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Thunderwing, Sunstorm, Omega Supreme andSixshot

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:43 pm
by Godzilla
Those to me r the most powerful TFs ever! You agree?!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:45 pm
by Burn
Are we talking from the Dreamwave/IDW universes?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:51 pm
by Godzilla
Burn wrote:Are we talking from the Dreamwave/IDW universes?
Yes! Sunstorm(Hes crazier than Wildrider!) took down Warpath and whole other Autobots by him self! Thunderwing is just purley insane!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:06 am
by Burn
Well in that case ...

Sunstorm I am NOT a fan of. He's just some cheap tacky repaint plucked from animation error obscurity and given the characterisation of a demi-god. Powerful? Yes. Memorable character? Definitely not.

Thunderwing I like. I thought he was given a great characterisation in the Marvel comics, IDW just took that strength to a new level.

Trouble is, between DW and IDW, Sunstorm and Thunderwing have both been these demi-god like characters which requires teaming up between Autobot and Decepticon to take them down. The whole "enemies uniting to fight a common foe" thing gets old quickly.

Omega Supreme - Well yes. He is powerful, that was the whole idea behind the Sentinels and pretty much every take on TF's have done him well.

Sixshot - Has always suppose to be a powerful character, he does have six modes after all. IDW did a great job of his character.

Are they the most powerful ever? Probably, each in their own right. Omega Supreme could probably be taken down by a combiner gang up, Sixshot as well, but Thunderwing and Sunstorm, just over-played demi-gods.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:07 am
by Rebirth Megatron
The Fallen and the Last Autobot are needed additions.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:16 am
by Godzilla
Burn wrote:Well in that case ...

Sunstorm I am NOT a fan of. He's just some cheap tacky repaint plucked from animation error obscurity and given the characterisation of a demi-god. Powerful? Yes. Memorable character? Definitely not.

Thunderwing I like. I thought he was given a great characterisation in the Marvel comics, IDW just took that strength to a new level.

Trouble is, between DW and IDW, Sunstorm and Thunderwing have both been these demi-god like characters which requires teaming up between Autobot and Decepticon to take them down. The whole "enemies uniting to fight a common foe" thing gets old quickly.

Omega Supreme - Well yes. He is powerful, that was the whole idea behind the Sentinels and pretty much every take on TF's have done him well.

Sixshot - Has always suppose to be a powerful character, he does have six modes after all. IDW did a great job of his character.

Are they the most powerful ever? Probably, each in their own right. Omega Supreme could probably be taken down by a combiner gang up, Sixshot as well, but Thunderwing and Sunstorm, just over-played demi-gods.
Yeah but the Sentinels were the size of regular size TFs. Omega is probably the smartest of the Giant TFs! I loved Sunstorm! He was gonna destroy the earth's core!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:01 am
by Burn
Godzilla wrote:Yeah but the Sentinels were the size of regular size TFs.


You sure about that?

I loved Sunstorm! He was gonna destroy the earth's core!


I'm sure Megatron tried that a few times.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:20 am
by Predaprince
Burn wrote:
Godzilla wrote:Yeah but the Sentinels were the size of regular size TFs.


You sure about that?

I loved Sunstorm! He was gonna destroy the earth's core!


I'm sure Megatron tried that a few times.


Yeah, check out "The Core".

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:25 am
by Godzilla
Burn wrote:
Godzilla wrote:Yeah but the Sentinels were the size of regular size TFs.


You sure about that?

I loved Sunstorm! He was gonna destroy the earth's core!


I'm sure Megatron tried that a few times.



What r u talkin about? The current Sentinel desighns r 20 feet or so! But they're weak! Hell Bumble Bee could take out 5 by himself!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:05 am
by Predaprince
Godzilla wrote:
Burn wrote:
Godzilla wrote:Yeah but the Sentinels were the size of regular size TFs.


You sure about that?

I loved Sunstorm! He was gonna destroy the earth's core!


I'm sure Megatron tried that a few times.



What r u talkin about? The current Sentinel desighns r 20 feet or so! But they're weak! Hell Bumble Bee could take out 5 by himself!


the typical Sentinel is three-stories tall

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:36 am
by Godzilla
Predaprince wrote:
Godzilla wrote:
Burn wrote:
Godzilla wrote:Yeah but the Sentinels were the size of regular size TFs.


You sure about that?

I loved Sunstorm! He was gonna destroy the earth's core!


I'm sure Megatron tried that a few times.



What r u talkin about? The current Sentinel desighns r 20 feet or so! But they're weak! Hell Bumble Bee could take out 5 by himself!


the typical Sentinel is three-stories tall
No I checked their bios and the typical Sentinels r aout 20ft in length!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:04 pm
by Predaprince
This thread is filled with more holes than the plots of BM.

First off, Burn said that Omega Supreme is a Sentinel, that isn't what they are called. Omega Supreme is one of the Guardian Robots.

