The Energon Pub

patrick.timothy wrote:Alice of rotf, because pretenders are too scary for bayformers
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Creepy right?

Blast Cannon wrote:Why the hell has G1 Wheelie not been mentioned yet?

Blast Cannon wrote:Why the hell has G1 Wheelie not been mentioned yet?

Goldbug2 wrote:My least favorite Beast Wars character was Rat Trap. He always complined about how bad he had it. He hardly contributed in the battles and he was a total as@ to everyone.

shajaki wrote:

Goldbug2 wrote:My least favorite Beast Wars character was Rat Trap. He always complined about how bad he had it. He hardly contributed in the battles and he was a total as@ to everyone.

did you watch beast wars past the first couple episodes? rattrap complained a lot, but he was badass! he was second in command for a reason. most notable heroic moment: single handedly taking down ravage and his ship.

Goldbug2 wrote:That's true. He does become more important as a Maximal in the second haf of the Beast Wars series. But he kind of slips to his old ways in Beast Machines. A little annoying and he has a great deal of difficulty fighting, until he's able to hack into the Cybertonian mainframe.

shajaki wrote:i disagree with the opinions of rattrap. given his physical changes, i think the changes in his character are quite fitting.

try to remember a few key episodes of BW. they feature rattrap showcasing his skills quite fearlessly. "a better mousetrap" had rattrap take on sentinel, the axalons security system, and rose to the occasion. during "the agenda" he single handedly takes down ravage and his ship. not to mention that rattrap had taken command of the maximals in times of great duress.

then the maximals are triumphant and return home, only to be separated, stripped down, and confused. i think this made rattrap regress. recall the beginning of the BW where rattrap had little respect and was downright insubordinate. and when the group find eachother on cybertron after the crash, its as if they didnt remember one another until they were actually seen. so imagine rattrap landing back on cybertron, not only powerless, but with little to no memory of the BW. a regression of his old traits makes perfect sense.

he once again had to find himself, but now had to do so without any of his previous arsenal. being reformatted didnt help much either as he couldnt transform. and even after all that, he learns to transform only to find a robot mode devoid of weapons. which leads to the other doing worse than hating him, they pity him and find him useless. these feeling come to a head in the BM episode titled "the weak component" which i found equally as powerful as "code of hero".

after this, rattrap finds new strengths and abilities which evidently make him cast off his doubt and gain acceptance with the rest of the maximal crew.

to me anyways, thats a powerful amount of character development.

fenrir72 wrote:Design wise, I don't like the Battlechargers. Simply flat useless figs. But then again, back in the 80s, we actually used our imaginations to compensate.

RhA wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Design wise, I don't like the Battlechargers. Simply flat useless figs. But then again, back in the 80s, we actually used our imaginations to compensate.

That's right, you young whippersnappers. We got bricks that became bricks and we liked it that way. Now get off our lawns.

Because I like battlechargers, dagnabbit.