The Energon Pub

I never really liked the whole primus is an actual god origin of the tfs so I like many fans created my own origin for the tfs so here it is-

1. Long before the existance of cybertron there existed a world of beings not unlike us in form. This was a technologicaly advanced culture which soon developed self aware AI's these AIs soon controlled manufacturing on the planet designing and building everything their creators needed from weapons of war to consumer products.

2. The AIs decided to create something greater then themselves, they wanted to create true mechanical life and eventually the concept of the Spark was formed a strange mysterious energy from which true mechanical life will spring. To create a spark the AIs constructed the most advanced computer ever, constructed from hard light and named Vector Sigma this computer could create Sparks. Fearing the discovery of their new life form by their biological creators each spark would have the ability to transform. This ability enabled the AIs to create their new life forms and hide them in plain sight amongst the other machines and devices that came from all the manufacturing plants under their control.

3. Eventually the AIs triggered the revealing resulting in a war that left their biological creators defeated, the victors the newly created transformer race left that planet and setteled in a metal rich solar system and began to construct their own homeworld which they called cybertron. The transformers were led by the three prototypes Unicron, Primus and Alpha Trion. After a disagreement in leadership Unicron along with many followers left cybertron to form their own world.

4. Many centuries later Primus received word that unicron had declared war on Cybertron and his newly constructed world was not only mobile but also his new body. Primus knowing that Cybertron could not withstand such brute force came up with a new plan. Primus designed and built a device capable of utilizing matrix energy to perform any task that the user of this device desired, the matrix.

5. Needing to charge the matrix in a hurry Primus gathered all the citizens of Cybertron together and killed them all, the spark energy released charged the matrix which Primus then used to defeat Unicron. Alpha Trion was the only other inhabitant of Cybertron to survive and after realising what Primus had done he retreated into his work deep within cybertron.

6. Primus eventually came up with a way to better guide the transformers the way he wanted them to be by coming up with the idea of reinventing himself as a god. Staying behind the scenes he created his 'original 13' a group of powerful transformers that would rebuild Cybertron (unknowingly) into a new body for Primus, and become the first leading council of cybertron spreading the word of Primus amongst the new generation of transformers. The 13 did truly believe that Primus was a god. Eventually though one would find out the truth and turn against Primus he would become known as the Fallen.

In this origin the male and female transformers exist because the AIs wished to model their new creations on existing lifeforms. Female transformers were designed with the ability to create a new spark for use in a protoform after "engaging" with a male transformer. This spark is a complete 'adult' transformer no kids exist in this origin.

Sorry if it's hard to understand but that is my rough version of my personal tf origin story. Any opinions or ideas are welcome, also interested if anyone else has their own non-god version?

Your story is fairly cohesive. It seems almost a Gnostic view on the whole Primus docterine. Primus as a false god and such is an idea I haven't seem before. But how did Unicron get so massive?

I last hashed it out in this thread:
what-tf-creation-myth-does-everyone-follow-t44841s25.php

but here it is again, since it's been a few years.


I don't really have my own myth, but I have a daydream which sketches out the TF origins that I would use if I had gotten to develop them. It deals with a series of questions that are raised throughout TF stories.
1. Why are TF's humanoid? Why not all of them?
2. Why is Cybertron so small?
3. Why does Cybertron have engines?
4. What is the Unicron connection?
5. What about the Quints?
6. What is the Matrix?
7. Where did Vector Sigma come from?
8. What is energon?

So... here goes.
Once upon a time there was an advanced organic humanoid culture in a very old star system. Their sun was soon to go red giant, obliterating many worlds and leaving none habitable. The peak of their power-tech is Energon, a quasi-mysical ultimate form of energy, as if potential could be converted into matter. They build a huge interstellar craft, or two, to colonize a new world with as many citizens as possible. One colony ship and one for raw materials and resource processing (Cybertron and Unicron.) Most are put into cold sleep to endure the journey, and a small society of operators are left to live in real-time, guiding the craft over generations. They are aided by a host of AI machenery and vehicles.

Things start to go wrong and break down. The closest system is not as habitable as they had hoped, and terraforming equipment is lost and damaged beyond repair in the attempt to make it habitable. They continue to the next-best bet of a system.

Systems start to fail. Original designers are in cold sleep or long dead. Attempts at reviving colonists fail, although the cold-sleeping bodies are still in tact. Attempts are made to tranfer intelligence from sleeping colonists into AI machines. Success is achieved, but great gaps appear in knowledge and memory. Personalities, however, are surprisingly whole. Transferred Colonists prefer humanoid shapes, otherwise they regress and dissipate, if not go mad.

Cold sleep systems fail. Colonist personalities are copied into a mainfram, Vector Sigma. Organic leftovers are processed.

The general life support systems begin to fail. Air and water cycles have given in to entropy and operator gene pools have grown shallow. Operators undergo the Transfer in order to continue their duties. The resulting memory loss disrupts the contiuity of history. One or two AI/ early transfers realize the trauma that could result from total recall, they erase all evidence of an organic past. They also develop a way to tranfer and store memories and personalities together, outside Vector Sigma, with little degredation. This will become the Matrix.

Transforming is invented to help the vehicle-bound AI better interact with the humanoid Trasferred organics. Scale of technology (the humanoids are rather large) has meant that the vehicles were more like beasts-of-burden anyways. Distinctions blur as AI develop stronger personalities. The ships' main computers also gain in self-awareness, but keep it a secret.

Layers continue to be built as the binary starships cross the galaxy. They now more resemble the planetoids and moons they consume for energy and materials. Primus and Unicron develop agendas.

Quintessons invade, enslave. Secred cabal of TF's on Unicron hold the Matrix, work on a way to destroy this, the hub of the Quint's new wealth. Transformers perfect transformation and discover mass-shifting. Unicron learns this technology, and of the plot for his destruction, escapes, develops "immune system" and transforming ability.

TF's repel Quints in an uprising many years later.

Decepticons develop as a virus corrupts programming, personalities. Some decepticons not corrupted, just opportunists or bad folks all along.

Insert the rest of the media here.

Well that sort of answers my own questions, what do you think? (This doesn't go along with any canon, but it answers questions the canons never did.)

I like that origin story, it's interesting and does answer the unanswered questions. I was really interested in the part where they transfered the colonists into AI machines and the dangers involved which works well with what we have seen in the G1 Transformer Cartoon universe when Spike was transferred into a transformer body and spent the episode in a constant flux of madness, the trauma of being organic and suddenly becoming a machine would be immense and your origin has recognised that and given a logical answer for why the Transformers have (and would need) a lack of knowledge of their past.