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Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:01 pm**

Am I the only one here who actually thinks that the Iacon Engines on Legends Overlord's chest are kinda cool as they are?

I mean, if Super Ginrai can have a molded-in Iacon Engine of his own...

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:41 pm**

Sabrblade wrote:Am I the only one here who actually thinks that the Iacon Engines on Legends Overlord's chest are kinda cool as they are?

I mean, if Super Ginrai can have a molded-in Iacon Engine of his own...

I think they're cool too. The only thing that would have been better is putting engine blocks on Giga and Mega and just giving Overlord some other Headmaster. I know it wouldn't fit with the play pattern, but :TAKARATOMY:

did Targetmasters. There's no reason they couldn't throw in some Power/Godmasters into the Legends line.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:49 pm**

Lore Keeper wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Am I the only one here who actually thinks that the Iacon Engines on Legends Overlord's chest are kinda cool as they are?

I mean, if Super Ginrai can have a molded-in Iacon Engine of his own...

I think they're cool too. The only thing that would have been better is putting engine blocks on Giga and Mega and just giving Overlord some other Headmaster. I know it wouldn't fit with the play pattern, but did Targetmasters. There's no reason they couldn't throw in some Power/Godmasters into the Legends line.

For me, it's like, Super Ginrai gets to be a Triplemaster by using the powers of being a Headmaster (his head), a Godmaster (his built-in Iacon Engine) and a Getmaster (his chest cockpit compartment). With Overlord, it's as though Giga and Mega were all like "Ginrai has one Iacon Engine? Well we have TWO! And we got Headmaster technology too! We've got the powers of a Headmaster and two built-in Godmasters all at once!" And then the comic threw in the surprise twist of of the Shinchokon-powered Overlord Tera just to make Overlord's power even more delightfully absurd. But that Overlord has two built-in Iacon Engines like how Ginrai has one just seems like the kind of fun oneupsmanship that the villain would have as a response to Ginrai's own built-in Iacon Engine. :-P

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:50 pm**

Lore Keeper wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Am I the only one here who actually thinks that the Iacon Engines on Legends Overlord's chest are kinda cool as they are?

I mean, if Super Ginrai can have a molded-in Iacon Engine of his own...

I think they're cool too. The only thing that would have been better is putting engine blocks on Giga and Mega and just giving Overlord some other Headmaster. I know it wouldn't fit with the play pattern, but did Targetmasters. There's no reason they couldn't throw in some Power/Godmasters into the Legends line.

What would work against them is the fact they'd be nothing more than ornaments without anything to trigger, UT-style... like the current Prime Masters. They even had the preliminary name of "Power Masters" as well :lol:

Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:34 am**

Sabrblade wrote:Am I the only one here who actually thinks that the Iacon Engines on Legends Overlord's chest are kinda cool as they are?

I mean, if Super Ginrai can have a molded-in Iacon Engine of his own...

I'm fine with what they did. If I were to complain, it might be that Overlord doesn't scale well with God Ginrai as far as cartoon accuracy is concerned. Maybe they could have gotten it right by making Super Ginrai & God Bomber voyager sized, but then we would still have a size problem with the upcoming Grand Maximus as well.

Instead, I will just be happy that we are getting modern versions of these characters at all & look forward to POTP to add more minions to my Masterforce shelf.

Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:36 am**

Relic0037 wrote:If I were to complain, it might be that Overlord doesn't scale well with God Ginrai as far as cartoon accuracy is concerned.

I get the feeling that the size issue is why Overlord Tera was thought up as a way to make Overlord better size up to God Ginrai.

Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:55 am**

Sabrblade wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:If I were to complain, it might be that Overlord doesn't scale well with God Ginrai as far as cartoon accuracy is concerned.
I get the feeling that the size issue is why Overlord Tera was thought up as a way to make Overlord better size up to God Ginrai.

Ditto.

Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:30 am**

Lore Keeper wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:If I were to complain, it might be that Overlord doesn't scale well with God Ginrai as far as cartoon accuracy is concerned.
I get the feeling that the size issue is why Overlord Tera was thought up as a way to make Overlord better size up to God Ginrai.

Ditto.

I'm all for equality! Why should the good guys get all the power-ups and not the bad guys?

Posted: **Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:28 am**

Lore Keeper wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:If I were to complain, it might be that Overlord doesn't scale well with God Ginrai as far as cartoon accuracy is concerned.
I get the feeling that the size issue is why Overlord Tera was thought up as a way to make Overlord better size up to God Ginrai.

Ditto.

