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What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:03 am
by Skice
Out of all of the Transformers comics produced. What is considered the absolute worst one. I also want to know why it's the worst one. I want to submit it to linkara on thatguywiththeglasses.com so he can review it(he reviews bad comics like the avgn reviews video games). Linkara is awesome and he needs to burn a bad Transformers comic.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:02 am
by Burn
Personally, as anti-TF/GI Joe as i've been, they're still a better read than the god-awful trainwreck that was TF/New Avengers.

Second to that would be the Micromaster mini-series.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:22 am
by Snowcat
Car Wash of Doom?

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:38 pm
by Iron Chef Energon
Big Broadcast of 2006.

I'm not a big fan of All Hail Megatron or the live action movie tie-ins, either.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:16 pm
by i_amtrunks
Burn wrote:Personally, as anti-TF/GI Joe as i've been, they're still a better read than the god-awful trainwreck that was TF/New Avengers.

Second to that would be the Micromaster mini-series.


Got to agree that both of those comics are damn awful, the Megatron: Origins Comic from IDW is also pretty terrible, but it seems worse as it needed aonly a little more work (and maybe a few more issues) to be a decent series. Nothing could save TF/New Avengers or the Micromasters comics, they were woe from start till finish.

Some of the late Marvel stories penned by Budiansky are terrible too, and Marvel UK's crossovers with GI Joe were mind bogglingly silly.

Reign of Starscream, and the DW G1 ongoing issues were weak, but nowhere near as terrible as the aforementioned comics.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:47 pm
by Windsweeper
Car Wash of Doom

Mirage:Spotlight

Optimus Prime:Spotlight

Stormbringer. At least Micromasters had characters.

IDW is the worst publisher. I always looked forward to the Marvel and Dreamwave TF comics.

Though I have actually enjoyed what I read of AHM and Reign of Starscream.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:27 pm
by Skice
Why Is Micromasters considered bad? (I've never read it)

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:57 pm
by i_amtrunks
Skice wrote:Why Is Micromasters considered bad? (I've never read it)


No story or plot to speak of, just a jumble of characters spitting out jumbles of words.

To top it off you cannot tell where characters end and backgrounds begin, you have to guess who is meant to be who and the colours vary from drab grey to drab brown.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:11 pm
by Darth Bombshell
i_amtrunks wrote:No story or plot to speak of, just a jumble of characters spitting out jumbles of words.


Not to mention the "artwork", which manages the impossible of making Pat Lee look good.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:08 pm
by Duke of Luns
i_amtrunks wrote:
Skice wrote:Why Is Micromasters considered bad? (I've never read it)


No story or plot to speak of, just a jumble of characters spitting out jumbles of words.

To top it off you cannot tell where characters end and backgrounds begin, you have to guess who is meant to be who and the colours vary from drab grey to drab brown.


Agreed on all points, but the art isn't all that bad. It's just that the panels are all too cramped together, and many Micro's don't have back kibble. That's a pretty major point considering that's one of the few ways to tell Micro's apart. I do applaud Dreamwave for trying to flesh out that part of the G1 Universe, but the results really are less than spectacular.

Windsweeper wrote:
Mirage:Spotlight


I think I agree here too. A completely wasted Spotlight. Generic story, "evil" interpretation of a character who was making his first appearance in the IDWverse, and it does absolutely nothing to advance anything we knew about the Universe in the first place. The art however, is good.

Marvel U.S.'s Transformer/G.I. Joe Crossover. I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up. Let's see:

Dumb plot. The Deceps/Cobra try to steal some new fangled satelite. Booooring.

Poor art. Ok, I know some of Transformers art wasn't the greatest(mostly due to coloring), but this is just the worst of the bunch.

Tied to closely to continuity, and appearing/disapearing characters. Try reading this thing by itself without having any knowledge of what was going on in either comic at the time. The first issue is a not-so subtle advert for Superion basically, who disapears right after the second issue starts. Prime, Cobra Commander, and Megatron all appear in the first issue, and by the second Prime and CC are gone(Prime died, CC disapeared), and Megatron's depressed. Third issue, Megs is gone and replaced by Shockwave. Talk about confusing. Plus Dirge dies for no real reason.

There are other flaws, but I think that just about sums up everything.

At least Avengers/Transformers is somewhat coherent.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:06 am
by Burn
Duke of Luns wrote:At least Avengers/Transformers is somewhat coherent.


But it was still a massive wank fest for Tony Stark/Iron Man.

TF's took a backseat to that ego maniac. "Oh hi, i'm Tony Stark, I just happen to have a giant Sentinel sized Iron Man suit sitting around that's compatible with alien technology"

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:37 am
by Energon
AHM #1 was by far the worst TF comic I have ever read. It took all of 20 seconds to read it. There was no character development or support. It was just plain BORING!

At least Car Wash of Doom had a plot, but it was just dumb and insignificant. The Big Broadcast was pretty lame also but I lump it in with all those other stories that came out in the trade paperback where Budanski introduced 12 new characters an issue.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:04 am
by Darth Bombshell
Duke of Luns wrote:Agreed on all points, but the art isn't all that bad.


Dude. Get glasses. Seriously. How anyone can think anything Rob Ruffolo draws "isn't all that bad" is a mystery to me.

