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Seibertron wrote:I'm baffled that they screwed up the colors for Astrotrain and Blitzwing. They could have done the original G1 version to give everyone something different for reissues (especially since there has never been a reissue of Astrotrain in his original Hasbro G1 colors), or they could have done platinum paint jobs on them like the Predaking reissue a few years back, something, anything other than random paint schemes that don't currently have any precedent. Weird.

Cobotron wrote:I'll be the odd ball.
I never had either of these guys as a kid. In 30 years I have never acquired them. I'm not a hardcore G1 traditionalist. I am also finding I have so many classic-esq versions of so many characters that the odd ones really appeal to me. Out of all the upcoming G1 reisues, confirmed and rumored, this is the set I want most, and I've never had all the Dinobots either.

This all being said, I'm still super curious as to why they went with these decos. I'm starting to wonder if they are really meant for other markets (Asia, Central and South America, etc.), and them being released into ours is kind of an after thought.

Seibertron wrote:I'm baffled that they screwed up the colors for Astrotrain and Blitzwing. They could have done the original G1 version to give everyone something different for reissues (especially since there has never been a reissue of Astrotrain in his original Hasbro G1 colors), or they could have done platinum paint jobs on them like the Predaking reissue a few years back, something, anything other than random paint schemes that don't currently have any precedent. Weird.

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I'll be the odd ball.
I never had either of these guys as a kid. In 30 years I have never acquired them. I'm not a hardcore G1 traditionalist. I am also finding I have so many classic-esq versions of so many characters that the odd ones really appeal to me. Out of all the upcoming G1 reisues, confirmed and rumored, this is the set I want most, and I've never had all the Dinobots either.

This all being said, I'm still super curious as to why they went with these decos. I'm starting to wonder if they are really meant for other markets (Asia, Central and South America, etc.), and them being released into ours is kind of an after thought.

I like your approach and these have me really curious (although I already have G1 astrotrain, which indeed is quite cheap without his accessory). But while I would spend a premium on the coneheads, I dont feel as inclined here (or the insecticons). What would be your limit to spending on this set?

Railbomb wrote:Curious to see what color Astrotrain's train mode is.

mooncake623 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Blitzwing appears to be a simple color swap. All his tan is now brown and all his purple is now magenta.

Astrotrain, however, it a much more complex color change. His black is now purple, except for where it's still black. His gray is now orange, except for where it's still gray. And his purple is now gray, except for the tips of his wings and his rear boosters being orange. Oy.

Are these fancy new repaints homaging anything?

Blitzwing appears to be homaging G1 Duocon Flywheels, with a hint of G1 Thrust.

Ah okay, what about Astrotrain?

Amelie wrote:

Seibertron wrote:I'm baffled that they screwed up the colors for Astrotrain and Blitzwing. They could have done the original G1 version to give everyone something different for reissues (especially since there has never been a reissue of Astrotrain in his original Hasbro G1 colors), or they could have done platinum paint jobs on them like the Predaking reissue a few years back, something, anything other than random paint schemes that don't currently have any precedent. Weird.

I wouldn't even be interested in this set if it wasn't for the wacky colours.

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william-james88 wrote:Is Counterpunch going to eat his hat?

redoutlander wrote:
Jokes aside, Hasbro knows that many G1 collectors will not pick up multiple duplicates of figures they already own. How many 1986 blurs do you really want cluttering up your shelf space, right? ScottyP and Mr. Jivoin talked about this kind of thing at ToyFair. Mr. Jivoin even went to as far to say that they would NOT release old figures unless they could do something SPECIAL with it. That is why they wont rerelease a g1 duplicate of Blitzwing and Astrotrain. This is especially bad for these two as I don't believe either has had a Western brick and mortar release in 25 years.

What about the over priced G1 accurate insecticons warming the shelves right now? Well, Hasbro also knows that MOST of us WILL pick up multiples of generic troop building bots. A swarm of insecticons is always fun; a gang of vehicons would be even better! Though i think the price point is a little high and the box is too big for what’s inside. I hate oversized boxes with lots of empty space to justify overpricing. A book with a new cover is still the same book.

william-james88 wrote:

redoutlander wrote:
Jokes aside, Hasbro knows that many G1 collectors will not pick up multiple duplicates of figures they already own. How many 1986 blurs do you really want cluttering up your shelf space, right? ScottyP and Mr. Jivoin talked about this kind of thing at ToyFair. Mr. Jivoin even went to as far to say that they would NOT release old figures unless they could do something SPECIAL with it. That is why they wont rerelease a g1 duplicate of Blitzwing and Astrotrain. This is especially bad for these two as I don't believe either has had a Western brick and mortar release in 25 years.

What about the over priced G1 accurate insecticons warming the shelves right now? Well, Hasbro also knows that MOST of us WILL pick up multiples of generic troop building bots. A swarm of insecticons is always fun; a gang of vehicons would be even better! Though i think the price point is a little high and the box is too big for what’s inside. I hate oversized boxes with lots of empty space to justify overpricing. A book with a new cover is still the same book.

While I understand from an individual collector's point of view, those two statements dont hold up with one another. Reissuing a toy that has been reissued before in the exact same colours while reissuing a toy that was never reissued with its original colors, in crazy colours not linked to anything sounds pretty insane to me. The fact that this is in the same line as the insecticons is as bonkers as the insecticon price. And plus, the seekers were never reissued by hasbro and they get the G1 deco, so once again that argument doesnt hold at all. If ever there is another interview, I really hope someone asks what the logic was behind this, both the deco and the price. I am really curious to see how deep the final discount will be on both the insecticons and the triple changer set.

Cobotron wrote:I'll be the odd ball.
I never had either of these guys as a kid. In 30 years I have never acquired them. I'm not a hardcore G1 traditionalist. I am also finding I have so many classic-esq versions of so many characters that the odd ones really appeal to me. Out of all the upcoming G1 reisues, confirmed and rumored, this is the set I want most, and I've never had all the Dinobots either.

This all being said, I'm still super curious as to why they went with these decos. I'm starting to wonder if they are really meant for other markets (Asia, Central and South America, etc.), and them being released into ours is kind of an after thought.