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Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:16 pm
by prjkt
grimdragon2001 wrote:his name is Heinrad

It's even mentioned in the comic lol

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:34 pm
by Shuttershock
Damn, Heinrad. Appearing in multiple Con-exclusive comics?

The bearings on you.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:42 pm
by SW's SilverHammer
You know i'm surprised that the club hasn't made a Heinrad yet. I know that finding a right figure's a bit difficult, but I don't think people would be too heartbroken if it dosen't look exactly like his original toy, or fictional art.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:24 am
by Sabrblade
I actually bought an original Heinrad from an anime store in the next town across the bay not too long ago.

I like that this is a sort of follow up to the previous "Timeless" story, and that Heinrad is making good on his promise to help Thrustinator once they get this business over with.

With Packrat here being an anomaly that doesn't belong in this post-Beast Wars setting, I gotta wonder if the other four crooks are likewise anomalies as well. I originally just took them to being ordinary dudes who wound up in Axiom Nexus like any ol' Offworlder, but with Packrat introducing the "anomaly" thing in this, it has me curious. :-?

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 1:53 am
by SW's SilverHammer
Sabrblade wrote:I actually bought an original Heinrad from an anime store in the next town across the bay not too long ago.

I like that this is a sort of follow up to the previous "Timeless" story, and that Heinrad is making good on his promise to help Thrustinator once they get this business over with.

With Packrat here being an anomaly that doesn't belong in this post-Beast Wars setting, I gotta wonder if the other four crooks are likewise anomalies as well. I originally just took them to being ordinary dudes who wound up in Axiom Nexus like any ol' Offworlder, but with Packrat introducing the "anomaly" thing in this, it has me curious. :-?


Well if you think about it, for oilmaster it'd play off the fact he was never released, like there's only one of him or something. But for Megatron let me propose an analogy.

Spoilers for a game it's your own fault for not playing for years ago now. Okay so at the end of bioshock infinite; the protagonist Booker DeWitt learns that the antagonist, Zachary Hale, Comstock is infact himself from an alternative timeline that split into multiple after one decision. This decision was to be "born again" in baptism to wash away all the horrible things he'd done. If he went through with it, he'd become the zealous American Exceptionalist Comstock. If he backed out booker would remain the same. Long story somewhat shorter, Elizabeth, Booker's companion and daughter decide to set things right that once went wrong because despite the fact they succeeded, there are still infinite others that died or failed horrifically. To solve this Elizabeth drowns booker as he goes through the baptism to circumvent Comstock, and related timelines from being created, making Booker dying if he is baptized a constant because she's sorta god. Flash forward to the second to last DLC for the game, Burial at Sea. In B@S you learn the booker you've been playing as is infact Comstock, but how could this happen? Well sometime before and during the climax of infinite proper, this Comstock was so ract with guilt after accidentally killing Elizabeth, he flees to an alternate universe to escape his past. Meaning that he was severed from his universe, meaning when booked was drowned at the end of infinite to prevent Comstock from existing, his timeline ceased to exists but because he was completely severed from it, making him anomalous. That's why hard cor noir Elizabeth decided to kill him, because he shouldn't exists. What if the same is true with movie Megatron? Now we all now the movie operate by Saturday morning cartoon logic, the bad guy always loses. What if that was interpreted literally. Think about all the ways Megatron could've died. He could've died on impact arriving on earth. He could've never been found due to some reason and remind in ice. Sector 7 could've destroyed him trying to solve the mysterious nature of him or maybe because man is not meant to have this much power, or something. What if Frenzy died, or sam died, or starscream just gave up and he was never found in the Hoover Dam. What if there were no parts of the allspark left,, or the decipticons never bothered to resurrect him in ROTF. Or maybe he got all of his head blown off instead of most of it at the end. Maybe between movies he just keeled over from his wounds. Anyway, the club bio suggests that this Megatron is one that didn't die at the end of Bark at the Moon, killing prime instead. What then? At thst point he's living on borrowed time, he'll die or get murdered because Saturday morning cartoon logic, the bad guy never wins. So the day comes and this bad enough dude to stop, Megatron named Rodimus comes along and is pretty content on killing him. So the two fight, and at the point it can go a few ways. Rodimus straight guts Megatron and kills him, or Megatron is killed by his doomsday weapon or space bridge or whatever because hubris. What is this is the one Megatron that goes against his nature and lets go into the unknown as the clubs bio suggests, this was the one variation that wasn't killed by the space bridge or whatever and went in at the right time, landing him in the nexus. This is the one Megatron that's not meant to be, he's the only Megatron that didn't lose or get murdered because he cut himself off from his own universe making him an anomaly.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:39 am
by Sabrblade
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well if you think about it, for oilmaster it'd play off the fact he was never released, like there's only one of him or something.
Hmm, I could see it working for the notion of his being unreleased, but the "only one of him" bit might be a bit of a conflict since there's an Oilmaster in both the Japanese G1 cartoon continuity and in the Wing Universe. However, as both were seen with Magnificus (in his e-HOBBY Generations body, no less), it's possible someone could retcon the two Oilmasters (and the two Magnificuses) into being the same as each other, with the JG1 version having dimension-hopped into the Wingsverse or something.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:06 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
Sabrblade wrote:With Packrat here being an anomaly that doesn't belong in this post-Beast Wars setting, I gotta wonder if the other four crooks are likewise anomalies as well. I originally just took them to being ordinary dudes who wound up in Axiom Nexus like any ol' Offworlder, but with Packrat introducing the "anomaly" thing in this, it has me curious. :-?


