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things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 9:54 am
by CrabHeart
black arachnia is still alive.
waspinator is pulling himself together.
oilslick and strika are still running around in space.
blitzwing is somewhere?
we dont know exactly where sari came from.
rodimus is still cosmicly rustified.
dinobots are still on dinobot island.
blurrs spark is still online but he hasnt been put back together yet.
the starscream clones
wreck gar
and the constructicons.

just things to think about!

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:34 am
by Skullgrin140
Sari's origin
Sentinal getting suckerpunched by Optimus
Magnus waking up
What becomes of The Dinobots & Constructicons?
Waspinator & Blackarachnia's arrival on Prehistoric earth

All those things.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 11:50 am
by Noshrok Grimskull
By rights, and given their (presumably close) proximity to Sumdac Tower during the final moments of the fight, the Dinobots, the Constructicons and Wreck-Gar should all have suffered the same fate as Starscream...

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:18 pm
by Cloudraker_Fastlane
Ahh man wanted to see Optimus become the new leader seeing as he now possess' the matrix (allspark). Nice nod to the 86 movie though, with matrix on a chain :D. Not a bad episode, but hope theres a season 4- Hasbro did say that animated belongs to CN so I hope they decide to carry animated on PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE CN!!!! poor Prowl :sad: :sad:

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:12 pm
by FracturedKoi
Noshrok Grimskull wrote:By rights, and given their (presumably close) proximity to Sumdac Tower during the final moments of the fight, the Dinobots, the Constructicons and Wreck-Gar should all have suffered the same fate as Starscream...


True, this may be, but rememeber...Prowl did say that they didn't have the power to pull together every allspark fragment. I think the StarScream clones, WreckGar, the Dinobots, and Constructicons are still online.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 1:24 pm
by DARKAGEIS
if theres no season 4 i might cry, that aside the dinobots werent brought online by the fragments they were a freak accident with the key and ratchets magnets.

hopefully i wasnt the only dissapointed by the lack of said dino's in this ep, would have bit that hard to show them attacking megatron?

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 2:04 pm
by Dead Metal
CrabHeart wrote:rodimus is still cosmicly rustified.

Nope, we saw him in the crowed during Sentinel becoming Magnus.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 6:28 pm
by Skullgrin140
You know, now that I think about it. I was really expecting Optimus to say "So this is what it feels like to be a hero" at the end of the ep, because it prooved that Optimus managed to live up to it.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:04 pm
by Burning Saber
CrabHeart wrote:black arachnia is still alive.
waspinator is pulling himself together.
oilslick and strika are still running around in space.
blitzwing is somewhere?
we dont know exactly where sari came from.
rodimus is still cosmicly rustified.
dinobots are still on dinobot island.
blurrs spark is still online but he hasnt been put back together yet.
the starscream clones
wreck gar
and the constructicons.

just things to think about!


Unfortunatly, most of these plotlines can be wraped up with endgame, though not really all that satisfactorily.
Black Arachnia is alive, but her subplot was, essentially wrapped with Sentinal's proclimation that Elita 1 was dead to him
Waspinator is with Blackarachnia, and both are probably plotting revenge or whatnaught
Strika's group is still out there as are many other Decepticon cells
Blitzwing is in lockup, Megatron, Lugnut and Shockwave will keep him company soon
Sari came from a protoform, why she was meant to follow the Autobots to Cybertron does need resolving and probably would have been Season 4
Rodimus' fate wasn't central to the story, though it does suck not seeing his group again, would have been nice to see both those groups in endgame
Honestly, what more is there to the Dinobots then them being on the island
Blurr is dead. I'm comfortable with that conclusion
The Starscream clones are still out there, carring on the legacy, maybe they'll hook up with other Decepticon cells and try to overthrough their leaders.
Wreck Gar is around
The constructicons got blown up good, though seeing Scrapper again is more confusing