Since I don't plan on getting a second Overlord & the Tera configuration wouldn't be cartoon accurate, I may just display him along side Super Ginrai.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:02 pm**

We seem to have some news concerning the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends line, after the unification of the brand with same releases between the Japanese company and Hasbro - as detailed here - via a summary on the Snakas blog of hobby and action figure magazine Hyper Hobby, and the section concerning Transformers. Below is a machine translation of the post, but the highlight appears to be something regarding Takara Tomy Mall and Legends, leading to believe that we may still indeed see Japanese exclusive decos and minor retools - but only as exclusives.

Take a read for yourselves below, or head here for the original Japanese post, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub discussion boards!

TF related to Hyper Hobby released today is 2 pages in color.

◆ Power of the Prime Japanese version Introduction of products from June to July.

Basically it looks like a new photo. The introductory text itself is not particularly novelty content, but regarding the PP series, it seems to be a policy to release all kinds with the worldwide common specification.

In relation to that, with regard to the future of the TF Legends of the current series, there is a description that "Takara Tomy Mall will be continued around the center".

By the way, with regard to the coalescing function of the dreaddwind and black wing, it was not mentioned here as well.

◆ Other, Introduction of 4 types of the first turbo change series, MP-34S Shadow Panther. Basically posted in advertisement materials.

There is nothing to do with Transformers, but articles about Shincarion 's toys are 3 pages in color, of which 1 page is an interview article on development staff of TakaraTomy. There is a description that development of Shinkallion toy went while consulting with the TF team.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:09 pm**

Can't wait to pay an arm and a leg, and another leg for TT Mall exclusives.

There should be a couple wallet Emojis.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:14 pm**

The figures we got for Headmasters were more than slight retools. If the quality is going to take a step back but the price remains the same or higher, I don't see myself buying Takara products again. I am still holding out hope for a new Super Ginrai.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:18 pm**

It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:06 pm**

primalxconvoy wrote:It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?

Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:09 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?

Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.

I've preordered all of the first two waves of these toys. However, if the content for wave 1 is identical to Hasbro's, I might cancel wave 2 and order the rest of the line from BBTS. If Takara are going to charge more for less, they've lost me as a customer for these toys.

Mind you, I don't think they care. I get the impression that TT have given up trying to push TFs as a main toyline for Japanese kids. Selling rebadged Hasbro stock for the main shops, while selling their previous style recoloured Legends figures now as "TT Mall exclusives" for collectors seems as cost effective as they can be.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:15 pm**

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The figures we got for Headmasters were more than slight retools. If the quality is going to take a step back but the price remains the same or higher, I don't see myself buying Takara products again. I am still holding out hope for a new Super Ginrai.

What do you mean by that? Apart from differences in paint and the occasional remolded part the figures were the same quality as the hasbro ones. It's not like Takara used different plastics.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:17 pm**

primalxconvoy wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?

Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.

I've preordered all of the first two waves of these toys. However, if the content for wave 1 is identical to Hasbro's, I might cancel wave 2 and order the rest of the line from BBTS. If Takara are going to charge more for less, they've lost me as a customer for these toys.

Is that cheaper? Shipping must be a real pain. Plus with BBTS for wave two, they dont let you buy figures individually, you have to buy the whole case of deluxes (and end up with doubles).

Plus, you can buy Snarl from amiami for the same price as BBTS and I am certain shipping within japan from amiami is cheaper than shipping from the US

amiami http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

bbts: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/68771

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:44 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?

Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.

I've preordered all of the first two waves of these toys. However, if the content for wave 1 is identical to Hasbro's, I might cancel wave 2 and order the rest of the line from BBTS. If Takara are going to charge more for less, they've lost me as a customer for these toys.

Is that cheaper? Shipping must be a real pain. Plus with BBTS for wave two, they dont let you buy figures individually, you have to buy the whole case of deluxes (and end up with doubles).

Plus, you can buy Snarl from amiami for the same price as BBTS and I am certain shipping within japan from amiami is cheaper than shipping from the US

amiami http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

bbts: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/68771

Actually, you've just solved a problem for me! I didn't actually know a place that had better shipping rates for 3P and Hasbro toys to Japan! Is that the best/cheapest place to go for Japan based customers?

If so, then just inside "Amiami" instead of bbts. However, i hope amiami accepts credit cards. I refuse to use a PayPal account.

EDIT: - Scratch that. It seems that, if Snarl is anything to go by, it's cheaper to get them domestically from Amazon Japan. However, your message prompted me to go to Amazon Japan, where I realised I didn't pre-order Snarl or Grimlock. Were they in the same wave as the other Dinobots? If not, then they are out now at Amazon Japan for preorder.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:02 pm**

primalxconvoy wrote:Actually, you've just solved a problem for me! I didn't actually know a place that had better shipping rates for 3P and Hasbro toys to Japan! Is that the best/cheapest place to go for Japan based customers?

