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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:31 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Grahf_ wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:What I would like to see is that each bots would be released individually as two deluxes and one voyager... and make them compatible with each other! This way, we could create some original abomination by mix-n-matching Trippy and Magna parts! It would be fun and logical to make them this way.

And while we'll have this new system, why not make an original character or two or three to make a new combiner and to add a bit more possibilities?

I personally re envision them combining similarly to the GO! Shinobi and Samurai teams. Just without all three being able to become all three parts of the combined form. So I guess more like Rail Racer. So the top is only the top, the middle is always the middle and the bottom is always the bottom. I also wanted all five combiners in on this too. I go back and forth about adding Magmatron but since he's a multibot and not a combiner, I left him out.

Prowl, Ramhorn, Gekisoumaru, Kenzan and Railspike would all form the arms, upper chest and head. I'd also put Seasaur here if adding in Magmatron.

Silverbolt, Cicadacon, Hishoumaru, Jinbu, Rapid Run and Optimus Exprime would all form the torso and backpack. This is where Skysaur would go.

Ironhide, Sea Clamp, Sensuimaru, Ganoh and Midnight Express all forming the legs and pelvis. Landsaur would be here.

This is the configuration for GoKenzan and GoGekisou as well as Rail Racer. It also mostly lines up with how Magnaboss and Tripredacus work. This way they can all be interchangeable with each other. It can also leave some to be retools of each other too as there's two birds and two trains in the center and two lions on top.

From there they can go on to redeco and retool into existing and new characters for more combinations as you said. Maybe at some point make a Kenzan and Gekisoumaru that form just legs so they can form DaiKenzan and DaiGekisou along with Optimus Exprime. Or just make versions of all seven of them (or all of them in general) that can each become one of the three spots on the combiner. So we can create a three stack combiner with all pieces being the same bot. Kind of like what can be done currently with Hishoumaru.

Each figure only becoming one part of the combiner as it's most likely way too difficult to get them to have all five modes look good. At least this way they's only three modes for each figure. That to me just seems more easily achievable.

Just my thought on what you said. Been in my head for a while.


I would really, REALLY love this.

Maybe for the next "Trilogy"?

Re: Preorders and Official Images for Commander Magmatron

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:49 pm
by Sabrblade
william-james88 wrote:Image
Seeing this pic makes me realize something. Despite his name, Big Convoy is actually supposed to be the exact same height as both Lio Convoy and Optimus Primal. If we do get a new updated Big Convoy figure at the correct height he is supposed to be at, then he won't really be as big as his name implies.

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:31 pm
by Emerje
Wow, Magmatron is a giant! I thought he'd be priced more on parts count and complexity. Now I wonder how he'd look with MP Beast Megatron... :-?

Emerje

Re: Preorders and Official Images for Commander Magmatron

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:57 am
by Flashwave
Man that Magmatron looks great but he is really almost identical to the original. I dont know that I really need to get...

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Image
Seeing this pic makes me realize something. Despite his name, Big Convoy is actually supposed to be the exact same height as both Lio Convoy and Optimus Primal. If we do get a new updated Big Convoy figure at the correct height he is supposed to be at, then he won't really be as big as his name implies.

:shock: oh he's THAT big...

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:12 pm
by Overcracker
Mr. Thunder-thighs definitely doesn’t skip thigh day.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:26 pm
by o.supreme
I still think Magmatron could have been a tall leader instead of CC, but it is what it is... The toy looks great no doubt about that, but I really wonder how much better it will be than the 1999 original? Hopefully the Generations team has implemented many of the connection tabs they are famous for, to secure parts in place. Still Its hard to imagine a toy I paid maybe $40 (The Takara import at the time) as well as the Beast machines "Dinobots" subline Target exclusive in 2000 for around $25, now paying almost $100 for a slightly improved version... but time will tell.