Truthfully, Endgame can be looked upon as a series finale, though not an overly satisfying one. The only major plotlines that I think still need to be followed up on are Sari's origins and Ultra Magnus' fate. And certainly the fallout between Optimus and Sntinal should still be delt with. But as I have said in another thread, given all we know at the moment,I think Animated is done. Engame is what we're left with. It does satisfy somewhat, but i agree that hopefully CN carries the show on for season 4 or at least they do a followup movie or something.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:56 pm
by CrabHeart
Blurr isnt dead. i remmber seeing something from derick wyatts blog showing the compacted block of blurr. but he pointed out that you could see a spark glowing in the crack.

besides he didnt turn grey. :P

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 4:30 am
by Burning Saber
CrabHeart wrote:Blurr isnt dead. i remmber seeing something from derick wyatts blog showing the compacted block of blurr. but he pointed out that you could see a spark glowing in the crack.

besides he didnt turn grey. :P


He got crushed into a cube.

He's dead.

I'm comfortable with that. :wink:

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:32 am
by mitchsantona
Burning Saber wrote:
CrabHeart wrote:Blurr isnt dead. i remmber seeing something from derick wyatts blog showing the compacted block of blurr. but he pointed out that you could see a spark glowing in the crack.

besides he didnt turn grey. :P


He got crushed into a cube.

He's dead.

I'm comfortable with that. :wink:


Seems to me like you have to turn grey to be officially dead. Blurr is mutilated but his spark beats on. As confirmed by DW.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:38 am
by Burning Saber
mitchsantona wrote:
Burning Saber wrote:
CrabHeart wrote:Blurr isnt dead. i remmber seeing something from derick wyatts blog showing the compacted block of blurr. but he pointed out that you could see a spark glowing in the crack.

besides he didnt turn grey. :P


He got crushed into a cube.

He's dead.

I'm comfortable with that. :wink:


Seems to me like you have to turn grey to be officially dead. Blurr is mutilated but his spark beats on. As confirmed by DW.


Truthfully, I was just pointing out that believing Blurr to be dead after the conclusion of Endgame is a fair conclusion with that particular arch. If i remember correctly, DW said he put the spark in the model sheet with the HOPE that he could be revived. Because I believe Animated is done, I will maintain Blurr is dead, and i'm still comfortable with that. :grin:

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:59 am
by Dead Metal
Burning Saber wrote:
mitchsantona wrote:
Burning Saber wrote:
CrabHeart wrote:Blurr isnt dead. i remmber seeing something from derick wyatts blog showing the compacted block of blurr. but he pointed out that you could see a spark glowing in the crack.

besides he didnt turn grey. :P


He got crushed into a cube.

He's dead.

I'm comfortable with that. :wink:


Seems to me like you have to turn grey to be officially dead. Blurr is mutilated but his spark beats on. As confirmed by DW.


Truthfully, I was just pointing out that believing Blurr to be dead after the conclusion of Endgame is a fair conclusion with that particular arch. If i remember correctly, DW said he put the spark in the model sheet with the HOPE that he could be revived. Because I believe Animated is done, I will maintain Blurr is dead, and i'm still comfortable with that. :grin:


He was still alive, but damn he had to be chucked into that incinerator so yea I think he's pretty dead.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 2:04 pm
by mitchsantona
Blurr is probably more alive than Animated is right now. I hope that isn't true but we'll see I guess. :sad:

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 8:58 pm
by Duke of Luns
Adding to the list:

-The final fate of Metldown. He was shown to still be alive,albeit as liquified sludge, at the end of "Black Friday".

-Soundwave's still on the loose, as well as Laserbeak.

-There are still numerous All-Spark fragments all over Earth.

-Thundercracker and Skywarp are still in space somewhere right? Femscreamer is on the loose too.

Plus, there are still so many stories left that can be told before jumping the shark. I hope Animated isn't dead, turned out to be a winner, best series since Beast Machines, no question.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:32 am
by i_amtrunks
FracturedKoi wrote:
Noshrok Grimskull wrote:By rights, and given their (presumably close) proximity to Sumdac Tower during the final moments of the fight, the Dinobots, the Constructicons and Wreck-Gar should all have suffered the same fate as Starscream...


