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In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:19 pm
by Energon
In all the 25 years of Transformers, who do you feel has been (or is) the most important writer of TF comics and why?

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:11 pm
by ponycorn
Has anyone been more prolific on both shores and through as many different publishers and continuitites as Simon Furman? He's the obvious choice in my book, but does sheer quantity = influence?

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:14 am
by Scatterlung
every writer involved in Beast Wars.

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:19 am
by Name_Violation
all the ones who DIDN'T write beast machines

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:10 am
by MYoung23
Name_Violation wrote:all the ones who DIDN'T write beast machines


co-sign

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:56 am
by Energon
Were there Beast Machines comics?

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:41 am
by Stormwolf
Simon Furman, the guy saved the original comic from cancellation when Bob was going to downhill.

Though I have to admit that Bob's early work like "The New Order" and "The Smelting Pool/Bridge to Nowhere" were excellent stories.

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:00 pm
by Skullgrin140
Simon Furman, easily the guy holding the whole thing up this long. Although I do think Bob Budiansky needs to come back and maybe contribute to IDW.

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:39 pm
by Sledge
Simon Furman is responsible for me having no interest in TF comics. Does that count as "important"?

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:54 pm
by Stormwolf
Skullgrin140 wrote:Simon Furman, easily the guy holding the whole thing up this long. Although I do think Bob Budiansky needs to come back and maybe contribute to IDW.


Well, he has been approached for this, unfortunately he didn't have any interest in working on the current ongoing.

He did however do some writing on the IDW TFTM adaption:

http://www.seibertron.com/comics/view.php?comic_id=837

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:16 pm
by Name_Violation
tf's wouldn't be what is is today without furman. I'm not sayin its a good or bad thing, i'm sayin he's been involved in it and helped shape what we all debate about endlessly :P

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:39 pm
by Emperor Primacron the 1st
Beast Wars writers.

They had the best stuff. :mrgreen:

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:48 am
by Venomous Prime
MYoung23 wrote:
Name_Violation wrote:all the ones who DIDN'T write beast machines


co-sign


Beast Machines was bloody amazing!

No Decepticon/Predacon leader was as evil as BM Megatron. He committed genocide of his own people.

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:26 am
by Chaoslock
Furman would be the answer that comes to mind at first, but those who started the marvel comics were amazing as well (the story where Ratchet is the only autobot left against Megatron, and he digs out the dinobots... one of the finest stories.)

original sin wrote:
MYoung23 wrote:
Name_Violation wrote:all the ones who DIDN'T write beast machines


co-sign


Beast Machines was bloody amazing!

No Decepticon/Predacon leader was as evil as BM Megatron. He committed genocide of his own people.


The Beast Machines preds/vehicons were cool, that's given, but the maximals and their quasy-cosmic powers... just why? Beast Wars worked, because they were still robots in disguise, but BM turned into transforming fleshlings with magical powers.

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:36 pm
by Energon
Sledge wrote:Simon Furman is responsible for me having no interest in TF comics. Does that count as "important"?


It is important to you. I would be curious as to why though.

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:02 am
by Cyberstrike
original sin wrote:
MYoung23 wrote:
Name_Violation wrote:all the ones who DIDN'T write beast machines


co-sign


Beast Machines was bloody amazing!

No Decepticon/Predacon leader was as evil as BM Megatron. He committed genocide of his own people.



Agreed. I think Beast Machines is lot better than Robots in Disguise, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and is light years ahead of Tranformers: Animated. Beast Wars is better but just barely.

For the record Beast Machines Megatron is the best Megatron...EVER. Period. End of Story.

Back on topic: Simon Furman, Bob Budiansky, Bob Forward, and Larry DiTillio are the best writers in Transformers history. Because they all created and in some cases still contribute so much to it.

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:38 am
by Grimpoo
Cyberstrike wrote:Agreed. I think Beast Machines is lot better than Robots in Disguise, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and is light years ahead of Tranformers: Animated. Beast Wars is better but just barely.

