The Energon Pub

A lot of hate goes out to the human characters of the many Transformers cartoon and comics series, so I'm now asking about the opposite. Who were the BEST humans characters of the cartoons/comics?

I'd say the following

1. Spike (G1 cartoon/comic)
2. Buster (G1 comic)
3. Sparkplug (G1 cartoon/comic)
4. G.B. Blackrock (G1 comic)
5. Professor Morris (G1 UK comic)
6. Joy Meadows (G1 UK Comic)
7. Agent Fowler (TF Prime cartoon)

My reason is for these picks is that they are all useful characters without getting crowbarred in. Better yet none of them are kids, Spike and Buster both mature as the storyline progresses (both cartoon and comic).

The utter best:
Spider-Man (Nuff said)

But TF originals only:
1.Professor Sumdac (Animated)
2.Verity (old idw)
3.Hunter (old idw)
4.Jimmy Pink (old idw)
5.Jack (Prime)
6.Agent Fowler (Prime)
7.Sari Sumdac (Animated)

Spike and Sparkplug Witwivky, Carly, Chip and Marissa from G1 animated. The first four had technical skills and were useful that way. Marissa simply kicked ass ten ways from Sunday.

I though about doing a topic like that some time ago.

Captain Fanzone(He is funny and overall a good guy and captain.)
Seymour Simmons(I know he is not from a cartoon,but i think he is one of the best.I love his lines:"One man...alone...betrayed by the country that he loves!")
Agent Fowler(He seems to be looking the best to everyone while keeping his cool,being cool and maintainning order)

Dead Metal wrote:The utter best:
Spider-Man (Nuff said)

Sari is the least annoying. Then Fanzone. Both from Animated.

10. Sari Sumdac (she was kinda annoying. Sorry Sly)
9. Isaac Sumdac
7. Coby Hansen (Ah, he could've been done better)
6. Captain Fanzone
5. Buster (from comic)
4. Daniel Witwicky
3. Sam Witwicky (GEEWUNNERS gonna chew this up and spit it on Bay)
2. Older Spike Witwicky (Cartoon)
1. Younger Spike Witwicky (Cartoon and Comics)

My Top Ten, Letterman!

Okay, I see a lot of good guy humans. How about any human villains?

Also, no Colonel Franklin?

Do Godmasters count? If so Ginrai.

Dead Metal wrote:Do Godmasters count? If so Ginrai.

I would most certainly think so! ALL of the main humans from Masterforce awesome.

Dead Metal wrote:Do Godmasters count? If so Ginrai.

I came for this comment. Thank you.

Don't forget Buster and Hydra, two very intentionally creepy guys who both literally gave up their humanity and almost got killed for it.
Com to think of it, Masterforce had the most humans and the best human characters. I'll admit to Animated being pretty good as well. Both series show that humans can be done right.

Doctor Archeville from 'The Ultimate Doom'. I would love to see his backstory, there.

Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.

Except for her creepy younger years.

Sabrblade wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.

Except for her creepy younger years.

KISS Players doesn't count for me. It never counted, doesn't count and never will count. That wasn't Marissa from G1.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.

Except for her creepy younger years.

KISS Players doesn't count for me. It never counted, doesn't count and never will count. That wasn't Marissa from G1.

Your right. It wasn't her from G1 season 3. It was her from FSRLTF2010.


Anyway, I've gotta give credit to Prometheus "Meltdown" Black, being the only intimidating and most lethal human villain of Animated. Still wish we knew of his fate, as, when we last saw him, he wasn't quite dead.

Oh, and the leader of the Protohumans from Beast Wars, who assaulted and disabled a Cyber-Raptor on his own.

And, I know I'm gonna get a lot of flak for saying this, but Kicker for his competence ONLY. Yes, he was a terrible character with a mean-spirited personality, but he was far from useless. And he does remain the only human to ever fight directly against Galvatron one-on-one (and survive). As far as his personality went, he was awful. But watch his fight scenes on mute and he doesn't seem all that bad during those parts.

Sabrblade wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.

Except for her creepy younger years.

KISS Players doesn't count for me. It never counted, doesn't count and never will count. That wasn't Marissa from G1.

Your right. It wasn't her from G1 season 3. It was her from FSRLTF2010.

