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Posted: **Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:02 pm**

Love the Masterforce homage.

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:16 pm**

Our local Transformers Collector's Club representative, TF_JW was nice enough to stop by the boards and let us know of the new story line accompanying the magazine in 2016.

TF_JW wrote:The TCC Magazine 2016 story line has been announced! "Transformers: Of Masters and Mayhem" takes place after the events of Another Light, as it follows the Classicsverse humans and Autobot Pretenders as they make the most of their new world.

The humans from the Classicverse have had their share of other worldly experiences since the Transformers first arrived in 1984. They have seen the war come and go, they have seen their planet taken from their home universe and transported to another, and then they even found themselves removed from the very planet they had always called home!
It has been five years since that day. The humans now have a new earth, a new home, one that is mostly at peace and one that is free of the Transformers! Or so they think... Next year, exclusively in the pages of the TCC Magazine, an exciting new 36 page story begins with Issue 67. Can the humans every truly be free of the war involving the Transformers, or will they always be at the mercy Of Masters and Mayhem!
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Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:19 pm**

Humans. Meh.

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:35 pm**

They may be getting ready for the (Head) Titan masters figures, and doing their own exclusive versions of these.

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:38 pm**

Transformers definitely needs to focus more on the humans and their plight amid the alien robot war.

.... said nobody ever.

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:52 pm**

Ya'll sneer about humans, yet the popular comic right now is the one with more holomatter avatars than a DeviantArt page.

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:03 pm**

Uh, guys? That's Crossblades, Vroom, and Metalhawk, the Autobot Mega Pretenders, in the upper-left corner, and down at the bottom-left is Spike Witwicky, Headmaster of Fortress Maximus.

The woman at the bottom is Lisa, who was an ally of Spike in Galvatron II's dark alternate future of Marvel G1 issue #67 "Rhythms of Darkness!", so she's the only one in that pic who we know for sure to be a purely human character.

The older guy in the center seems to be someone new, but some think he might be a Decepticon Pretender, like Thunderwing in a new shell or something.

Get a grip, people. >:oP

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:18 pm**

I love how in the comic Bludgeon's swords are some kind of short sword and yet the toy swords look like something Fort Max would use to attck Trypticon with... from the next county...

Query: In this iteration then, does this mean the Targetmaster figs are gonna be humans instead of Nebulans?

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:00 am**

Deathsanras wrote:Transformers definitely needs to focus more on the humans and their plight amid the alien robot war.

.... said nobody ever.

Hey, if they can show me a non-wheelchair-bound post-Marvel G.B. Blackrock who actually does something of interest, I'll be happy.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:16 am**

Sabrblade wrote:Uh, guys? That's Crossblades, Vroom, and Metalhawk, the Autobot Mega Pretenders, in the upper-left corner, and down at the bottom-left is Spike Witwicky, Headmaster of Fortress Maximus.

The woman at the bottom is Lisa, who was an ally of Spike in Galvatron II's dark alternate future of Marvel G1 issue #67 "Rhythms of Darkness!", so she's the only one in that pic who we know for sure to be a purely human character.

The older guy in the center seems to be someone new, but some think he might be a Decepticon Pretender, like Thunderwing in a new shell or something.

Get a grip, people.

Once again, Sabrblade hits them on the mark.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:47 am**

Nice to see that the FSS 4.0 figures are going to get a storyline, though I'm not sure if having the focus on humans was the best choice, mostly in terms of fan reception.

Deathsanras wrote:Transformers definitely needs to focus more on the humans and their plight amid the alien robot war.

.... said nobody ever.

Hey, some human characters have actually been good additions to the show/comic they were in. Particularly in Prime: Agent Fowler in particular was awesome, and MECH were surprisingly menacing for human villains (though I'll admit the last two MECH episodes feel like they were originally intended to be parts of a longer arc that got shortened).

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:39 am**

Randomus wrote:Ya'll sneer about humans, yet the popular comic right now is the one with more holomatter avatars than a DeviantArt page.

I'll just highlight your own word and leave it at that.

Sabrblade wrote:Uh, guys? That's Crossblades, Vroom, and Metalhawk, the Autobot Mega Pretenders, in the upper-left corner, and down at the bottom-left is Spike Witwicky, Headmaster of Fortress Maximus.

The woman at the bottom is Lisa, who was an ally of Spike in Galvatron II's dark alternate future of Marvel G1 issue #67 "Rhythms of Darkness!", so she's the only one in that pic who we know for sure to be a purely human character.

The older guy in the center seems to be someone new, but some think he might be a Decepticon Pretender, like Thunderwing in a new shell or something.

Get a grip, people.

You may have missed the text portion.

The humans from the Classicverse have had their share of other worldly experiences since the Transformers first arrived in 1984. They have seen the war come and go, they have seen their planet taken from their home universe and transported to another, and then they even found themselves removed from the very planet they had always called home!
It has been five years since that day. The humans now have a new earth, a new home, one that is mostly at peace and one that is free of the Transformers! Or so they think... Next year, exclusively in the pages of the TCC Magazine, an exciting new 36 page story begins with Issue 67. Can the humans every truly be free of the war involving the Transformers, or will they always be at the mercy Of Masters and Mayhem!

References to the humans highlighted in comparison to references to the Transformers.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Hey, some human characters have actually been good additions to the show/comic they were in. Particularly in Prime: Agent Fowler in particular was awesome, and MECH were surprisingly menacing for human villains (though I'll admit the last two MECH episodes feel like they were originally intended to be parts of a longer arc that got shortened).

