The Energon Pub

Posted: **Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:40 pm**

Can I Ask you people a question? Doesn't anyone else find Transformers Animated the worst Transformers tv series the worst cartoon series ever? If Transformers- Prime is more of the same, I will cease to watch any new transformers tv shows, and will stop at once supporting the hasbro cartoon branch. They should just do what they've done for the past seasons (Transformers R.I.D.- Transformers Cybertron), and stick with computer animated graphics. Or we could be looking at the sell-out of the Transformers Tv show.

Stig

Posted: **Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:23 pm**

I think Transformers: Animated is some of the best-written TF fiction I've seen, actually. I can only hope TF: Prime has the same writing quality!

Posted: **Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:28 pm**

No. I find Transformers Animated not only THE greatest Transformers series ever, but THE greatest single TV show ever.

Posted: **Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:53 pm**

I disagree. Random Blitzwing alone makes Animated one of my favorite things ever. "Ooh, I want to see him turn into a fire truck! Can I? Can I?! HUH?! HUH!? CAN I?!? AHAHAHAAAAHAHA" :lol:

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:12 am**

I find it a hell of a lot more tolerable than the kids from RID, Armada and Cybertron. Not to mention the abosulte debacle that was Beast Machines.

The writing is clever, with lots of little nods to G1, and while the animation is different, I dont' think it over powers the story line. I'm of course, no fan of the "human villians" or Sari, but then the humans in TF have never been strong, remember Astoria? That humanoid that could turn into a fish?

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:45 am**

Did you actually watch it? It was the best show since Beast Wars, and for once it didn't feel like half of each episode was a toy commercial with CG transformation booklets.

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:25 am**

Could this be trollery?

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:36 am**

Diem wrote:Could this be trollery?

Ay I bet he is.

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:49 am**

Dead Metal wrote:
Diem wrote:Could this be trollery?

Ay I bet he is.

I figured it was either a troll or one of those folks who doesn't like Animated based solely on the art.

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:28 am**

I thought Animated was OK but only after the first season (season 1 was weak) seasons 2 and 3 were better, but the overuse of in-jokes and past TF referneces in season 3 was annoying.

But as far as I'm concerned Beast Machines is still the greatest TF series of all time.

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:55 pm**

Cyberstrike wrote:But as far as I'm concerned Beast Machines is still the greatest TF series of all time.

Hell yeah, boy! Watching Beast Machines on Youtube is what got me back into Transformers last year! I love that series.

Regarding TFA, I HATED IT HATED IT initially. The art just infuriated me I thought it was so bad. But, I finally caved in and started watching it from the beginning. It's pretty good! Sari's really cute, probably the best TF "human" to date other than Spike. Blitzwing's friggin' cool too!

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:42 pm**

A troll, plain and simple. It was his first post, and his only post, and all it did was make a dig towards Animated.

If that doesn't scream "Desperate Troll!", nothing will.

Posted: **Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:36 am**

Well, while I like other cartoons better(The Last Airbender, Ben 10)...TFA is still a very good series, the ONLY reason I could see anyone not liking it is the art. And even with that I grew to love it(and the art).

There is also no way Energon was better, THAT(or RiD...I hated RiD and I was only like 7) was the worst TransFormers series....

On a side note:Really disliked Beast Machines...

Posted: **Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:45 pm**

Cyberstrike wrote:I thought Animated was OK but only after the first season (season 1 was weak) seasons 2 and 3 were better, but the overuse of in-jokes and past TF referneces in season 3 was annoying.

But as far as I'm concerned Beast Machines is still the greatest TF series of all time.

Quoted to give this comment a frame of reference, cartoon-wsie, I agree with you on Beast Machines. That was a truly great show, and one that will probably end up being more polarizing than Animated when it's all said and done. People either really hate it or really love it, and there isn't the middle ground of it being ok like Animated has. Not everyone loves/hates Animated.

I didn't care for Animated. I thought it was a cool idea storywise mainly because it wasn't Optimus as super-Prime, and I liked that he was a cog in the machine as opposed to the do-it-all bot he always has been. But I really didn't like the art, and I thought the Autobots chasing human baddies around was really, really lame. I know cartoons are intended for children, but since I still watch cartoons, I don't find it out of the realm of comprehension that I should find something I like as well, and Animated just wasn't it. I wanted to like it, because I want to like most things TF related as a fan,but I didn't like Animated. All told, I think it was a step in the right direction after A/E/C in that is was more cartoon-y and less anime-y, but I just didn't find enough to like about it.
But the death of television as we know it? I highly doubt it. If you think that's true, you must not be aware of the fact that there's apparently a Jersey Shore knock-off show out there. That's the death of TV as we know it.

