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Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:13 pm
by MightyMagnus78
This is one of the things that always bugged me about the '86 movie, why the hell didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron with his arm cannons?
He already used them earlier in the film to take down the space cruiser, and later he uses them against the giant robot squid on Quintessa and against Galvatron in the final battle scene, so why not use them against Megs?
It makes no sense! Hot Rod chose the completely wrong option and as direct result Prime dies. Nice one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZolJxbJk-gSo, has anyone got any good theories on this?
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:46 pm
by Chaoslock
In the early script, the scene is different: the autobots stand around Megatron and Optimus while they fight - like in the episode "Heavy Metal War" and Hot Rod sees Megatron reach for the gun, then tries to grapple with Megatron, and tries to grab the gun before him. Since in the script a lot of weapons were not specified, it can be assumed they didn't think about it in-production after the script was finished.
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:00 pm
by MightyMagnus78
Chaoslock wrote:In the early script, the scene is different: the autobots stand around Megatron and Optimus while they fight - like in the episode "Heavy Metal War" and Hot Rod sees Megatron reach for the gun, then tries to grapple with Megatron, and tries to grab the gun before him. Since in the script a lot of weapons were not specified, it can be assumed they didn't think about it in-production after the script was finished.
That certainly does make sense. I wonder why they didn't think about the continuity error at the time?
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:16 pm
by Didicos
Because Optimus(and many others) had to die one way or another. Hasbro had a dozen of new toys which needed to be promoted and sold. Unfortunately, this is the only reason Optimus died. It could be anyone in Hot Rod's place...
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:05 pm
by Stormwolf
Yep, the script was way too careless with killing all the old toys.
A pitty really, they could have done so much more with the characters.
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:46 pm
by fenrir72
Authorial intent and Hasbro wanted to kill off all the G1 character to make way for the next gen figures. Check the interview in the DVD by Bacal and the other producer (except they(and mostly Hasbro) didn't realize that Optimus has become such an iconic character that.........well the rest is history).
P.S. Hotrod wasn't known as a sharp shooter or sniper so I don't think he could have shot the gun off Meg's hand.
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:57 am
by Name_Violation
Hotrod was a secret decepticon sleeper agent, sent to ensure the death of prime.
Think about it, the first time we see him is right before primes death. With out his interference prime would have survived and defeated megatron. Well in theory anyway, primes suicidal tendency's not withstanding. (Seriously, can we get suicide prevention hotline on speed dial for him?)
Once hotrod touched the matrix it corrupted the con programing, turning him all emo and angst filled.
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:01 am
by Sabrblade
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:34 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
He's a hotheaded idiot who wanted to show off in front of Optimus.
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:30 pm
by Kyrotron
MightyMagnus78 wrote:This is one of the things that always bugged me about the '86 movie, why the hell didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron with his arm cannons?
He already used them earlier in the film to take down the space cruiser, and later he uses them against the giant robot squid on Quintessa and against Galvatron in the final battle scene, so why not use them against Megs?
It makes no sense! Hot Rod chose the completely wrong option and as direct result Prime dies. Nice one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZolJxbJk-gSo, has anyone got any good theories on this?
Because that's just too darn easy.
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:41 am
by sto_vo_kor_2000
MightyMagnus78 wrote:This is one of the things that always bugged me about the '86 movie, why the hell didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron with his arm cannons?
He already used them earlier in the film to take down the space cruiser, and later he uses them against the giant robot squid on Quintessa and against Galvatron in the final battle scene, so why not use them against Megs?
It makes no sense! Hot Rod chose the completely wrong option and as direct result Prime dies. Nice one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZolJxbJk-gSo, has anyone got any good theories on this?
I have a theroy.
The film implied the battle went on for several hours, maybe even a day.
Could be HotRod didnt have the energy to use his arm cannons.
Also, his aim wasnt al;l that good, missing the ship a few times, maybe he thought the risk of hitting Prime was to great
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:06 pm
by victoryconvoy
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:MightyMagnus78 wrote:This is one of the things that always bugged me about the '86 movie, why the hell didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron with his arm cannons?
He already used them earlier in the film to take down the space cruiser, and later he uses them against the giant robot squid on Quintessa and against Galvatron in the final battle scene, so why not use them against Megs?
It makes no sense! Hot Rod chose the completely wrong option and as direct result Prime dies. Nice one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZolJxbJk-gSo, has anyone got any good theories on this?
I have a theroy.
The film implied the battle went on for several hours, maybe even a day.
Could be HotRod didnt have the energy to use his arm cannons.
Also, his aim wasnt al;l that good, missing the ship a few times, maybe he thought the risk of hitting Prime was to great
have too agree
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

Posted:
Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:25 pm
by DoctorZero986
Because he was a rash, impulsive young Autobot who didn't think.
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:41 pm
by Sabrblade
DoctorZero986 wrote:Because he was a rash, impulsive young Autobot who didn't think.
In other words, Plot Induced Stupidity. That's it.
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:12 pm
by Stormwolf
Sabrblade wrote:DoctorZero986 wrote:Because he was a rash, impulsive young Autobot who didn't think.
In other words, Plot Induced Stupidity. That's it.
This
Re: Why didn't Hot Rod just shoot Megatron?

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Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:10 pm
by DJLazer
so they could have season 3 and 4 if he shot him no more transformers.