah, it's the Season 2 opener.
Ah..okay, that makes sense. Then why did they have it opening for the first season on the DVD? That seems like a fairly large mistake for Madman on an otherwise really really well done package.

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:38 pm
by i_amtrunks
Can't remember if they have the Season 1 opening on their individual sets....
I'd hazard a guess at them using S2 versions because they didnt like the quality of the S1 opening credits.

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:23 pm
by sto_vo_kor_2000
Sounds like the season 2 opener....cant tell you why its there....it might be that the target market of the madman DVD box set is in a area that didnt get the serries untill season 2 was arring in the U.S. so the fans may have never seen the season 1 opener.Thats just a guess.

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:18 pm
by i_amtrunks
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Sounds like the season 2 opener....cant tell you why its there....it might be that the target market of the madman DVD box set is in a area that didnt get the serries untill season 2 was arring in the U.S. so the fans may have never seen the season 1 opener.Thats just a guess.
We got Season 1 Sto! Although it didn't start until Season 2 was halfway through airing in the USA and other areas.
I'll have to check the original Madman season boxsets (when I get them back) to see what opener they use..

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:42 pm
by sto_vo_kor_2000
i_amtrunks wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Sounds like the season 2 opener....cant tell you why its there....it might be that the target market of the madman DVD box set is in a area that didnt get the serries untill season 2 was arring in the U.S. so the fans may have never seen the season 1 opener.Thats just a guess.
We got Season 1 Sto! Although it didn't start until Season 2 was halfway through airing in the USA and other areas.
I'll have to check the original Madman season boxsets (when I get them back) to see what opener they use..
Like I said it was a guess...I wasnt even sure where Madmans target market is...and I wasnt saying that you guys didnt get season 1 just that you may not have gotten the season 1 opener.There's a simular issue here in the U.S. ,5 face's of Darkness had a alternate opener to the rest of season 3 but it wasnt seen in every state.Also there were a few states that never got the season 4 rebirth 3 parter.Again there were a few states that didnt get the so-called season 5 that feature a pupet Power Master Prime retelling the episodes to that little kid [Tommy I think]

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:47 pm
by i_amtrunks
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Like I said it was a guess...I wasnt even sure where Madmans target market is...and I wasnt saying that you guys didnt get season 1 just that you may not have gotten the season 1 opener.There's a simular issue here in the U.S. ,5 face's of Darkness had a alternate opener to the rest of season 3 but it wasnt seen in every state.Also there were a few states that never got the season 4 rebirth 3 parter.Again there were a few states that didnt get the so-called season 5 that feature a pupet Power Master Prime retelling the episodes to that little kid [Tommy I think]
Thats Awesomesauce! We have a similar state structure he in Australia too, where no two states run the same tv schedules (amongst other things) so I can only speak from a NSW and WA perspective on the airing of G1. I do know that the "G2" series got a good run in both states, hell they were still showing the reruns Rebirth of Prime as a special "2 piece special" episode back in 1997!

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:54 pm
by sto_vo_kor_2000
i_amtrunks wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Like I said it was a guess...I wasnt even sure where Madmans target market is...and I wasnt saying that you guys didnt get season 1 just that you may not have gotten the season 1 opener.There's a simular issue here in the U.S. ,5 face's of Darkness had a alternate opener to the rest of season 3 but it wasnt seen in every state.Also there were a few states that never got the season 4 rebirth 3 parter.Again there were a few states that didnt get the so-called season 5 that feature a pupet Power Master Prime retelling the episodes to that little kid [Tommy I think]
Thats Awesomesauce! We have a similar state structure he in Australia too, where no two states run the same tv schedules (amongst other things) so I can only speak from a NSW and WA perspective on the airing of G1. I do know that the "G2" series got a good run in both states, hell they were still showing the reruns Rebirth of Prime as a special "2 piece special" episode back in 1997!
The G2 season [if thats what you want to call it] wasnt picked up in every state here ether and in most that did ran it at some pretty odd hours.And it took you guys that long to get rebirth????Thats 10 years after us


Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:55 pm
by sto_vo_kor_2000
ooopppppsssssssss

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:52 pm
by i_amtrunks
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:And it took you guys that long to get rebirth????Thats 10 years after us

Nono, we got it in 1989 (or thereabouts) but a channel that did not have Beast Wars, was still showing the Rebirth of Prime/Hate Plague episodes split over a few weeks, and tried to sell it off as a "special movie" to try and compete.