For the record Beast Machines Megatron is the best Megatron...EVER. Period. End of Story.

Back on topic: Simon Furman, Bob Budiansky, Bob Forward, and Larry DiTillio are the best writers in Transformers history. Because they all created and in some cases still contribute so much to it.


WTF???? His Motives might have been the best. But I'm sorry to disagree Marvels G1 megatron was the best. And sorry for getting off topic...Furman drives me nuts. Bob Budiansky was brilliant. What happened to ravage actually speaking?

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:40 pm
by Name_Violation
i give you BM Megatron WAS awesome, but Preachmus Primal...SOOOOOOOOO bad. They ruined everyone BUT megatron. Black aracknia becane a damzel in distress drama queen, creetor got teenage angst, and the rest of the characters we'rnt too good. Granted Botanica WAS original, and nightscream was kinda cool.

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:16 am
by justynnbailey
Furman.

That said, I did enjoy the "Brad Mick" (I dont know how to spell the guy's real name) DW storyline....

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:54 am
by Venomous Prime
Grimpoo wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:Agreed. I think Beast Machines is lot better than Robots in Disguise, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and is light years ahead of Tranformers: Animated. Beast Wars is better but just barely.

For the record Beast Machines Megatron is the best Megatron...EVER. Period. End of Story.

Back on topic: Simon Furman, Bob Budiansky, Bob Forward, and Larry DiTillio are the best writers in Transformers history. Because they all created and in some cases still contribute so much to it.


WTF???? His Motives might have been the best. But I'm sorry to disagree Marvels G1 megatron was the best. And sorry for getting off topic...Furman drives me nuts. Bob Budiansky was brilliant. What happened to ravage actually speaking?



BM Megatron committed genocide and was pretty damn successful. Seeings how the only survivors were a few Maximals. Therefor, he's the best Megatron because he was the most successful :P

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:50 am
by YoImLegend
original sin wrote:
Grimpoo wrote:
Cyberstrike wrote:Agreed. I think Beast Machines is lot better than Robots in Disguise, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and is light years ahead of Tranformers: Animated. Beast Wars is better but just barely.

For the record Beast Machines Megatron is the best Megatron...EVER. Period. End of Story.

Back on topic: Simon Furman, Bob Budiansky, Bob Forward, and Larry DiTillio are the best writers in Transformers history. Because they all created and in some cases still contribute so much to it.


WTF???? His Motives might have been the best. But I'm sorry to disagree Marvels G1 megatron was the best. And sorry for getting off topic...Furman drives me nuts. Bob Budiansky was brilliant. What happened to ravage actually speaking?



BM Megatron committed genocide and was pretty damn successful. Seeings how the only survivors were a few Maximals. Therefor, he's the best Megatron because he was the most successful :P



Success is a rare thing amongst Megatrons isn't it?? He really freed himself up to awesome things when he gave up that typical megatron goal of strapping rockets to the side of a planet and pushing it somewhere it shouldn't be. Maybe it's because he never "upgraded" to Galvatron. It always seems to happen when he upgrades to Galvatron... Rebirth... Cybertron...

Wise judgement, BM Megatron, wise indeed.

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:54 pm
by Name_Violation
yeah beast machines did'nt do the galvatron thing. unusual

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:36 pm
by Venomous Prime
I guess the closest thing to a "Galvatron" upgrade he got was when he used Primal's Optimal Optimus body

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:43 pm
by Skice
Name_Violation wrote: Granted Botanica WAS original

However "original" dose not always mean "good". Take Botanica for example. Animal alt modes are OK but I refuse to accept plantformers that is just stupid.

Re: In 25 years of TF's who do...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:21 pm
by Grimpoo
Skice wrote:[quote="Name_Violation" Granted Botanica WAS original

However "original" dose not always mean "good". Take Botanica for example. Animal alt modes are OK but I refuse to accept plantformers that is just stupid.[/quote]

Meh you would say different if the "plantformer" was a cannabis plant triple changer...Weed/Pipe/Humanoid robot