Unless you're blind. Then that explains everything.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:45 am
by Calvatron
For me it was DW's ongoing #9 and 10. I loved the art, the story (they payoff we'd been waiting a year and a half for with megatron, and Predaking, but they were advertising upcoming comics that hadn't even been announced yet when they knew they were going under. Having that little reference to "Rules of Extinction", whatever that was supposed to be, without it having even been announced yet in the issue i get 2 weeks before they declared bankruptcy left the worst taste in my mouth of everything DW did to its fans.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:52 am
by Snowcat
I'd also vote the first DW GI Joe/Transformers crossover.

Not a bad story, if a little plot-holey, but the art was awful, just awful. I couldn't work out what on earth was going on most of the time, such was the poor quality.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:25 pm
by Chaoslock
Why is the Mirage spotlight considered bad? I think it was a good sidestory. The only spotlight that was really bad was the Sp.: Ramjet.


Personally, the worst of the worst is:
1. Any non-marvel TF/GIJoe crossover, especially the last part of the Devils Due comic (the marvel comics were good, everything else was waste)

2. the Beast Within (...)

3. TF/Avengers crossover (pathetic)

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:12 pm
by Dead Metal
Chaoslock wrote:
2. the Beast Within (...)


Hey it's better and more enjoyable then AHM!

I have to vote for worst TF single comic issue to be, TFvs GIJoe part1 of the Unicron story thing.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:43 pm
by ponycorn
Dead Metal wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:
2. the Beast Within (...)


Hey it's better and more enjoyable then AHM!

I have to vote for worst TF single comic issue to be, TFvs GIJoe part1 of the Unicron story thing.


Do you mean the Devil's Due Black Horizon series?

Though I can't agree with you on AHM at all, I do agree with you on that one.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:49 am
by Dead Metal
ponycorn wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:
2. the Beast Within (...)


Hey it's better and more enjoyable then AHM!

I have to vote for worst TF single comic issue to be, TFvs GIJoe part1 of the Unicron story thing.


Do you mean the Devil's Due Black Horizon series?

Though I can't agree with you on AHM at all, I do agree with you on that one.

Yup I mean that one.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:08 am
by Firebird
I'm not a fan of the GI Joe Transformers Black Horizon crossover, Or the Transformers Avengers thing. Still can't believe I bought those #-o

Spotlight Mirage was one of the weakest Spotlights in my opinion. And I still don't like All Hail Megatron.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:26 pm
by i_amtrunks
Firebird wrote:Spotlight Mirage was one of the weakest Spotlights in my opinion. And I still don't like All Hail Megatron.


It was a waste of a Spotlight considering it ties into nothing IDW have published, but it wasn't a terrible stand-alone comic, it was a very quick read, but it was a very nice looking quick read.

Can't say the same for the other Spotlight that added nothing to the IDw grand scheme of things: Ramjet.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:31 pm
by Darth Bombshell
i_amtrunks wrote:Can't say the same for the other Spotlight that added nothing to the IDw grand scheme of things: Ramjet.


That's most likely because it wasn't supposed to add anything to the IDW grand scheme of things. It was supposed to add to the NA/Transformers travesty.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:49 am
by Marcdachamp
Transformers US (Marvel) 28-38(ish): Ratbat leads Decepticons, whines about fuel. Grimlock leads Autobots, acts less intelligent than in any other incarnation. Awful. Micromaster wrestling in the mid-50's was pretty bad, too.

DW's run: I love what IDW has done. It's a fresh look and everything fits pretty nicely together, for the most part. DW's run is exactly how you don't start up a universe. No stories sync up whatsoever, and the last few issues were just updated G1 story plots. The Sunstorm arc was really tough to get through. War Within is the only exception, in my humble opinion.

I'll defend the Big Broadcast of 2006 for one reason: Furman was able to use it as a really cool start up for his UK Space Pirates story after he was forced to reprint it.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:50 pm
by Windsweeper
Dreamwave's G1 was great. At least they knew the characters. Plus I liked Pat Lee's art. Much better than Nick Roche's tribute to Andy Wildman crap. At least Mr. Lee can draw robots.

I have never been so disappointed with a TF comic until I picked up the Mirage, Ramjet and Blaster spotlights.

In one panel, Dreamwave summed up G1 Ramjet's character hilariously. IDW made him a third rate Starscream. Also Furman does great epics but they need to get someone else to collaberate with him for dialogue and character. He always turns the patient and logical Prowl into a whiner.

I loved the Devil's Due TF/GI Joe comics. At least they know the characters. Much prefer those to IDW's G1.

Re: What is considered the worst comic in TF history?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:16 am
by Marcdachamp
Windsweeper wrote:Dreamwave's G1 was great. At least they knew the characters. Plus I liked Pat Lee's art. Much better than Nick Roche's tribute to Andy Wildman crap. At least Mr. Lee can draw robots.

I have never been so disappointed with a TF comic until I picked up the Mirage, Ramjet and Blaster spotlights.

In one panel, Dreamwave summed up G1 Ramjet's character hilariously. IDW made him a third rate Starscream. Also Furman does great epics but they need to get someone else to collaberate with him for dialogue and character. He always turns the patient and logical Prowl into a whiner.

I loved the Devil's Due TF/GI Joe comics. At least they know the characters. Much prefer those to IDW's G1.

The idea behind IDW's Transformers is that it's supposed to be a new take on the characters. Not just a repeat.