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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Do we know yet how it's being sold in Japan?

Na, it's weird but Hasbro has revealed their import of this toy before Japan revealed it themselves.

Ahh, so this is the toy from that Japanese commercial we saw.

Looks very nice. If it's anything like Takara's upscaled Evasion Mode (Legendary) Prime he should be a real nice toy to handle.

I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And oversized voyager for kids. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's funny how on social media and other websites, fans are clamoring for it saying it's better than what Hasbro is providing in the SS line. It's different, but is it better? Would this toy still be praised if it was released in the mainline with all the other kid toys instead of the Takara exclusive fanfare? Or would it be labelled as a big gimmicky toy of no consequence?

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And oversized voyager for kids. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's funny how on social media and other websites, fans are clamoring for it saying it's better than what Hasbro is providing in the SS line. It's different, but is it better? Would this toy still be praised if it was released in the mainline with all the other kid toys instead of the Takara exclusive fanfare? Or would it be labelled as a big gimmicky toy of no consequence?

I'm sure those who praise the thing as "better" missed the memo that it's an OVERSIED version of that voyager, not a "Takara premium paintjob" of yesteryears.

If it would have come out everywhere for the standard leader price, I would have considered it. But paying more? Nope.

Beside, I have a few too many preorders on my plate already.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And oversized voyager for kids. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's funny how on social media and other websites, fans are clamoring for it saying it's better than what Hasbro is providing in the SS line. It's different, but is it better? Would this toy still be praised if it was released in the mainline with all the other kid toys instead of the Takara exclusive fanfare? Or would it be labelled as a big gimmicky toy of no consequence?

I'm sure those who praise the thing as "better" missed the memo that it's an OVERSIED version of that voyager, not a "Takara premium paintjob" of yesteryears.

It's the typical TakaraTomy bias that will never go away As for the mainline Voyager comparison, it is similar but some parts feature different engineering like the feet and chest. Referring to Legendary Optimus Prime from AoE is apt however.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:It's the typical TakaraTomy bias that will never go away

Well, I indulged in that bias by ordering the trio of Henkei Seekers from Mandarake. At around 60$CAN shipped each, it's painful, but I just wanted to have a taste of that "superiority" for once.

Get ready for disappointment

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Get ready for disappointment

But.. but...
Chromed missile launchers...

CHROME!

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

Are we seeing the same thing? Am I missing something?


What hollowness do you see?
Its entirely different to the Voyager we have from the main line, and we have not yet seen the Studio Series Leader class version I don't think, and it has a ton of features the main line primal doesn't have including articulated hands and forearm guns.
I don't see SS having launchable missiles either.

Last time Takara did their own version of a toy, it was great upgrade. That Legendary Prime is in fact a fantastic figure, leagues better than the original Evasion mode Prime.

Overcracker wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

Are we seeing the same thing? Am I missing something?


What hollowness do you see?
Its entirely different to the Voyager we have from the main line, and we have not yet seen the Studio Series Leader class version I don't think, and it has a ton of features the main line primal doesn't have including articulated hands and forearm guns.
I don't see SS having launchable missiles either.

Last time Takara did their own version of a toy, it was great upgrade. That Legendary Prime is in fact a fantastic figure, leagues better than the original Evasion mode Prime.

The only things that are different are the articulated hands and other little details. It have the same hinges in the same place, the same proportions, the same everything.
Down to the hollowness of the hands as seen here and mos likely behind the ape feet if those were properly transformed and if we'd see the back.

Have a look:




Granted, it IS a new mold, but like that Hero Optimus or those old Optimus and Predaking "Cyberverse Commanders" boosted to enormous "voyagers". I don't see how much more...

This...

Huge...

Pointless...

Thing.. will,...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD FOKKING DAMMIT!



Oh well...

That Primal looks so awesome! That paint job looks really nice in robot mode. I preordered from BBTS, I am excited for that one.

they really did nail the design for movie Primal. He might have one of the best movie designs period, across all movies.

Speaking of Primal, my big electronic one arrived, and I got the smaller $10 Prime and Bee. All 3 are neat.

i adore Prime and Bee with Mirage, all 3 are pretty good and pretty fun $10 toys. I got exactly what I expected and wanted for the price, and I am very happy with them, Alt modes rock too.

Big Primal is also just a really fun toy. It really entertains me. I am glad to have an auto-transforming toy, just once for my collection. And he is fun to mess around with, and for my dogs to react to.







Sorry for the background noise, but I am very amused by Primal responding to Mountain Monsters

Fatimus Primal!

I'd like it but he cost almost as much as a freaking TITAN so unless the thing pop up at my local geek store who can accept my random rejects as store credits, I'll have to pass on that big electronic Primal.

As long as Primal has a butt flap, I don't want it. I'd rather stick with my non-transforming Yolo Park Primal if a flap-less Primal never comes out.

that is a nice looking Primal, though if I do decide to get it I'll go with EE for only $60 and get free shipping!

Any idea why the Yolopark Optimus Prime kit doesn't come with a weapon?

I am just loving this '77 Camaro alt mode for Bee

So I'm sure I'm one of the select few that CAN care less for this movie and toy line. I wish it was 2 month's from now so this line whittles off the shelves.

I found it hilarious at a local Target the endcap for this line was but in the back isle instead of the main isle. Instead they put Jurassic Park Anniversary on the endcap main isle. Is it a mistake? We'll see in the coming days.

Maximize!!!



Rhinox:

A second Freezer was a must for Scourge.



With his custom tanker that I made, it works perfectly.



And it works even more to take down that pesky Optimus Prime!

I'd love to see a battle master Freezer, I think Hasbro can pull it off. Of course by this point it would've to be made and ready to ship.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'd love to see a battle master Freezer, I think Hasbro can pull it off. Of course by this point it would've to be made and ready to ship.

I'd love it too and he would be a bit more in scale.
Too bad it will never happen.

When Takara announced their Ultimate Optimus Primal, many thought this was a return to form for leader class toys. In reality, it's more of an oversized figure, along the lines of Supreme Starscream. While there is plenty to love about that too, we just want you to get a good sense of what kind of toy this is before spending $60 on it. The video Takara posted on Twitter shows the transformation steps which has similarities to both the voyager and the Weaponizer Optimus Primal we got in the mainline.

Let us know what you think!

Link to Twitter video: https://twitter.com/tf_pr/status/166809 ... qt5dGpQuQg

What I think ?

That transformation is PERFECT.

Simple, effective, no tiny bits to struggle with, just pure fun.

I'm looking forward to it.

Why would anybody expect an Ultimate class figure to be a good Leader class one? I mean on the one hand why wouldn't they just call it Leader class if it is one and on the other hand we will be getting a Studio Series Leader class figure of RotB Optimus Primal this year. So it doesn't make sense to release two. It's very likely that it'll even be revealed next Tuesday.
And when I hear Ultimate (class) I think of something like TF Prime Beast Hunters Ultimate class Beast Fire Predaking. Definitely a gimmick toy.
Here's a list of all of the Ultimate (/Supreme) class figures there've been so far:
http://www.transformers-universe.com/in ... gebnis.php (just set "Class" to "Ultimate (Supreme")
The closest ones to Leader class are DotM Optimus Prime and maybe BM Air Attack Optimus Primal.