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Questions about a bad headmasters dub

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:04 am
by Skice
ok so a long time ago I bought these tapes of the complete headmasters series and I noticed a lot of bad screw ups mainly with names like
Blaster is Billy
Twincast is Blaster
Blurr is Wally
Metroplex is Burt
Soundblaster is New Soundwave
Jazz is Marshall
Spike is Sparkle
Hot Rod is Roadimus Prime
Roddimus Prime is Optimus Prime Roadimus Prime
The Terrorcons are the Reptile regiment
the Trainbots are the robot train
the Protectabots are the Rescue Regiment
planet Char is planet Jolo
and The Matrix is called the Power Pack so are Energon cubes
the list goes on. anyone else seen this version and do you know why all these names are so screwed up?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:26 am
by Leonardo
Yes, lots of us have seen these poor dubs. They're also on the Headmasters DVD box set (although there is an option to view the episodes in the original Japanese with English subtitles.

From the TF Wiki, regarding these dubs:

TF Wiki wrote:Never professionally released in the United States, The Headmasters was dubbed into English in Hong Kong for broadcast on the Malaysian TV channel, RTM 1, and later the Singapore satellite station, StarTV, where it attained greater fame, leading it to often be referred to as the "StarTV dub." The dub is, however, infamous for its poor quality, full of mistranslations and incorrect names, clearly the work of a small group of individuals (literally, less than half-a-dozen actors fill every role) with little knowledge of the material. This dub has seen some DVD releases in the United Kingdom, and the entire series was released in a dual-language format in 2005.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:32 am
by iron maniac
Subtitles or dub, the series just isn't that good or well written.
It has its moments but not that damned many, and even the moments that it does have(Soundwave & Blaster battle to the "death") are eclipsed because the characters are brought back in the next freaking episode or 2.
Sixshot is this HUGE badass autobot killer and then becomes "Uncle Sixshot: Daniels little bitch".

Uncle Sixshot, Galvatron surviving Cybertron blowing up but getting killed by some lame glaciers, Daniel, and DANIEL. :-x Brain farts across the board in this series.

The 2 classic lines from the series:
"Darn that Soundwave! AARRGGHH!!"

"Don't worry everythings fine, its SO obvious that we're going to win."

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:13 am
by Skice
iron maniac wrote:Subtitles or dub, the series just isn't that good or well written.
It has its moments but not that damned many, and even the moments that it does have(Soundwave & Blaster battle to the "death") are eclipsed because the characters are brought back in the next freaking episode or 2.
Sixshot is this HUGE badass autobot killer and then becomes "Uncle Sixshot: Daniels little bitch".

Uncle Sixshot, Galvatron surviving Cybertron blowing up but getting killed by some lame glaciers, Daniel, and DANIEL. :-x Brain farts across the board in this series.

The 2 classic lines from the series:
"Darn that Soundwave! AARRGGHH!!"

"Don't worry every things fine, its SO obvious that we're going to win."
Actually i really enjoyed the series overall with the exception of the bad Voices/translation and Daniel. god I hate Daniel and wheelie I hate them so much :-x

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:23 pm
by Sledge
Pish posh! The dub is the best thing about that series. Other than that, it's really quite bad.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:06 pm
by i_amtrunks
Thats the Star dub right?

I'll get to hear it on the Madman Headmasters release when I mozy on down to nab it!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:56 pm
by Sherade
Why waste money on it when we have youtube?
I just like when Metroplex rolls in and they say "Look, it's Phillip!"

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:36 pm
by Skice
gotta love how they refer to wingspan and pounce as just wingspan and Fastlane and Cloudraker as just Cloudraker. I sware in one episode it really sounds like someone calls Cromedome "condom". I sware.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:53 pm
by ThunderThruster
Autobot420 wrote:gotta love how they refer to wingspan and pounce as just wingspan and Fastlane and Cloudraker as just Cloudraker. I sware in one episode it really sounds like someone calls Cromedome "condom". I sware.


Thats why i watch it in japanese and just read the subtitles!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:09 pm
by Sherade
Two words...Uncle Sixshot. :P

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:12 pm
by doomboy536
To sum up:

Sixshot = originally awesome but then turns into a loser
The dub = godawful, watch it with English subs
Wheelie and Daniel = EVEN MORE ANNOYING THAN EVER!!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:36 pm
by Tekka
Sherade wrote:Why waste money on it when we have youtube?
I just like when Metroplex rolls in and they say "Look, it's Phillip!"