Second, I assumed then when Godzilla began to talk about Sentinels, he was speaking of the ones from X-Men, which from what I have read they are three-stories tall. Please inform me if it is the X-men Sentinels you are speaking of and if it is where you are reading that they are 20 ft. tall.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:25 pm
by Burn
Predaprince wrote:First off, Burn said that Omega Supreme is a Sentinel, that isn't what they are called. Omega Supreme is one of the Guardian Robots.


GAH! DOH!

I bet I was thinking "blue Omega's" and went with the name of the blue repaint from Energon.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:04 pm
by Godzilla
Predaprince wrote:This thread is filled with more holes than the plots of BM.

First off, Burn said that Omega Supreme is a Sentinel, that isn't what they are called. Omega Supreme is one of the Guardian Robots.

Second, I assumed then when Godzilla began to talk about Sentinels, he was speaking of the ones from X-Men, which from what I have read they are three-stories tall. Please inform me if it is the X-men Sentinels you are speaking of and if it is where you are reading that they are 20 ft. tall.
Look it really doesn't matter how big they are, they're **** weak! I bet multiple Man could take down a couple!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:44 pm
by Predaprince
Godzilla wrote:
Predaprince wrote:This thread is filled with more holes than the plots of BM.

First off, Burn said that Omega Supreme is a Sentinel, that isn't what they are called. Omega Supreme is one of the Guardian Robots.

Second, I assumed then when Godzilla began to talk about Sentinels, he was speaking of the ones from X-Men, which from what I have read they are three-stories tall. Please inform me if it is the X-men Sentinels you are speaking of and if it is where you are reading that they are 20 ft. tall.
Look it really doesn't matter how big they are, they're weak! I bet multiple Man could take down a couple!


Relax.

I wasn't arguing with you, just curious of where you got your info from. You said you read it from a bio and I wanted to know where. I agree that the original Sentinels were depicted in the 90's X-men show as being quite weak, even Jubilee could take down one on her own, but that depiction did little justice for their overall usage.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:14 am
by Godzilla
Predaprince wrote:
Godzilla wrote:
Predaprince wrote:This thread is filled with more holes than the plots of BM.

First off, Burn said that Omega Supreme is a Sentinel, that isn't what they are called. Omega Supreme is one of the Guardian Robots.

Second, I assumed then when Godzilla began to talk about Sentinels, he was speaking of the ones from X-Men, which from what I have read they are three-stories tall. Please inform me if it is the X-men Sentinels you are speaking of and if it is where you are reading that they are 20 ft. tall.
Look it really doesn't matter how big they are, they're weak! I bet multiple Man could take down a couple!
No they r weak in the comics too! The Omega Sentinels r the real powful ones. The Autobots would take them down though!

Relax.

I wasn't arguing with you, just curious of where you got your info from. You said you read it from a bio and I wanted to know where. I agree that the original Sentinels were depicted in the 90's X-men show as being quite weak, even Jubilee could take down one on her own, but that depiction did little justice for their overall usage.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:13 am
by Uncrazzimatic
Predaprince wrote:
Godzilla wrote:
Predaprince wrote:This thread is filled with more holes than the plots of BM.

First off, Burn said that Omega Supreme is a Sentinel, that isn't what they are called. Omega Supreme is one of the Guardian Robots.

Second, I assumed then when Godzilla began to talk about Sentinels, he was speaking of the ones from X-Men, which from what I have read they are three-stories tall. Please inform me if it is the X-men Sentinels you are speaking of and if it is where you are reading that they are 20 ft. tall.
Look it really doesn't matter how big they are, they're weak! I bet multiple Man could take down a couple!


Relax.

I wasn't arguing with you, just curious of where you got your info from. You said you read it from a bio and I wanted to know where. I agree that the original Sentinels were depicted in the 90's X-men show as being quite weak, even Jubilee could take down one on her own, but that depiction did little justice for their overall usage.


Weren't the drones shown in revenge of Bruticus also called Sentinels? I've always assumed that the sentinels in TF continuity refered to Shockys drone army.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:49 am
by Godzilla
Uncrazzimatic wrote:
Predaprince wrote:
Godzilla wrote:
Predaprince wrote:This thread is filled with more holes than the plots of BM.

First off, Burn said that Omega Supreme is a Sentinel, that isn't what they are called. Omega Supreme is one of the Guardian Robots.

Second, I assumed then when Godzilla began to talk about Sentinels, he was speaking of the ones from X-Men, which from what I have read they are three-stories tall. Please inform me if it is the X-men Sentinels you are speaking of and if it is where you are reading that they are 20 ft. tall.
Look it really doesn't matter how big they are, they're weak! I bet multiple Man could take down a couple!


Relax.

I wasn't arguing with you, just curious of where you got your info from. You said you read it from a bio and I wanted to know where. I agree that the original Sentinels were depicted in the 90's X-men show as being quite weak, even Jubilee could take down one on her own, but that depiction did little justice for their overall usage.


Weren't the drones shown in revenge of Bruticus also called Sentinels? I've always assumed that the sentinels in TF continuity refered to Shockys drone army.



I remeber!



Bruticus: You control Sentinels(Shockwave)! If u destroyed robots defeated!

Shockwave: I must protect Cybertron from all hostile threats!