I don't know what that acronym means. Doesn't matter since using Kiss Players Marissa to compare to her G1 animated self is like using any other Optimus to compare to another Optimus. Same name, different people.

And, I know I'm gonna get a lot of flak for saying this, but Kicker for his competence ONLY. Yes, he was a terrible character with a mean-spirited personality, but he was far from useless. And he does remain the only human to ever fight directly against Galvatron one-on-one (and survive). As far as his personality went, he was awful. But watch his fight scenes on mute and he doesn't seem all that bad during those parts.

There's no way he's worse than those three wastes of protoplasm from BOT.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Also, saying Marissa again. Because she was that awesome.

Except for her creepy younger years.

KISS Players doesn't count for me. It never counted, doesn't count and never will count. That wasn't Marissa from G1.

Your right. It wasn't her from G1 season 3. It was her from FSRLTF2010.

I don't know what that acronym means. Doesn't matter since using Kiss Players Marissa to compare to her G1 animated self is like using any other Optimus to compare to another Optimus. Same name, different people.

"FSRLTF2010" = "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010", A.K.A. the Japanese dub of G1 season 3 that takes place in 2010 instead of 2005-2006.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Doesn't matter since using Kiss Players Marissa to compare to her G1 animated self is like using any other Optimus to compare to another Optimus. Same name, different people.

Using that example, it would be comparing G1 cartoon Optimus Prime to FSRLTF Convoy, his Japanese dub counterpart.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:There's no way he's worse than those three wastes of protoplasm from BOT.

True, but let's stick to the positives, since this is about good human characters as opposed to bad ones.

Couldn't really think of any, but then I remembered Agent Fowler, I find him too funny not to list, none of the other humans I know of ever really interested me.

no love for Ms Josie Beller, aka Circuit Breaker

Always thought she was kick ass

shamone wrote:no love for Ms Josie Beller, aka Circuit Breaker

Always thought she was kick ass

She suffers the same stereotypical Marvel stupidity of not begin able to tell good from evil.

Though, she did fry Unicron.

Mine from each series:
G1: So many to pick from... I'd have to say Doctor Archeavil
BW - Leader Naethandral
BM - none
RID - Kelly
Armada - Rad's dad
Energon - Dr. Jones
Cybertron - Col. Franklin
Animated - Meltdown
Prime - Silas

Sabrblade wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:There's no way he's worse than those three wastes of protoplasm from BOT.

True, but let's stick to the positives, since this is about good human characters as opposed to bad ones.

I am being positive. I'm positive he's a better character.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:There's no way he's worse than those three wastes of protoplasm from BOT.

True, but let's stick to the positives, since this is about good human characters as opposed to bad ones.

I am being positive. I'm positive he's a better character.

I meant in regards to Tweedledum, Tweedledummer, and Tweedledork from B.O.T. (And yet I just now make that remark myself ).

Ah, forget it.

Anyway, how 'bout some love for Lord Giga and Lady Mega? These two were the only human Earth-born Decepticon Commanders and they were awesome. I especially iked how they weren't truly malevolent humans (Hydra and Buster filled that role perfectly enough), but were only loyal to Devil Z out of honor and duty. They had a respect for their comrades, and later Ginrai, whom they (or at least Giga) viewed as a worthy and honorable rival and adversary to face. They also show genuine care and concern for the other Decepticons, as though they were all a family: A family of outcasts brought together from uncaring societies. And, despite their devout loyalty to Devil Z, even they deemed his transition from wanting to conquer humanity to wanting to destroy humanity immoral and did their best to sway their master without opening trying to betray him. In the end, however, their master's word was law and they payed with their lives, even in spite of their being saved by Ginrai in the end (they died in his arms).

Honestly!!!!!!

All of Buster's girl friends in the marvel G-1 comics. because of the way they were drawn so curvy. my favorite is the buster girlfriend that actually got involved in the plot & went diving in the water with a seacon infested waters.

deathy wrote:Honestly!!!!!!

All of Buster's girl friends in the marvel G-1 comics. because of the way they were drawn so curvy. my favorite is the buster girlfriend that actually got involved in the plot & went diving in the water with a seacon infested waters.

That's all one person. Buster only ever had one girlfriend throughout the Marvel G1 comic run: Jesse.