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war within grimlock question

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:32 pm
by shortround
Is this another one of those alternate reality things were the dinobots weren't created on earth. Because I always thought that dinobots were built on earth during the war with megatron, and I thought the constructicons were the ones that migrated to earth to find megatron.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:47 pm
by waaaaghlord
The Dinobots were only created on Earth in the G1 cartoons. Every comic continuity from Marvel through to IDW has had them existing prior to this and from Dreamwave onwards they have been known as Dynobots in their pre Earth forms.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:50 pm
by Sportimus Prime
He looks like a modified WWI Megatron in some ways. Hmmm... :-?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:56 pm
by shortround
O.k. that is not nearly as exciting as hoped but it makes sense.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:39 pm
by waaaaghlord
If you want exciting track down the War Within comics. Easily the best thing to come out of the time that Dreamwave had the license. Spotlight Shockwave is worth a look too for the IDW version of how the Dynos came to be the Dinos, nice tip of the hat to Beast Wars in that one.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:03 pm
by zodconvoy
This should help clear things up.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:06 pm
by Dispensor
That is the cutest Grimlock ever.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:06 pm
by Sportimus Prime
zodconvoy wrote:This should help clear things up.


Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! Now THAT makes sense! Me thank you. :)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:30 pm
by zodconvoy
I was always of the idea that the Dynobots were on the Ark in the forward section. There bodies smashed and destroyed but Wheeljack and Ratchet rebuilt them into the Dinobots. The Ark was frikn' huge and they only show like 3 rooms so it's not so outlandish and it could explain where the new Autobots like Blaster, Warpath and Tracks came from.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:37 pm
by craggy
zodconvoy wrote:I was always of the idea that the Dynobots were on the Ark in the forward section. There bodies smashed and destroyed but Wheeljack and Ratchet rebuilt them into the Dinobots. The Ark was frikn' huge and they only show like 3 rooms so it's not so outlandish and it could explain where the new Autobots like Blaster, Warpath and Tracks came from.


Likewise, Megatron's comments about building the Constuctions in the cartoon, I always took it to be that they were rebuilt and had their personalities installed kinda like how Starscream revived the Combaticons.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:32 pm
by Tramp
waaaaghlord wrote:The Dinobots were only created on Earth in the G1 cartoons. Every comic continuity from Marvel through to IDW has had them existing prior to this and from Dreamwave onwards they have been known as Dynobots in their pre Earth forms.

To add to what waaaaghlord said, Even their toy stechspec bios refer to them having originated on Cybertron; particularly Snarl's bio. It specifically states that he hates the mode he was given when he came to Earth. here is the bio:
An unhappy loner of few words and fewer opinions. Finds joy only in battle. Hates his Dinobot form, longs to return to Cybertron. Large golden plates on spinal assembly are solar collectors... strength increases tenfold in sunlight. Tail can shatter 20 foot concrete cube. Armored hide resists most missiles. Vulnerable to nighttime attacks due to his weaker state. Slow... uncooperative nature hinders others from helping him.


As you can see from Snarl's bio, he was originally from Cybertron, and wishes to return. All of the Dinobots originally came from Cybertron. Also, according to the DW comics, the Dinobots came to Earth after the Ark left. And had, in fact, come following the insecticons in search of the missing Autobots and Decepticons. This is explained in issue #8 of the ongoing series. They landed some time in the prehistoric past while the TransFormers on board the Ark were in stasis lock buried in the mountain side.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:53 pm
by Justicity
Tramp wrote:
waaaaghlord wrote:The Dinobots were only created on Earth in the G1 cartoons. Every comic continuity from Marvel through to IDW has had them existing prior to this and from Dreamwave onwards they have been known as Dynobots in their pre Earth forms.

To add to what waaaaghlord said, Even their toy stechspec bios refer to them having originated on Cybertron; particularly Snarl's bio. It specifically states that he hates the mode he was given when he came to Earth. here is the bio:
An unhappy loner of few words and fewer opinions. Finds joy only in battle. Hates his Dinobot form, longs to return to Cybertron. Large golden plates on spinal assembly are solar collectors... strength increases tenfold in sunlight. Tail can shatter 20 foot concrete cube. Armored hide resists most missiles. Vulnerable to nighttime attacks due to his weaker state. Slow... uncooperative nature hinders others from helping him.


As you can see from Snarl's bio, he was originally from Cybertron, and wishes to return. All of the Dinobots originally came from Cybertron. Also, according to the DW comics, the Dinobots came to Earth after the Ark left. And had, in fact, come following the insecticons in search of the missing Autobots and Decepticons. This is explained in issue #8 of the ongoing series. They landed some time in the prehistoric past while the TransFormers on board the Ark were in stasis lock buried in the mountain side.

Nice, I never knew that. Thanks for the info Tramp.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:50 pm
by i_amtrunks
I always wanted to know what the Dyno stood for in Dynobots...

Dynamic?
Dynamo?
Dynamite?

I know it's just a play on Dinobots, but there could be some semi-decent meanings behind it.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:00 am
by sto_vo_kor_2000
craggy wrote:
zodconvoy wrote:I was always of the idea that the Dynobots were on the Ark in the forward section. There bodies smashed and destroyed but Wheeljack and Ratchet rebuilt them into the Dinobots. The Ark was frikn' huge and they only show like 3 rooms so it's not so outlandish and it could explain where the new Autobots like Blaster, Warpath and Tracks came from.


Likewise, Megatron's comments about building the Constuctions in the cartoon, I always took it to be that they were rebuilt and had their personalities installed kinda like how Starscream revived the Combaticons.


As have i.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:01 am
by sto_vo_kor_2000
craggy wrote:
zodconvoy wrote:I was always of the idea that the Dynobots were on the Ark in the forward section. There bodies smashed and destroyed but Wheeljack and Ratchet rebuilt them into the Dinobots. The Ark was frikn' huge and they only show like 3 rooms so it's not so outlandish and it could explain where the new Autobots like Blaster, Warpath and Tracks came from.


Likewise, Megatron's comments about building the Constuctions in the cartoon, I always took it to be that they were rebuilt and had their personalities installed kinda like how Starscream revived the Combaticons.