Also its hard to believe in the series BW Neo, how hardly ever Big Convoy and Magmatron were in the same frame together. Here is one from episode 6. They were so tiny as it was a wide shot. I had to bring them closer together. Keep in mind, Optimus Primal (season 1 version), Lio Convoy & Big Convoy are all approximately the same height. If BC comes up to the middle of Magmatron's chest he isn't that much bigger. About the same as BW Megatron S1 size advantage over Optimus Primal.

Also, I'm sure there are some skirmishes between BC and Magmatron later in the series, but he kind of gets overshadowed by Unicron (using Galvatrons body from the previous series) in the last arc of the BW Neo. Also if you see that Galvatron, keep in mind Unicron has increased his size quite a bit. BW II Galvatron was another bot that was big... but under normal circumstances wasn't giant (he occasionally was hopped up on Algomois which did increase his size on a few occasions).

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:51 pm
by -Kanrabat-
o.supreme wrote:I still think Magmatron could have been a tall leader instead of CC, but it is what it is... The toy looks great no doubt about that, but I really wonder how much better it will be than the 1999 original? Hopefully the Generations team has implemented many of the connection tabs they are famous for, to secure parts in place. Still Its hard to imagine a toy I paid maybe $40 (The Takara import at the time) as well as the Beast machines "Dinobots" subline Target exclusive in 2000 for around $25, now paying almost $100 for a slightly improved version... but time will tell.


That was 25 years ago. And now, that 40$ is now 74$, which is pretty close to the Commander price.

I once owned the vintage. It was very fiddly to combine and was pretty much a brick. The new one will be bigger, on scale with the WFC crew, and will pose well. As for the fiddly factor, that remain to be seen.

If you still have your original Magmatron, it will be fun to have pictures comparing the old VS the new.

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:36 pm
by Sabrblade
o.supreme wrote:I still think Magmatron could have been a tall leader instead of CC, but it is what it is... The toy looks great no doubt about that, but I really wonder how much better it will be than the 1999 original? Hopefully the Generations team has implemented many of the connection tabs they are famous for, to secure parts in place. Still Its hard to imagine a toy I paid maybe $40 (The Takara import at the time) as well as the Beast machines "Dinobots" subline Target exclusive in 2000 for around $25, now paying almost $100 for a slightly improved version... but time will tell.
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o.supreme wrote:Also its hard to believe in the series BW Neo, how hardly ever Big Convoy and Magmatron were in the same frame together. Here is one from episode 6. They were so tiny as it was a wide shot. I had to bring them closer together. Keep in mind, Optimus Primal (season 1 version), Lio Convoy & Big Convoy are all approximately the same height. If BC comes up to the middle of Magmatron's chest he isn't that much bigger. About the same as BW Megatron S1 size advantage over Optimus Primal.
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o.supreme wrote:Unicron (using Galvatrons body from the previous series)
That's an age-old lie that this fandom has been spreading for the past 24 years.

Unicron was not resurrected in Galvatron's corpse. He was resurrected in an energy body made of his own Angolmois Energy, and which he could physically shapeshift into any form of his choosing. He chose to shape his energy body into the likeness of Galvatron in order to trick Magmatron into thinking that he really was Galvatron and not Unicron. It was part of a ruse. And once that ruse was over, Unicron simply chose to continue keeping his energy body in the likeness of Galvatron just because.

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:00 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
Given those scale charts, I think Big Convoy should be a leader, similar to Beast Megatron in terms of bulk. Plus, he needs the mass of the class for his Big Cannon!

Magmatron really does look incredible. It is possible he can beast out Armada Optimus for best commander.

And, seeing as I own the original, he looks to be a huge step up over the OG. He has pretty much all the same "gimmicks" if you can call them that, while also hopefully being much more sturdy and can actually pose.

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:31 pm
by Sowndwave76
Check it…
Rise (Reactivate) OP. He is packaged with a deluxe class Soundwave.

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:54 pm
by Razorbeast88
Hmmm not something I like enough to buy but not too shabby. Soundwave will be the make or break

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:27 am
by -Kanrabat-
Were's that Optimus from?
From what universe I mean.

