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I hope Cartoon Network sees this thread

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:36 am
by ranger
I don't care, I hate the look of this new Transformers Cartoon. Anyone else?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:03 pm
by Tigertrack
I want to see and hear it in action before I just give it the 'ol kick in the @$$, but I did hear the transforming was going to be tasmanian devil style spinning to the new mode, which didn't help my thoughts.

Still it has Prowl as a character, so I'm willing to give it a chance... :grin:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:56 pm
by Magnimus
As a CEO of CN, I can say that I have read this thread and we are pulling the show off the air and scrapping development just for you. Also, you really hurt our feelings. :(

(disclaimer: I have nothing whatsoever to do with CN)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:15 pm
by ranger
Magnimus wrote:As a CEO of CN, I can say that I have read this thread and we are pulling the show off the air and scrapping development just for you. Also, you really hurt our feelings. :(

(disclaimer: I have nothing whatsoever to do with CN)


I just don't understand why they went withthis type of Animations, it stinks

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:39 pm
by Zombie Starscream
ranger wrote:
Magnimus wrote:As a CEO of CN, I can say that I have read this thread and we are pulling the show off the air and scrapping development just for you. Also, you really hurt our feelings. :(

(disclaimer: I have nothing whatsoever to do with CN)


I just don't understand why they went withthis type of Animations, it stinks
They thought it would be "new and kewl." I wonder what the 'cons look like....

What I wonder is, with a bunch of Tf fans over the age of 15, why don't they just make a cartoon for those folks? Why is it only for the kiddies? Or at least make it for the older kiddies. AT LEAST ONE SHOW. Come on Cartoon Network, throw us a bone here!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:04 pm
by Magnimus
ranger wrote:
Magnimus wrote:As a CEO of CN, I can say that I have read this thread and we are pulling the show off the air and scrapping development just for you. Also, you really hurt our feelings. :(

(disclaimer: I have nothing whatsoever to do with CN)


I just don't understand why they went withthis type of Animations, it stinks


But you haven't seen the animation! Only static character designs. Just because the style is different doesn't mean the animation will stink.

I remember my Dad talking about G1 Transformers, and later anime, when I was kid. He grew up with Disney and Warner Bros-style American animation, so to him that's what a "good cartoon" was. He hated Transformers because the style was different to what he was used to.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:01 pm
by Necessary Evil
This new Transformer cartoon couldn't be that bad. Just look at Energon and Cybertron.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:21 am
by Emperor Primacron the 1st
tigertracks 24 wrote:I want to see and hear it in action before I just give it the 'ol kick in the @$$, but I did hear the transforming was going to be tasmanian devil style spinning to the new mode, which didn't help my thoughts.

Still it has Prowl as a character, so I'm willing to give it a chance... :grin:


Optimus: Why for you bury me in the cold, cold ground? :-P

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:03 pm
by Predaprince
ranger wrote:
Magnimus wrote:As a CEO of CN, I can say that I have read this thread and we are pulling the show off the air and scrapping development just for you. Also, you really hurt our feelings. :(

(disclaimer: I have nothing whatsoever to do with CN)


I just don't understand why they went withthis type of Animations, it stinks


Because it is business.

The animators who animate in this style already work for them in other cartoons, so they don't have to hire someone new and be paying more people, instead they just give the workers they have a few cents more each hour and save a whole lot from their profit.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:05 pm
by RatchetMD
Wait until you see it in motion to judge it. I'm not crazy about the look either, but I'm willing to give it a chance.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:38 pm
by MaikeruSama
you now what i think all of the "fans" are being bitches. I hope after this they just completely drop transformers non of it made ver again. then see how you douches like it. Mods quote me i dont care its not going to change my opinion.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:55 pm
by Nico
tigertracks 24 wrote:but I did hear the transforming was going to be tasmanian devil style spinning to the new mode


AAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!
Ok, Transformer is dead to me...
Give me Bayformer!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:40 pm
by Head Shot
MaikeruKun wrote:you now what i think all of the "fans" are being bitches. I hope after this they just completely drop transformers non of it made ver again. then see how you douches like it. Mods quote me i dont care its not going to change my opinion.
incase you didn't notice, you happen to be one of those "bitches" simply for bitchign about everyone else's bitching. Quite frankly your comment doesnt help the situation at all and infact helps add fuel to the fire.