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:59 pm
by sto_vo_kor_2000
i_amtrunks wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:And it took you guys that long to get rebirth????Thats 10 years after us

Nono, we got it in 1989 (or thereabouts) but a channel that did not have Beast Wars, was still showing the Rebirth of Prime/Hate Plague episodes split over a few weeks, and tried to sell it off as a "special movie" to try and compete.
Thats the Return of Optimus Prime.....the one I was referring to was The Rebirth Headmasters but thats still cool that they aired it again as recently as 10 years ago.

Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:40 pm
by i_amtrunks
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:i_amtrunks wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:And it took you guys that long to get rebirth????Thats 10 years after us

Nono, we got it in 1989 (or thereabouts) but a channel that did not have Beast Wars, was still showing the Rebirth of Prime/Hate Plague episodes split over a few weeks, and tried to sell it off as a "special movie" to try and compete.
Thats the Return of Optimus Prime.....the one I was referring to was The Rebirth Headmasters but thats still cool that they aired it again as recently as 10 years ago.
Hey its a (Very) Thunderstormy Friday afternoon and there are no bosses in! Cut me some slack as my brain has turned off!


Posted:
Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:52 pm
by sto_vo_kor_2000
i_amtrunks wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:i_amtrunks wrote:sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:And it took you guys that long to get rebirth????Thats 10 years after us

Nono, we got it in 1989 (or thereabouts) but a channel that did not have Beast Wars, was still showing the Rebirth of Prime/Hate Plague episodes split over a few weeks, and tried to sell it off as a "special movie" to try and compete.
Thats the Return of Optimus Prime.....the one I was referring to was The Rebirth Headmasters but thats still cool that they aired it again as recently as 10 years ago.
Hey its a (Very) Thunderstormy Friday afternoon and there are no bosses in! Cut me some slack as my brain has turned off!

Its almost 2 am Friday for me and I cant seem to sleep so at least nether of us is doing good


Posted:
Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:28 am
by Leonardo
Do any of the other season one episodes on the Madman set have the season two titles?
My Sony VHS season one box set also does crazy things with the titles. Some episodes have season one's opening, some have season two's, and some (like "The Ultimate Doom") have season two's visuals but with season three's music!

Posted:
Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:26 pm
by i_amtrunks
Leonardo wrote:Do any of the other season one episodes on the Madman set have the season two titles?
My Sony VHS season one box set also does crazy things with the titles. Some episodes have season one's opening, some have season two's, and some (like "The Ultimate Doom") have season two's visuals but with season three's music!
From memory (and It's been a while since I watched my season 1 set) I think that there were some episodes with the Season 1 and some with the season 2 opener, but I cannot recall the ratio. That and I did a big long viewing of Season 1 and 2, so I may have muddled myself up even more...

Posted:
Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:05 pm
by ForensicPrime
Well, I haven't gotten through all the episodes yet, only the first 2 parts of More Than Meets The Eye. However, if I discover that they show the S1 opening on any other disks I'll post it. Still, to me, it's a little odd that they went this route. I mean, the first two episodes video wasn't very good quality, in fact it was pretty poor. I can't imagine they would not put in the S1 opening because of the visual quality.

Posted:
Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:34 pm
by ForensicPrime
Well, this is interesting. On disk 1.1 there are the first 5 episodes. On 4 of them (More Than Meets the Eye P1-3 and Roll For It(ep 5)) there is the season 2 opening credits. On episode 4(Transport To Oblivion) there is the original season 1 opening credits. Weird. Well, at least they have it on some of them.