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:21 am
by Sabrblade
Sowndwave76 wrote:Check it…
Rise (Reactivate) OP. He is packaged with a deluxe class Soundwave.
Wrong thread.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Were's that Optimus from?
From what universe I mean.
A standalone video game that hasn't come out yet (see the thread I linked to above).

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:09 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Were's that Optimus from?
From what universe I mean.
A standalone video game that hasn't come out yet (see the thread I linked to above).


Oh yeah, I forgot about that game.

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:10 pm
by Razorbeast88
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzcUTh_ulMH ... U2bGVocA==

New instagram post for tigerhawk is up!!!! Looks awesome
Love that he's getting the crescent eyes

We Finally have a Listing for Dinoking+ Cannonball, Target Themed Optimus and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:23 am
by william-james88
We knew a repaint of the core class Volcanicus combiner as Dinoking would be coming, it was hinted at since day 1. But it's nice to finally have that listing though. As assumed, it will be released as one combiner and not individual components/dinos. The listing has it as a Pulsecon exclusive. Speaking of exclusives, we also have an update for Walmart's 2024 exclusive Legacy subline with the addition of deluxe Cannonball. Those listings were found by JTPrime17 along with a listing of a Target exclusive Optimus Prime toy styled in Target colours, the next GI Joe Transformer crossover figure and 2 more classic heroes figures, which are the Rescue Bots styled figures.


TRA GEN LEGACY STAR SEEKERS DLX CANNONBALL
Product Number: G0231

TRA PROJECT GEE WIZ: GI JOE X TRANSFORMERS SGT Kup as the Triple T with SGT Slaughter and Leatherneck
Product Number: F9941

TRA GEN PCON DTC DINOKING
Product Number: G0181

TRA GEN LDR OPTIMUS PRIME AND AUTOBOT BULLSEYE
Product Number: F9652

TRA CLASSIC HEROES TEAM OPTIMUS PRIMAL
Product Number: G0449

TRA CLASSIC HEROES TEAM MIRAGE
Product Number: G0450

Re: We Finally have a Listing for Dinoking+ Cannonball, Target Themed Optimus and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:36 am
by Brokebot
william-james88 wrote:We knew a repaint of the core class Volcanicus combiner as Dinoking would be coming, it was hinted at since day 1. But it's nice to finally have that listing though. As assumed, it will be released as one combiner and not individual components/dinos. The listing has it as a Pulsecon exclusive. Speaking of exclusives, we also have an update for Walmart's 2024 exclusive Legacy subline with the addition of deluxe Cannonball. Those listings were found by JTPrime17 along with a listing of a Target exclusive Optimus Prime toy styled in Target colours, the next GI Joe Transformer crossover figure and 2 more classic heroes figures, which are the Rescue Bots styled figures.


TRA GEN LEGACY STAR SEEKERS DLX CANNONBALL
Product Number: G0231

TRA PROJECT GEE WIZ: GI JOE X TRANSFORMERS SGT Kup as the Triple T with SGT Slaughter and Leatherneck
Product Number: F9941

TRA GEN PCON DTC DINOKING
Product Number: G0181

TRA GEN LDR OPTIMUS PRIME AND AUTOBOT BULLSEYE
Product Number: F9652

TRA CLASSIC HEROES TEAM OPTIMUS PRIMAL
Product Number: G0449

TRA CLASSIC HEROES TEAM MIRAGE
Product Number: G0450


If anyone else besides me was holding out on this set in the vain hope for a decent Monstructor, there's an upgrade kit coming for the Volcanicus version that greatly improves it's appearance. To me, anyway. Not sure how the colors would mesh with the Dinoking colors, but here it is.

https://tfsource.com/3rd-party-figures/dk-47-upgrade-kit-for-transformers-legacy-dinosaur-combiner-figures-dna-design/

