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One of thoughs "who would win in a fight" topics (Name Changers)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:16 pm
by Saber Prime
I've made a list of characters from each series who have changed their names along with an upgrade. (Please add to this list if you see I've missed any. Note: Just adding something to the exsisting name like Crumplezone and Dark Crumplezone doesn't count.)

:BOT: :MAX: :MAX2: :MINI:

G1: Orian Pax, Optimus Prime, Aireal, Elita-One, A-3, Alpha Trion, Hot Rod, Rodimus Prime, Bumblebee, and Goldbug

BW/BM: Airrazor, Tigatron, Tigerhawk, Rhinox, BW Silverbolt, and BM Silverbolt

Armada: Smokescreen and Hoist

Energon: Inferno, Roadblock, Wing Dagger, and Wing Saber

Cybertron: Overhaul and Leobreaker

:CON: :PRED: :VEHI: :MINI:

G1: Megatron, Galvatron, Bombshell, Cyclonus, Thundercracker, and Scourge

BW/BM: Tankor, Jetstorm, Waspinator, and Thrust

RID: Megatron and Galvatron

Armada: Megatron, Galvatron, Leader-1, Clench, Starscream, Thundercracker, Sideways, and Nemesis Prime

Energon: Megatron, Galvatron, Cyclonus, Snowcat, Tidal Wave, and Mirage

Cybertron: Megatron and Galvatron

Total team count so far.

:BOT: :MAX: :MAX2: :MINI: 24

:CON: :PRED: :VEHI: :MINI: 28

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:38 am
by DREWCIFER
Does it count if they die and are "Reborn"?

Cybertrons:
OP/Convoy to Star Convoy
God Ginria(spl?) to Victory Leo
Blaster to Twincast

Destrons:
Soundwave to Soundblaster
And I'm not sure if they are the same characters or not but Scorponok/Zarak to Black Zarak.

These are all from the Japanese continuim, but they fall into your quiry.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:42 am
by DREWCIFER
Sorry, I thought of another.

Megatron to Galvetron to Super Megatron to Ultra Megatron to Star Giant Megatron.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:55 am
by Scatterlung
Dion - Ultra Magnus

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:23 am
by DREWCIFER
Meverix says
Dion - Ultra Magnus


Is that canon(part of the storyline)?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:48 am
by Xephon
G1 Optimus Prime and Megatron fused into Guiltar

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:20 pm
by Scatterlung
DJDrew&ScoobyDoo wrote:Meverix says
Dion - Ultra Magnus


Is that canon(part of the storyline)?

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You know I'm really not sure. I've just heard it a lot, and Dion is the other toy packaged with Orion Pax in that repaint set of Kup (Orion) and Wheelie (Dion) I believe. I'm not sure it's canon, certainly didn't get a mention in G1, really don't know where it came from but... Feh.


And to Xephon, who I've not seen on the boards before. Is your username an allusion to Zephon?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:46 pm
by DREWCIFER
Well, if we are counting fused, whynot include Ratchet and Megatron in the Marvel Comix line? I know that they did get separated, but at what cost?

On second thought, they didn't have a combined name, just a mess of robots. So they probably don't count.

And to Meverix. I thought that I heard that UM and OP were brothers, from the same model. But if Prime was an upgrade from Orion Pax, maybe UM is from Dion?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:54 pm
by Xephon
Meverix wrote:
DJDrew&ScoobyDoo wrote:Meverix says
Dion - Ultra Magnus


Is that canon(part of the storyline)?

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You know I'm really not sure. I've just heard it a lot, and Dion is the other toy packaged with Orion Pax in that repaint set of Kup (Orion) and Wheelie (Dion) I believe. I'm not sure it's canon, certainly didn't get a mention in G1, really don't know where it came from but... Feh.


And to Xephon, who I've not seen on the boards before. Is your username an allusion to Zephon?
Nope, its an allusion to the anime series RahXephon.

Kickback and Shrapnel - The Sweeps (Oooooh, controversial heh)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:42 pm
by Saber Prime
DJDrew&ScoobyDoo wrote:These are all from the Japanese continuim, but they fall into your quiry.
We're not useing Japanese continuim the simple reason being it'd make the list WAY too long. The Japanese do this kind of thing all the time just like the US allways reuse names. It's verry rare that the US will change a character's name and the Japanese will reuse a name.

Meverix wrote:Dion - Ultra Magnus
As much as I'd like to belive Dion was rebuilt I think it was confermed that Dion was damaged beyond the ability to be rebuilt. In other words he's dead.

Xephon wrote:G1 Optimus Prime and Megatron fused into Guiltar
Guiltar is not the same character as Optimus and Megatron. He's a completly different character that was designed with some simular features as the 2 of them.

Tigerhawk is different. The Vok actully fused the sparks from Tigatron and Airrazor togeather to create Tigerhawk. That isn't how Guiltar was created.

Xephon wrote:Kickback and Shrapnel - The Sweeps (Oooooh, controversial heh)
The only reason The Sweeps and "His Armada" are not listed is because technically they were never given names. Only Scourge, Cyclonus, and Galvatron himself can really be considered name changes. The rest of the bots upgraded with them were turned into mindless drones as far as I can tell.

Of course if you can find anything cannon to show they did have names then we can count them. As far as I know though they're just a groups of drones called Sweeps and Armada.