And they were just that - additions. The text portion heavily implies an extensively human-centric arc. If so, this would, like the Movieverse, make the Transformers the "additions".

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:49 am**

Looks like Metalhawk is showing up.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:02 am**

Deathsanras wrote:Transformers definitely needs to focus more on the humans and their plight amid the alien robot war.

That's new one people keep complaining about live action movie series need more bots less humans

.... said nobody ever.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:14 am**

Deathsanras wrote:You may have missed the text portion.

Do you honestly think that the story is actually going to focus on Average Joe nobodies and not the Autobot Humans we see in the poster itself? The poster's even designed as an obvious homage to Masterforce's poster and that was both a human-centric series and one of the movie beloved (by virtually everyone who watched it) TF cartoons of all time.

All the Autobots (and five of the Decepticons) in that poster are humans in some form or another, just like the Autobot Humans in the "Of Masters and Mayhem" poster.

It's even a given in the title "Of Masters and Mayhem". "Masters" as in "Headmasters", "Targetmasters", "Powermasters" etc. And we see three Mega Pretenders there as well.

This story is picking up from the end of "Another Light", so we're going to see what became of the Pretenders, Headmaster Spike, etc., not some random civilians of no importance.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:55 am**

This looks interesting, though what happened to the other autobot pretenders? Also no Overlord?

That man in the middle does have a thunderwingish look to him...

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:16 am**

Deathsanras wrote:
Randomus wrote:Ya'll sneer about humans, yet the popular comic right now is the one with more holomatter avatars than a DeviantArt page.

I'll just highlight your own word and leave it at that.

Okay...but that still isn't thematically different from Pretenders.

ZeroWolf wrote:That man in the middle does have a thunderwingish look to him...

I'm thinking Starscream (minus spiky armor).

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:57 am**

ZeroWolf wrote:This looks interesting, though what happened to the other autobot pretenders? Also no Overlord?

That man in the middle does have a thunderwingish look to him...

Overlord presumably was left behind on the old Earth.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:44 pm**

Humans...yay !!!! :KREMZEEK:

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:45 pm**

Rated X wrote:Humans...yay !!!!

Sarcasm much.

But I do agree with the anti-human sentiment. We come to see the Transformers, not the humans' reaction to the Transformers.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:53 pm**

Deathsanras wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:Hey, some human characters have actually been good additions to the show/comic they were in. Particularly in Prime: Agent Fowler in particular was awesome, and MECH were surprisingly menacing for human villains (though I'll admit the last two MECH episodes feel like they were originally intended to be parts of a longer arc that got shortened).

And they were just that - additions. The text portion heavily implies an extensively human-centric arc. If so, this would, like the Movieverse, make the Transformers the "additions".

That the movieverse humans have gotten as much screen time as they have seems like a secondary problem, with the main problem being that even five minutes is more screen time than it takes for any of the movieverse humans to wear out their welcome.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:26 pm**

Why are people reacting so much? It's focusing on humans as a way of letting us see what it's like for the autobots currently disguised as humans (you know, robots in disguise that old moniker). Sarblade goes our of his way to explain things and people still react like there's going to be no transformers in it.

As for comparisons to the movieverse, come on guys it's almost been ten years since the first one, long enough for everyone to know why it was done the way it was. That and this isn't really the place for that

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:36 pm**

ZeroWolf wrote:Why are people reacting so much? It's focusing on humans as a way of letting us see what it's like for the autobots currently disguised as humans (you know, robots in disguise that old moniker). Sarblade goes our of his way to explain things and people still react like there's going to be no transformers in it.

I realize that, and that's not what I'm complaining about.

As for comparisons to the movieverse, come on guys it's almost been ten years since the first one, long enough for everyone to know why it was done the way it was. That and this isn't really the place for that

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This is more along the lines of what I'm talking about. I just wish that non-Autobot humans didn't have as large roles as they do.

EDIT: Most of the time, I don't like it when humans have main roles, but Fowler is the exception.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 4:21 pm**

Well, as someone who rather likes a lot of the human characters from across the fiction, I'm legit looking forward to this.

And give us some more G1 human figures like how you did Marissa! I want a Spike and Carly, dammit!

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:19 pm**

ZeroWolf wrote:As for comparisons to the movieverse, come on guys it's almost been ten years since the first one, long enough for everyone to know why it was done the way it was. That and this isn't really the place for that

While agree that this probably isn't the place, I do want to say that knowing why something happened does not always make it easier to take.

That said, I agree that the quantity and prevalence of human characters is not, in and of itself, enough to ruin anything. (At the risk of opening another can of worms, I do quite enjoy Rescue Bots, which often gets rather human-centric itself.)

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Well, as someone who rather likes a lot of the human characters from across the fiction, I'm legit looking forward to this.

And give us some more G1 human figures like how you did Marissa! I want a Spike and Carly, dammit!

I like a number of the human characters too, but they're mostly from Animated, Prime, and Rescue Bots. (The RiD2015 humans have thus far disappointed me, and whoever decided not to bring Raf back wasn't using their best judgment.)

I know there's no way in hell it could happen, but the human figure I'd spring for is Agent Fowler. Heck, if they decide to copy a human or two between continuities like they do for bots (including putting bots from later eras, like Bulkhead, in new G1 stuff), I think Agent Fowler would be a natural fit for the storyline described. (Bonus points if he gets another opportunity to tell Starscream where to shove it. Actually, bonus points for that in general.)

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