As for everyone's complaints, while i generally can see what they are upset with (i too share some of their feelings), however, I have become open minded especially after talking with the design team, and listening to the panel at botcon on sunday. I think this show will be good, as long as the decepticons dont take too much of a back seat to the human villains. With what they've planned for the story, characters, and even personalities, it really looks like we're getting a slightly larger dose of g1 influences than we've had since beast wars season 2 and 3. Granted I'm not fond of the "teen titans" art style, but with whats been said about the show, I think I can put ym differences aside with the art style and accept the show for what it is offering. Also your wish for the fans to "stop bitching" has pretty much come true now that they have confirmed they will continue classics (but under a new name).

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:02 pm
by MaikeruSama
Head Shot wrote:
MaikeruKun wrote:you now what i think all of the "fans" are being bitches. I hope after this they just completely drop transformers non of it made ver again. then see how you douches like it. Mods quote me i dont care its not going to change my opinion.
incase you didn't notice, you happen to be one of those "bitches" simply for bitchign about everyone else's bitching. Quite frankly your comment doesnt help the situation at all and infact helps add fuel to the fire.

As for everyone's complaints, while i generally can see what they are upset with (i too share some of their feelings), however, I have become open minded especially after talking with the design team, and listening to the panel at botcon on sunday. I think this show will be good, as long as the decepticons dont take too much of a back seat to the human villains. With what they've planned for the story, characters, and even personalities, it really looks like we're getting a slightly larger dose of g1 influences than we've had since beast wars season 2 and 3. Granted I'm not fond of the "teen titans" art style, but with whats been said about the show, I think I can put ym differences aside with the art style and accept the show for what it is offering. Also your wish for the fans to "stop bitching" has pretty much come true now that they have confirmed they will continue classics (but under a new name).


I am not of sound mind right know.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:38 am
by Bonger
MaikeruKun wrote:you now what i think all of the "fans" are being bitches. I hope after this they just completely drop transformers non of it made ver again. then see how you douches like it. Mods quote me i dont care its not going to change my opinion.


Really wouldn't bother me any. I haven't managed to watch anything for more than 10 min since the Japanese ended G1.

I thuink really, what most of us want to see is just a coninuation of G1 in some shape or form. Like pick up the story where it left off after season 4, or spin it in a new direction from season 4.

I mean, I don't see how giving Prime Batman's jaw, or having Tamanian Devil transformetions is at all conducive to a good show.

I'm not too concerned though, theres always next decade. :-P

PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:28 am
by Tigertrack
Bonger wrote:
MaikeruKun wrote:you now what i think all of the "fans" are being bitches. I hope after this they just completely drop transformers non of it made ver again. then see how you douches like it. Mods quote me i dont care its not going to change my opinion.


Really wouldn't bother me any. I haven't managed to watch anything for more than 10 min since the Japanese ended G1.

I thuink really, what most of us want to see is just a coninuation of G1 in some shape or form. Like pick up the story where it left off after season 4, or spin it in a new direction from season 4.

I mean, I don't see how giving Prime Batman's jaw, or having Tamanian Devil transformetions is at all conducive to a good show.

I'm not too concerned though, theres always next decade. :-P


I'm ready to give it a chance. Good voice actors, good writing, and good story seem to be in the works, as opposed to the Unicron trilogy, because it was only a dub, so it only had one of the 3, I'll let you figure out which I mean...

I think the animation style will work. We got to see the 'sizzle' and it looked really cool in motion, with the voices... My interest is peaked regardless!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:55 am
by Night~GONE
Bonger wrote:
MaikeruKun wrote:you now what i think all of the "fans" are being bitches. I hope after this they just completely drop transformers non of it made ver again. then see how you douches like it. Mods quote me i dont care its not going to change my opinion.