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:09 am**

My friend, TV has been dead for a loong time...
I joke! But honestly, I don't think Animated was garbage, far from it. I think it was pretty ambitious in it's storytelling, and finally made some human characters that I wanted to see (sometimes). My biggest issue with the show would be some of the voice work.

I thought Tom Kenny did a pretty solid job as Starscream, but all I could think to myself was, "angry spongebob." the whole time. Maybe it's just me. His lines were great though! Very true to character!

But in the end, Animated was pretty solid, it's nowhere near as good as the classic G1, or Beast Wars, but it wasn't a debacle. The animation is weird, but if you watch it for awhile, you kinda get used to it. And it isn't as bad as Energon in my opinion, which was painful to watch. The movements were sooo stiff, I felt like I was watching a kid play with action figures! And I don't mean that in a good way!

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:36 am**

I didn't like animated, I hope for a series more like Victory or masterforce!

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:53 am**

stig wrote:Can I Ask you people a question? Doesn't anyone else find Transformers Animated the worst Transformers tv series the worst cartoon series ever? If Transformers- Prime is more of the same, I will cease to watch any new transformers tv shows, and will stop at once supporting the hasbro cartoon branch. They should just do what they've done for the past seasons (Transformers R.I.D.- Transformers Cybertron), and stick with computer animated graphics. Or we could be looking at the sell-out of the Transformers Tv show.

Stig

While I must welcome you to Seibertron, (as no one else has) and commend you on using His Royal Stigness for your user name. I completely disagree with your post, and for thus I will not provide the standardized greeting for new members.

I personally enjoyed Animated, and was pleased to have an original North American designed show tailored for a western audience and filled with tons of nods to fans from every generation of Transformers rather than another poorly rewritten translation of series designed for a Japanese audience. Now if you honestly hated Animated (which is your opinion and by all rights it's yours to have) and you were happier with the half-assed re-writes of Car Robots, Micron Legend, Super Link and Galaxy Force, then I find it quite unlikely you will be a fan of Prime.

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:56 am**

Editor wrote:Now if you honestly hated Animated (which is your opinion and by all rights it's yours to have) and you were happier with the half-assed re-writes of Car Robots, Micron Legend, Super Link and Galaxy Force, then I find it quite unlikely you will be a fan of Prime.

Or anything else of quality.

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:40 am**

Autobot032 wrote:
Editor wrote:Now if you honestly hated Animated (which is your opinion and by all rights it's yours to have) and you were happier with the half-assed re-writes of Car Robots, Micron Legend, Super Link and Galaxy Force, then I find it quite unlikely you will be a fan of Prime.

Or anything else of quality.

I actually enjoyed both RiD and Cybertron, but I do have a very high tackiness tolerance.

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:17 am**

Quality is also an individual's personal opinion.

Just because one person thinks a show is a good quality, doesn't mean it is.

Likewise, because one person may think a show is utter garbage, doesn't mean it is.

And I also think we should lay off the troll comments. This person may have in fact be genuine, they chose to make this their first post and maybe they could have worded it better, again, personal preference, but the way others have reacted is nothing to be proud of.

Don't agree with something someone says? Then as it says in the forum rules, disagree in a decent way, don't attack a person over it.

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:30 am**

Burn wrote:Quality is also an individual's personal opinion.

Just because one person thinks a show is a good quality, doesn't mean it is.

Likewise, because one person may think a show is utter garbage, doesn't mean it is.

And I also think we should lay off the troll comments. This person may have in fact be genuine, they chose to make this their first post and maybe they could have worded it better, again, personal preference, but the way others have reacted is nothing to be proud of.

Don't agree with something someone says? Then as it says in the forum rules, disagree in a decent way, don't attack a person over it.

To be fair, yes, this person might be real.

However, considering this is the first and only post of Stig's so far, and we've seen hide nor hair of this person since...doesn't that lend credence to the troll theory?

I know I'm not the only one to consider Stig's post to be a prime example of trollish behavior, and I'd hope even you can see that it's highly possible it's a troll tactic.

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:52 am**

stig wrote:CIf Transformers- Prime is more of the same, I will cease to watch any new transformers tv shows, and will stop at once supporting the hasbro cartoon branch.

No you won't.

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:04 am**

Lol
"Some say he like to troll internet forums."

All we know is, ....

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:53 am**

Dead Metal wrote:Lol
"Some say he like to troll internet forums."

All we know is, ....

Bwahahahaha :BOWDOWN:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIud3a467Vg[/youtube]

Posted: **Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:15 pm**

Editor wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Lol
"Some say he like to troll internet forums."

All we know is, ....

Bwahahahaha

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIud3a467Vg[/youtube]

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