Re: We Finally have a Listing for Dinoking+ Cannonball, Target Themed Optimus and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:40 am
by Sabrblade
Brokebot wrote:If anyone else besides me was holding out on this set in the vain hope for a decent Monstructor, there's an upgrade kit coming for the Volcanicus version that greatly improves it's appearance. To me, anyway. Not sure how the colors would mesh with the Dinoking colors, but here it is.

https://tfsource.com/3rd-party-figures/dk-47-upgrade-kit-for-transformers-legacy-dinosaur-combiner-figures-dna-design/
Just wait for the inevitable Dinoking-colored version. This company typically makes releases for each different-colored version of the figure it makes kits for.

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:51 am
by Bumblevivisector
One gift set? 'Bout damn time.

Did anyone have luck finding all 6 Dinobots at regular retail? It seemed like every Target around me somehow skipped the first pair, so I stopped caring when the other 4 showed up.

Maybe unrelated but stranger: for a week or 2, RotB Core Arcee was in every Target I checked, but apparently street dated and unpurchasable. Never, ever saw one after that, period, so IDK if fast-acting collectors pounced in every store right on said date?

Sorry if I'm asking something that's been common knowledge for months, but ever since Core Class became a thing, its distribution has seemed particularly odd. Was it just after-effects of all the pegwarming Shockwaves at the beginning? Never thought I'd be so glad to see such small TFs get rereleased at a higher price point.

Re: We Finally have a Listing for Dinoking+ Cannonball, Target Themed Optimus and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:53 am
by Brokebot
Sabrblade wrote:
Brokebot wrote:If anyone else besides me was holding out on this set in the vain hope for a decent Monstructor, there's an upgrade kit coming for the Volcanicus version that greatly improves it's appearance. To me, anyway. Not sure how the colors would mesh with the Dinoking colors, but here it is.

https://tfsource.com/3rd-party-figures/dk-47-upgrade-kit-for-transformers-legacy-dinosaur-combiner-figures-dna-design/
Just wait for the inevitable Dinoking-colored version. This company typically makes releases for each different-colored version of the figure it makes kits for.


I actually prefer the silver/gold primary colors of the Dinobots myself, so I'm not bothering with Dinoking. I do know that the upgrade kit I put on POTP Volcanicus really remade him into a far more impressive figure and made me regret missing out on upgrades for the other combiners.

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 11:57 am
by Brokebot
Bumblevivisector wrote:One gift set? 'Bout damn time.

Did anyone have luck finding all 6 Dinobots at regular retail? It seemed like every Target around me somehow skipped the first pair, so I stopped caring when the other 4 showed up.

Maybe unrelated but stranger: for a week or 2, RotB Core Arcee was in every Target I checked, but apparently street dated and unpurchasable. Never, ever saw one after that, period, so IDK if fast-acting collectors pounced in every store right on said date?

Sorry if I'm asking something that's been common knowledge for months, but ever since Core Class became a thing, its distribution has seemed particularly odd. Was it just after-effects of all the pegwarming Shockwaves at the beginning? Never thought I'd be so glad to see such small TFs get rereleased at a higher price point.


I honestly didn't care about the set and didn't look for it until I spotted the upgrade. By that time, the only Transformer in the two Targets near me was Lego Optimus Prime. I wound up ordering them from https://www.agesthreeandup.com/ and https://tfsource.com/

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:08 pm
by Razorbeast88
I'm excited for cannonball

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:26 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Razorbeast88 wrote:I'm excited for cannonball

I'm curious what they will use as a base for him

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:38 pm
by Sabrblade
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:I'm excited for cannonball

I'm curious what they will use as a base for him
The Skids mold would work.

Image

These two were the custom class options for TFCon Orlando 2023.

Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:53 pm
by Razorbeast88
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:I'm excited for cannonball

I'm curious what they will use as a base for him
The Skids mold would work.

Image

These two were the custom class options for TFCon Orlando 2023.


Yes, cannonball out of crankcase or something would be great