Megatron definitely is the product of one. Remember his bio? Based on the climatic battle of Dark of the Moon, only with Megatron winning instead of being killed by Optimus?

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 5:48 pm
by Convoy
Heinrad is a pretty rad Transformer! He travels through time, transforms like a morphing tanuki and has bigger balls (scale wise) than Bayverse Devastator!
I grabbed mine from Amazon maybe a yearish ago for a darn good price.
I really like the BW Neo figures. Wish I had more.
The Heinrad depicted in this comic appears to have big wheels on his back.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 5:51 pm
by Sabrblade
Convoy wrote:The Heinrad depicted in this comic appears to have big wheels on his back.
Yep, he's TransTech Heinrad instead of the ordinary BWNeo Heinrad.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 5:55 pm
by SW's SilverHammer
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:With Packrat here being an anomaly that doesn't belong in this post-Beast Wars setting, I gotta wonder if the other four crooks are likewise anomalies as well. I originally just took them to being ordinary dudes who wound up in Axiom Nexus like any ol' Offworlder, but with Packrat introducing the "anomaly" thing in this, it has me curious. :-?


Megatron definitely is the product of one. Remember his bio? Based on the climatic battle of Dark of the Moon, only with Megatron winning instead of being killed by Optimus?

Do people tune out when I start talking about bioshock? I only brought it up because it related in concept to my idea for DOTM megatron in the club fiction.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 5:59 pm
by SW's SilverHammer
Double post.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 7:41 pm
by Convoy
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Do people tune out when I start talking about bioshock? I only brought it up because it related in concept to my idea for DOTM megatron in the club fiction.

I know I did. Sorry.
It was an interesting take but... Transformers.. um...um.
Oh, did I trail off there..?
I guess I did.

Edit: *snip snip*

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 5:36 pm
by SW's SilverHammer
Oh hey so, the club posted a preview of the comic.Check em

Transformers Botcon 2015 "Cybertrons Most Wanted" 3 Page Comic Preview

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:24 pm
by shajaki
Seibertron native SW's SilverHammer has informed us all of a 3 page preview of the 2015 Botcon Box Set Comic! It includes the five new characters from this set, and cameos.... almost everyone else. Plus a certain shrouded fella who has yet to be revealed. Scroll down to see the preview and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your Transformers News!

