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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Oh, only 9 issues??? From how people refer to it, I thought it went on for a couple years?

Emerje wrote:The comics lasted 12 issues, not nine, plus it had five G.I.Joe crossover comics.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

shajaki wrote:I find it odd that we are even discussing/arguing this. I feel the way the MP line has gone, to be a rather fluid evolution. The expansion to other branches just seems natural.

Besides, seeing an MP S1 Optimus Primal be made is a lot less surprising than a G1 Grapple. So saying that the MP BW doesn't have far to go before it's exhausted or people lose interest is ridiculous.

MP Grapple people.

^^^

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Hey DMax, what I said! But we's all talking here about MP mainline. Businesses will always focus on sure fire moneymakers. Currently, their choices for BW are are surefire hits but still, they will just comprise at max 20% of the line. It will always be G1. Even the curreent PotP, still G1. etc etc

In the end, just how many of the BW are sure to sell?

This is no Gwunner BS I speaking of unlike our very ESTEEMED ALLNEWSUPERROBOT who seems apt to fire from the hip with insults yet so easily melts away knowing his argument is as stable as Starscream's grip on the Decepticon leadership!

So, four 503 error botched attempts earlier, let's address this!

1) The percentages you gave were largely irrelevant. We're talking about the here and now. Take note of the examples I gave. The first 6 MP BW figures released add up to a third of the roster. The first 6 G1 MP line were not even close to that percentage. By that logic, if they had been started at the same time (the only way that would give the percentages you gave any actual merit) MP Beast Wars, possibly all the way upto season 3, would likely have been finished by now. It could even be argued that the Bayformer and BW MP lines were likely started to revive waning interest in the MP line. I mean, at this rate we'll be dead before they even finish Sunbow

2) Beast Wars is Still G1. The line that saved Transformers from obscurity and all that..

3)As for my misquoted "Gewunner BS" line, which solely referred to the last paragraph of your then previous comment. It was made because no one was talking about G1. This is a Beast Wars discussion thread and that's where the discussion was. To start rattling the sabre for G1 was completely random and nonsensical.

Lastly, I didn't "melt away" so don't flatter yourself and the only one throwing around 'insults' and 'arguments' was you. Everyone else was discussing about the topic at hand.

So let's get back to that.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think they'll do the transmetals at some point, it's just said point is going to be a long while off. So it's pointless gesturing based off accessories now, as they could easily re-include them later on. I mean it's going to be an easy 2-4 years till the bw mp line is ready for transmetals.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think they'll do the transmetals at some point, it's just said point is going to be a long while off. So it's pointless gesturing based off accessories now, as they could easily re-include them later on. I mean it's going to be an easy 2-4 years till the bw mp line is ready for transmetals.

Fair point. So how many redecos can they get out of what they have so far, including Dinobot and Megatron?


Optimus Primal - Apelinq (Non-TM versions do exist)
Cheetor - Shadow Panther
Dinobot - Grimlock - Hardhead (retool)
Megatron - T-Wrecks

That's at least another four perhaps?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wow, a lot more than I thought.

Surely Hardhead/Dinotron would suffice with a retool of MP Dinobot though? Clearly Thrustor being a more extensively altered design, would need a new, bigger mold.

ZeroWolf wrote:How did the robotmasters deco differ again?

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wow, a lot more than I thought.

Surely Hardhead/Dinotron would suffice with a retool of MP Dinobot though? Clearly Thrustor being a more extensively altered design, would need a new, bigger mold.

Both Thrustor and Hardhead haad cartoon models that were much more toy-accurate than Dinobot's was, so with Takara being all about show-accuracy with MPs as of late, they'd need new molds that better matched their original toys like how their cartoon models did.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wow, a lot more than I thought.

Surely Hardhead/Dinotron would suffice with a retool of MP Dinobot though? Clearly Thrustor being a more extensively altered design, would need a new, bigger mold.

Both Thrustor and Hardhead haad cartoon models that were much more toy-accurate than Dinobot's was, so with Takara being all about show-accuracy with MPs as of late, they'd need new molds that better matched their original toys like how their cartoon models did.

I see. They were a BWII/Neo thing? I only saw them in The Ascending (and links to the toys on the Wiki) so I assumed they were Con-exclusive redecos.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:How did the robotmasters deco differ again?

For Megatron:





Primal's RobotMasters figure as it was was similar enough to the original toy's colors.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:He's too small. Or the other Beast Wars MPs are too big.

The scale is about right so far. Ascending from Cheetor to Primal to Dinobot to Megatron. Inferno-Rhinox-Tigatron are the next three, descending from Dinobot. Everyone else is tiny.

Sabrblade wrote:Too small? Megs is gigantic. He's taller than Dinobot, who towers over Primal.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Techno-Organic

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Techno-Organic

Please don't use that to refer to the Season 1 forms. The Sourcebooks already mucked up that term enough when it's meant to refer to the unique alien hybrid forms of the Beast Machines Maximals.