Really wouldn't bother me any. I haven't managed to watch anything for more than 10 min since the Japanese ended G1.

I thuink really, what most of us want to see is just a coninuation of G1 in some shape or form. Like pick up the story where it left off after season 4, or spin it in a new direction from season 4.

I mean, I don't see how giving Prime Batman's jaw, or having Tamanian Devil transformetions is at all conducive to a good show.

I'm not too concerned though, theres always next decade. :-P

I dont think g1 will ever be back i guess thats why they canceled it. Also did you know they actually transform they said they were just going to use the tasmanian devil transformations sometimes to speed up the action. Or was it only one of the transformers transforms in that style. Anyways i dont see a problem becuase if a remembered correctly. If statement 1 was rememered correctly that would be ok becuase we still get to see there real transformation somtimes. If i was right in statement 2 well then thats ok i can live with out seeing one of there transformations.Also prime dosent have batmans jaw he has a heros jaw most super heros have a large jaw. and from different angles his jaw isnt really that big. I would say give this serries a try I was at botcon and saw what they had to offer and what i saw was very similar to g1 but of how i could tell it it match up more with beastwars type story. But anyways have a nice day :grin:

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:40 am
by *Elita_One*
tigertracks 24 wrote:I want to see and hear it in action before I just give it the 'ol kick in the @$$, but I did hear the transforming was going to be tasmanian devil style spinning to the new mode, which didn't help my thoughts.

Still it has Prowl as a character, so I'm willing to give it a chance... :grin:


What? That sounds stupid. That right there makes me not want to give it a chance.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:00 am
by Tigertrack
*Elita_One* wrote:
What? That sounds stupid. That right there makes me not want to give it a chance.


It's not as bad as it sounds... :D

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:27 am
by Me_Grimlock_King
Predaprince wrote:
ranger wrote:
Magnimus wrote:As a CEO of CN, I can say that I have read this thread and we are pulling the show off the air and scrapping development just for you. Also, you really hurt our feelings. :(

(disclaimer: I have nothing whatsoever to do with CN)


I just don't understand why they went withthis type of Animations, it stinks


Because it is business.

The animators who animate in this style already work for them in other cartoons, so they don't have to hire someone new and be paying more people, instead they just give the workers they have a few cents more each hour and save a whole lot from their profit.


Good point. I think it's also that this style has worked really well for them in the past...even on well-established franchises like Star Wars. Regardless of how we all feel about it (I, for one, think it probably won't translate well to TF...and I'm saddended to hear the Autobots will be fighting more human opponents), you know ALL of us will sit down to watch the 90min pilot.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:25 pm
by Burnup Prime
ZeroZero wrote:This new Transformer cartoon couldn't be that bad. Just look at Energon and Cybertron.


DON'T EVEN go there. those were two of the best series ever to me, way better than super cruddy G1

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:43 pm
by *Elita_One*
tigertracks 24 wrote:
*Elita_One* wrote:
What? That sounds stupid. That right there makes me not want to give it a chance.


It's not as bad as it sounds... :D


How good could it be? Maybe I am picturing it wrong in my head but I have one awful image. :shock:

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:13 pm
by Tigertrack
*Elita_One* wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:
*Elita_One* wrote:
What? That sounds stupid. That right there makes me not want to give it a chance.


It's not as bad as it sounds... :D


How good could it be? Maybe I am picturing it wrong in my head but I have one awful image. :shock:


Not all characters do it, we saw it happen once with Prime in 'the sizzle' at Botcon, they said it is not supposed to be an ongoing thing, just sometimes with this character (who did transform normally too). The other transformations we saw were fluid in cartoon, and not stock footage power ups or anything...

That's how. :-?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:17 pm
by *Elita_One*
Ohhhh, okay. I was picturing all characters doing it and the image in my head looked really stupid.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:22 pm
by Tigertrack
*Elita_One* wrote:Ohhhh, okay. I was picturing all characters doing it and the image in my head looked really stupid.


Before I saw the animation in action, and only heard the description, that was the same way with me. I was not pleased...