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Tracks

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:34 pm
by Godzilla
Shouldn't he be consider a triple changer, because he can sprout wings and fly?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:36 pm
by Goribus
No. It's not a completely different alternate mode. He's more of an honorary Omnibot. Besides the concept for Triplechangers came out after his toy was released.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:06 am
by Godzilla
Goribus wrote:No. It's not a completely different alternate mode. He's more of an honorary Omnibot. Besides the concept for Triplechangers came out after his toy was released.
Well I didn't know that part, whats an Omnibot?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:07 am
by Godzilla
Goribus wrote:No. It's not a completely different alternate mode. He's more of an honorary Omnibot. Besides the concept for Triplechangers came out after his toy was released.
Well I didn't know that part, whats an Omnibot?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:26 am
by Goribus
Godzilla wrote:
Goribus wrote:No. It's not a completely different alternate mode. He's more of an honorary Omnibot. Besides the concept for Triplechangers came out after his toy was released.
Well I didn't know that part, whats an Omnibot?


The toys were all mail orders which makes them rare (similar to Reflector but he got cartoon and comic book time). They were basically the prototypes for the triple changers both in the real world as toys and in the canon (despite never really being involved in the fiction.) They had the gimmick of a secondary transformation in vehicle mode usually involving a weapon but one had wings too if I'm not mistaken.

http://seibertron.com/database/list.php ... oup_id=109

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camshaft_% ... formers%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downshift
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overdrive_ ... formers%29

For a Transformer to be a Triple Changer he has to have two distinct vehicle modes (usually a land and air mode but this isn't always the case. Broadside was an Aircraft Carrier and a Jet). So Tracks wasn't really a Triplechanger per say. But he can be compaired to the Omnibots in the fact that they were the forerunners of the Triple Changers. I hope that cleared things up.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:17 am
by Ramrider
Yeah, some TFs have extra transformations without actually having extra transformations. Overdrive (which is the flying Omnibot that Goribus referred to) had flip-out wings and a nose cannon. Scattershot has the 'base' or cannon mode, which isn't largely thought of a separate mode, so much as a half-way stop with a useful purpose. Same goes for Jetfire, who can technically adopt a half-way mode which takes the best elements of both his robot and jet mode (although there would be legal repercussions if he actually used it ;)).

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:40 am
by Burn
The Omnibots were actually considered the next stage in the "evolution of Transformer life".

At least I think that's what they're bio said. Great little figures, very under-rated.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:39 am
by Godzilla
Burn wrote:The Omnibots were actually considered the next stage in the "evolution of Transformer life".

At least I think that's what they're bio said. Great little figures, very under-rated.
HMM I never did that!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:55 am
by ThunderThruster
i've got to agree that its just a variation of his alt mode!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:42 pm
by Goribus
Ramrider wrote:Yeah, some TFs have extra transformations without actually having extra transformations. Overdrive (which is the flying Omnibot that Goribus referred to) had flip-out wings and a nose cannon. Scattershot has the 'base' or cannon mode, which isn't largely thought of a separate mode, so much as a half-way stop with a useful purpose. Same goes for Jetfire, who can technically adopt a half-way mode which takes the best elements of both his robot and jet mode (although there would be legal repercussions if he actually used it ;)).


Actually most of the Combiner leaders had secondary base modes. They weren't included in the American (or I'm guessing international) instructions, but the Japanese instructions listed them. Also if you watch the Scramble City feature on the 20th anniversy movie dvd and don't fall asleep from the commentary they bring it up too. And Jetfire used his Gerwalk mode in the cartoon at least once.

Burn wrote:The Omnibots were actually considered the next stage in the "evolution of Transformer life".

At least I think that's what they're bio said. Great little figures, very under-rated.


I had them as a kid. I loved them alot. I'd look into replacing them but I know the price tag involved would probably make me very very sad. :P

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:15 pm
by Burn
Goribus wrote:I had them as a kid. I loved them alot. I'd look into replacing them but I know the price tag involved would probably make me very very sad. :P


You really should look around. I don't think they're overly popular so the price tag is nothing like Springer or Gnaw (two of which were/are "grails" for me and I never saw them under $100AU. Until I found a Springer with a buy it now for under $100AU which I snapped up). They're just rare and harder (not majorly impossible though) to find.