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Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:34 pm
by Moosey
Not going to BotCon, so I won't be reading the full issue or picking up the figures, but I did like the strongarm appearance in the end, cool to see that character being integrated into other fiction.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:07 pm
by Rated X
Speaking of Funpub related stuff, did anybody mention that 3.0 subscribers are starting to receive Carzap in the mail ? Hoping mine comes tomorrow. I love me some G2. :D

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:38 pm
by Flashwave
Moosey wrote:Not going to BotCon, so I won't be reading the full issue or picking up the figures, but I did like the strongarm appearance in the end, cool to see that character being integrated into other fiction.


Grimlock's in the crowd on page 1, well, two of them, actually. RID and a made-up one?

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:43 pm
by SW's SilverHammer
I'm willing to bet the censored character is General Optimus Prime from Generations Roadbuster.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:48 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
SW's SilverHammer wrote:I'm willing to bet the censored character is General Optimus Prime from Generations Roadbuster.

Eh, I dunno about that one. Remember: Axiom Nexus has no legal Primes or Megatrons, so he probs shouldn't be a police officer. I'm thinking that black redeco of Skids :BOT:

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:03 pm
by SW's SilverHammer
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:I'm willing to bet the censored character is General Optimus Prime from Generations Roadbuster.

Eh, I dunno about that one. Remember: Axiom Nexus has no legal Primes or Megatrons, so he probs shouldn't be a police officer. I'm thinking that black redeco of Skids :BOT:

Well my logic behind it is that a rolling thunder or General OP fits within the military police more than skids. Also it's possible it's not really an Optimus Prime, there isn't to much connection to him being a prime in character outside of name considering that it looks nothing like OP, even in the original figure, and has no known fiction behind it.
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Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:11 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:I'm willing to bet the censored character is General Optimus Prime from Generations Roadbuster.

Eh, I dunno about that one. Remember: Axiom Nexus has no legal Primes or Megatrons, so he probs shouldn't be a police officer. I'm thinking that black redeco of Skids :BOT:

Well my logic behind it is that a rolling thunder or General OP fits within the military police more than skids. Also it's possible it's not really an Optimus Prime, there isn't to much connection to him being a prime in character outside of name considering that it looks nothing like OP, even in the original figure, and has no known fiction behind it.
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At the same time, I feel like it's possible that the Skids guy unlocked all his weapons and that's what gave Battletrap pause there, but you may very well be right :BOT:

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:17 pm
by SW's SilverHammer
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:I'm willing to bet the censored character is General Optimus Prime from Generations Roadbuster.

Eh, I dunno about that one. Remember: Axiom Nexus has no legal Primes or Megatrons, so he probs shouldn't be a police officer. I'm thinking that black redeco of Skids :BOT:

Well my logic behind it is that a rolling thunder or General OP fits within the military police more than skids. Also it's possible it's not really an Optimus Prime, there isn't to much connection to him being a prime in character outside of name considering that it looks nothing like OP, even in the original figure, and has no known fiction behind it.
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At the same time, I feel like it's possible that the Skids guy unlocked all his weapons and that's what gave Battletrap pause there, but you may very well be right :BOT:


Both do have a metric **** ton, which is different from and imperial **** ton mind you, of weapons of their person.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:55 pm
by Railbomb
That gun barrel is most definitely the M16ish gun that the Roadbuster mold has.

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:56 pm
by MaverickPrime
Is that Godzilla-esque Grimlock based on the new Cyber series Grimlock? I remember that design from somewhere, but can't quite point it.
Also, Hailstorm! :D

Re: The Official BotCon/TCC Fiction Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 10:02 pm
by Sabrblade
Rated X wrote:Speaking of Funpub related stuff, did anybody mention that 3.0 subscribers are starting to receive Carzap in the mail ? Hoping mine comes tomorrow. I love me some G2. :D
Once again, wrong thread, X. This is fiction, not toys.