If so, then just inside "Amiami" instead of bbts. However, i hope amiami accepts credit cards. I refuse to use a PayPal account.

There are a few and you have to compare. Amiami is the one I used a lot and i used Nippon Yassan as well. There is also anime export (but I think, as the title suggests, they are more for exports), HLJ and Big in Japan. I dont know which use credit cards since I always use paypal.

Amazon Japan has the best deals for MP toys it seems but they can also be good for some mainline toys as well. They were the cheapest place for movie toys last year.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:07 pm**

The big question is if this is true then are we talking short term during the PotP run or long term for the foreseeable future?

primalxconvoy wrote:Actually, you've just solved a problem for me! I didn't actually know a place that had better shipping rates for 3P and Hasbro toys to Japan! Is that the best/cheapest place to go for Japan based customers?

If so, then just inside "Amiami" instead of bbts. However, i hope amiami accepts credit cards. I refuse to use a PayPal account.

AmiAmi usually has the best Japanese prices online with large discounts. Why wouldn't you just assign your credit card to PayPal if you're willing to pay by card? Regardless, they do accept cards.

Emerje

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:11 pm**

Cheers folks. It seems though, that for these toys, Amazon is cheaper. It's free shipping, after all, whereas the others need international shipping and then domestic shipping fees. If the Hasbro versions where different, I usually use BBTS but they're doesn't seem much point. HLJ are great but I think they only sell Japanese stuff, not foreign stuff in Japan?

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:17 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:It seems that instead of Takara specific TFs being regular, with Ehobby, Million Publishing and TT Mail being exclusives, we now have Hasbro TFs being standard, with (some) MPs, and other exclusives being reserved for TT Mail and online?

Thats what it looks like. Their take on the TLK line was a good hint of things to come.

I've preordered all of the first two waves of these toys. However, if the content for wave 1 is identical to Hasbro's, I might cancel wave 2 and order the rest of the line from BBTS. If Takara are going to charge more for less, they've lost me as a customer for these toys.

Is that cheaper? Shipping must be a real pain. Plus with BBTS for wave two, they dont let you buy figures individually, you have to buy the whole case of deluxes (and end up with doubles).

Plus, you can buy Snarl from amiami for the same price as BBTS and I am certain shipping within japan from amiami is cheaper than shipping from the US

amiami http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

bbts: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/68771

For the bolded part, are you talking Hasbro or Takara Power of the Primes? 'Cause I just looked and it appears only singles of Takara are available (with many sold out), and on the Hasbro side, you can still just preorder Wave 2 sets, no duplicates, of all of the size classes including deluxes, with a few individual ones available (like Rodimus Unicronus). Or was the comment in reference to something else?

[Edit] Link to PotP Wave 2: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/68755

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:34 pm**

Agamemnon wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Is that cheaper? Shipping must be a real pain. Plus with BBTS for wave two, they dont let you buy figures individually, you have to buy the whole case of deluxes (and end up with doubles).

Plus, you can buy Snarl from amiami for the same price as BBTS and I am certain shipping within japan from amiami is cheaper than shipping from the US

amiami http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

bbts: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... ails/68771

For the bolded part, are you talking Hasbro or Takara Power of the Primes? 'Cause I just looked and it appears only singles of Takara are available (with many sold out), and on the Hasbro side, you can still just preorder Wave 2 sets, no duplicates, of all of the size classes including deluxes, with a few individual ones available (like Rodimus Unicronus). Or was the comment in reference to something else?

[Edit] Link to PotP Wave 2: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/68755

I am talking about Hasbro only. Because since the guy asking a question is in Japan, I wouldnt think he would buy Takara figures from BBTS and have them ship to Japan.

Hence why all of these questions confuses the **** out of me. They are the same toys. So if you are in the US, buy the Hasbro release from a US retailer. And if you are in Japan, buy the takara release from a Japanese retailer. I have no clue why anything else would be considered.

Also, this is the Legends thread. So, let this be the end of the POTP discussion here. If anyone wants to continue it or respond, then simply quote this and copy paste it in the POTP thread.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:10 pm**

In relation to that, with regard to the future of the TF Legends of the current series, there is a description that "Takara Tomy Mall will be continued around the center".

basically the only part that interested me. I'm glad the line is not going away entirely, but it may just focus on the occasional MP, or classic reissue. I'd love to open up the possibility of UW coming back, but I seriously, seriously doubt it.

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:20 pm**

You can order individually from BBTS if they are in stock, ut they are not listing Blackwing or Moonracer.

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