True, this may be, but rememeber...Prowl did say that they didn't have the power to pull together every allspark fragment. I think the StarScream clones, WreckGar, the Dinobots, and Constructicons are still online.


Or it could even be rectified if the series continues that prowl elected not to destroy those characters (or some were too far away, like the clones in space) to regain the allspark fragments. Could also be that Wreckgar, the Constructicons and Clones are all real transformers, as they absorbed the Allspark, as opposed to Starscream who seemed to be mroe of a Zombie.

If the series returns, hopefully this episode is left as is, and the focus switches to the Autobots fighting the remaining Decepticon cells, with a galactic focus, rather than an Earth based focus. Would allow more screentime for some of the very minor players, and would allow for a few more seasons worth of stories.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 4:33 am
by Overloaded
The Dinobots were not created by the all aprk fragements they were created by the they key BB stingers and Ratchets electromagnatisum . I could be wrong but they and Soundwave were created before the All spark was smashed

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:16 am
by cybercat
I believe Longarm/Shockwave only told the 'bot to 'dispose' of sensitive block of Blurr. That's no guarantee that it meant incineration. Anyone seen _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ for heaven's sake? So my vote is that Blurr's still alive, but ouchie. And I'm okay with him being dead, but also okay with him being ouchie.

I'm still sad Starscream's dead. :sad:

Having turned this season into a drinking game every time someone mentioned 'uprisings on the rim of the galaxy' (try it: you'll get hammered) that's my personal pick for a continuation. Poor Blackout got what? ONE line? He needs more.

Jails can be broken out of, so I'm hoping for a Decepticon jail break. After all, without his 'favorite customer' I suspect Swindle to run short of cash and maybe jink things up so he gets back in business.

And what about a Lockdown spinoff!?

HK, fan fic is calling yoooooooooooooo

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 7:49 am
by Diem
i_amtrunks wrote: Could also be that Wreckgar, the Constructicons and Clones are all real transformers, as they absorbed the Allspark, as opposed to Starscream who seemed to be mroe of a Zombie.

There's a notable difference between Starscream and the others; his spark chamber was explicitly stated to be empty after he was killed by Megatron, the fragment was the only thing keeping him alive. As for the others, it might be assumed that the Allspark fragments granted them sparks, and so if the fragment was removed their sparks remain.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:14 am
by Overloaded
Diem wrote:
i_amtrunks wrote: Could also be that Wreckgar, the Constructicons and Clones are all real transformers, as they absorbed the Allspark, as opposed to Starscream who seemed to be mroe of a Zombie.

There's a notable difference between Starscream and the others; his spark chamber was explicitly stated to be empty after he was killed by Megatron, the fragment was the only thing keeping him alive. As for the others, it might be assumed that the Allspark fragments granted them sparks, and so if the fragment was removed their sparks remain.


Wouldnt starscreams new body have a spark to keep him alive

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:32 am
by Diem
Overloaded wrote:
Diem wrote:
i_amtrunks wrote: Could also be that Wreckgar, the Constructicons and Clones are all real transformers, as they absorbed the Allspark, as opposed to Starscream who seemed to be mroe of a Zombie.

There's a notable difference between Starscream and the others; his spark chamber was explicitly stated to be empty after he was killed by Megatron, the fragment was the only thing keeping him alive. As for the others, it might be assumed that the Allspark fragments granted them sparks, and so if the fragment was removed their sparks remain.


Wouldnt starscreams new body have a spark to keep him alive

Not necessarily. Starscream's clone bodies were designed to work with Allspark fragments, not with sparks. Not all protoforms have sparks it seems: the Lugnut Supremes didn't seem to have any, and nor did the protoform Prowl put Yoketron's spark into. So the body that Starscream took is probably sparkless.

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 3:16 pm
by Overloaded

Re: things left untold in animated

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 10:31 pm
by CrabHeart
animated is the only transformers seires funded by hasbro made by a true fan! not just to sell toys!