Damn you, I laughed so hard it hurt.

Damn you!!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:40 pm
by Skice
Tekka wrote:
Sherade wrote:Why waste money on it when we have youtube?
I just like when Metroplex rolls in and they say "Look, it's Phillip!"

Damn you, I laughed so hard it hurt.

Damn you!!!
don't you mean Darn you! Darn you autobots I'll send you straight to hell. that's another thing they could say hell but not damn WTF is up with that?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:47 pm
by Tekka
Reminds me of the one and only DBZ episode I ever watched. Cell had just killed the inhabitants of entire town and all Piccolo had to say about it was: "DAAAAAAAAAARN!"

Oh my chest... laughing... painful... must... recover...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:41 pm
by Elita One
ThunderThruster wrote:
Autobot420 wrote:gotta love how they refer to wingspan and pounce as just wingspan and Fastlane and Cloudraker as just Cloudraker. I sware in one episode it really sounds like someone calls Cromedome "condom". I sware.


Thats why i watch it in japanese and just read the subtitles!

Im the same as you. Ive picked up more Japanese words and phrases by watching subtitled shows and movies than I did learning the language at school. I know Italian alot better though.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:10 am
by iron maniac
doomboy536 wrote:To sum up:

Sixshot = originally awesome but then turns into a loser
The dub = godawful, watch it with English subs
Wheelie and Daniel = EVEN MORE ANNOYING THAN EVER!!!


Loser? Thats an understatement, Uncle Sixshot downright becomes Daniels little bitch by the end of the series. #-o

"Help me Uncle Sixshot!!"

"You are very kind Daniel, and I'm glad I can talk to you."

"Eat your food Daniel, you'll need it"

"OK, Uncle Sixshot." :shock:

WTF? This guy was a total bad-ass, ruthlessly killing autobots left and right. He killed Ultra Magnus and laughed about it, Murdered Chromedomes best friend and then....Uncle Sixshot? :-x

SHEESH, I was waiting for Sixshot to say something like "Daniel can I just be your little bitch now?"

If I got stranded on a planet with Daniel I just don't think I could keep from smashing him accidentally. I mean, could you even IMAGINE being stranded on a planet with DANIEL?????
Maybe Sixshot knocked a few of his own screws loose when he hit his head coming down to the planet?

Wheelie and Daniel are off the freaking charts annoying.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:17 am
by Insurgent
Sixshot only got called Uncle Sixshot in the dub.

In the sub, he was only refered to as a friend, nor did he make any stupid comments to daniel about eating food and whatnot. In the sub, he remains an hounarable, ruthless, cold blooded killer, that looks out for his friends.

It's called character development.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:19 pm
by Damolisher
He's still daniel's bitch.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:48 pm
by Sherade
Damolisher wrote:He's still daniel's bitch.

QFT.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:55 pm
by Windsweeper
Actually i really enjoyed the series overall with the exception of the bad Voices/translation and Daniel. god I hate Daniel and wheelie I hate them so much :-x[/quote]

I agree, great series if you can get past the voices. TF Cog has actually re-dubbed some episodes and they are a lot better for it.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:51 pm
by Damolisher
It's quite sad that there's no effort to give any personality to characters in this crappy dub, either. It's just idiots with no real comprehension of the English language reading lines off a script. I wonder if we'll have have identities for these talentless idiots.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:15 pm
by Chris McFeely
I happened to watch a dub of the Jackie Chan movie, "Police Story 2," when it was on TV last weekend, and nearly fell out of my chair when I heard the StarTV dub voices. Jackie's boss was Galvatron!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:12 pm
by Damolisher
Wow, Darn that Jackie Chan, then, eh? lol.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:18 pm
by Liege Evilmus
I payed $30(shipping included) for all 3 of the Japanesse series dubbed. I wasn't expecting anything good, and I know, I know, things in japanesse are the best thing ever...

...but not for me!

So hey, it's affordable, take it for what it is and run with it cause if they did a profesional dub the complete set would probably run about $350.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:21 pm
by Liege Evilmus
Windsweeper wrote:god I hate Daniel and wheelie I hate them so much :-x


!!!YES BURN THEM BURN THEM SEND THEM TO HELL!!!