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Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:10 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
I keep thinking, with the additional blue on his chest (which I like) and the Hasbro diagonal stripes together, TT's Defensor could have really made a more solid argument for the higher asking price.

Yeah, that's what irks me. The higher asking price here is just due to exclusivity and not due to more paint or higher quality(compared to UW Superion and Menasor).

Yeah, I always thought that was TT's 'thing' take Hasbro's figures and make them look way more gorgeous... this feel like a serious cop-out "Oh, but its cartoon accurate, so that makes it okay... right?".

You'd think that if they were going to make a whole "new" mold, mark it up, and make it really exclusive, they'd at least give it an exceptional paintjob to go with it :HEADHURTS:

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:47 pm**

Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
I keep thinking, with the additional blue on his chest (which I like) and the Hasbro diagonal stripes together, TT's Defensor could have really made a more solid argument for the higher asking price.

Yeah, that's what irks me. The higher asking price here is just due to exclusivity and not due to more paint or higher quality(compared to UW Superion and Menasor).

Yeah, I always thought that was TT's 'thing' take Hasbro's figures and make them look way more gorgeous... this feel like a serious cop-out "Oh, but its cartoon accurate, so that makes it okay... right?".

You'd think that if they were going to make a whole "new" mold, mark it up, and make it really exclusive, they'd at least give it an exceptional paintjob to go with it

And they, TT/Hasbro has all of us in the hook.............d@rn plastic crack merchants! :lol:

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:05 pm**

fenrir72 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
I keep thinking, with the additional blue on his chest (which I like) and the Hasbro diagonal stripes together, TT's Defensor could have really made a more solid argument for the higher asking price.

Yeah, that's what irks me. The higher asking price here is just due to exclusivity and not due to more paint or higher quality(compared to UW Superion and Menasor).

Yeah, I always thought that was TT's 'thing' take Hasbro's figures and make them look way more gorgeous... this feel like a serious cop-out "Oh, but its cartoon accurate, so that makes it okay... right?".

You'd think that if they were going to make a whole "new" mold, mark it up, and make it really exclusive, they'd at least give it an exceptional paintjob to go with it

And they, TT/Hasbro has all of us in the hook.............d@rn plastic crack merchants!

Totally feel that way 'bout the Waruder Botcon pack this year; that exquisite paint job (even Waspies teeth in bot mode) totally don't need it what-so-ever, but I'm going to get it. :BOWDOWN:

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:38 pm**

Alfes2010 is running circles around Tokyo Toy Show this year, this time grabbing some shots of the TakaraTomy Transformers Unite Warriors UW-01 Superion & UW-02 Menasor display! We can see some great up close and in your face kind of shots, and these fellas have never looked prettier. These differ greatly from Hasbro's Menasor and Superion greatly, but deco and team members, making them the ideal choice for the hardcore fan. See the images below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:57 pm**

FINALLY! We get our very first full look at Unite Warriors Devastator and the individual constructicons. This was announced at the Transformers panel of the 2015 Tokyo Toy Show and you will find a few pictures of the reveal below, brought to us by Daim Choc's Facebook page and a tip from fellow Seibertronian MaverickPrime.

The big highlights are the different paint apps. I have also put pictures from the SDCC version, G1 version and Hasbro Combiner Wars version for comparisons. It seems to be as faithful to G1 as possible and there is no chrome.

The visor is retractable and as previously hinted, all Constructicons have individual weapons. Also, while the images are small, you can tell that both Long Haul and Scrapper have elbows. All of these features are not present on the SDCC Devastator.

SDCC Exclusive

Hasbro Combiner Wars

Generation 1

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:12 pm**

I'm in.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:15 pm**

So not only does the Takara release have better paint as well as individual weapons and a removable visor,but Long Haul and Scrapper has functioning elbows?

This makes the Hasbro molds look like unfinished prototypes.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:15 pm**

Here are some pics proving the elbows on all constructicons. If anyone finds the actual source and more of these, please let us know and please send them to us.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:15 pm**

-EDIT- Better pictures, take it back, if these actually do have the elbows, they're a must buy

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:18 pm**

Well Dragstrip looks positively garish in that full neon yellow (with no additional paint apps to break it up) :SICK:

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:20 pm**

Crap. I'm in. This is going to be pricey, but elbows are a HUGE plus. Despite his tiny arms, now I'm even more excited for Thunder Thighs Long Haul! He can go next to my RotF one.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:21 pm**

It's shocking how, despite them being extremely simple in design (They're literally tiny hinges), the elbows make a huge difference to the appearance of these guys.

And the Retractable Visor is an excellent touch.

Of course, being Takara and a big fella, it wouldn't surprise me if the TT Devastator is almost twice as much in price as the Hasbro version.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:22 pm**

william-james88 wrote:Here are some pics proving the elbows on all constructicons. If anyone finds the actual source and more of these, please let us know and please send them to us.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:23 pm**

Cobotron wrote:I'm in.

As am I.

Elbows....what a concept. :lol:

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:26 pm**

I wonder if Burn is willing to cross the bridge built by the guy who engineered this version of Scrapper?

Not sure what's happening, I guess it really is just price. TT can/ will cover the extra material/ parts cost for joints and Hasbro can't or won't. In Scrapper's case it could be U.S safety laws for the Devy mode also...not sure how that would affect Long Haul though.

EDIT: I have not the power to pull of such a request but, can we all stop arguing now? Many of us knew elbows on Scrapper were possible but kept getting shot down for no real reason. Not sure why everyone has to keep antagonizing each other, especially when we are all just talking common sense in a discussion forum.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:26 pm**

Xephon0930 wrote:So not only does the Takara release have better paint as well as individual weapons and a removable visor,but Long Haul and Scrapper has functioning elbows?

This makes the Hasbro molds look like unfinished prototypes.

Both hasbro versions, I totally agree. While I might end up with the hasbro version due to budget, I wont help but feel I am not getting the actual toy I want knowing this version is out there. I am curious though, with the Hasbro version being 159.99$ US, what would be the max you would pay for this Takara version? Like more than what price would it have to be for you to stick with the Hasbro version?

Aceoftherebellion wrote:-EDIT- Better pictures, take it back, if these actually do have the elbows, they're a must buy

Elbows confirmed.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:28 pm**

Robogeek1973 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I'm in.

As am I.

Elbows....what a concept.

Dadgummit! Okay, how much more than Hasbro's will this be? :BOOM:

(Yeah, I'm likely in too...)

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:30 pm**

Shipping is gonna be a bear. That box alone is huge.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:31 pm**

hinomars19 wrote:I wonder if Burn is willing to cross the bridge built by the guy who engineered this version of Scrapper?

We still don't know how they're made and what their longevity might be.

Given it's TT though I'm willing to bet they won't be flimsy.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:35 pm**

Hey Sabrblade, you called it you god of Transformers, you:

Bonecrusher has green treads, but purple interior to the treads, making a highly accurate compormise G1 cartoon color scheme. ;)^

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:35 pm**

Xephon0930 wrote:So not only does the Takara release have better paint as well as individual weapons and a removable visor,but Long Haul and Scrapper has functioning elbows?

This makes the Hasbro molds look like unfinished prototypes.

Meanwhile

Hellscream9999 wrote:Well Dragstrip looks positively garish in that full neon yellow (with no additional paint apps to break it up)

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:37 pm**

Guess who just won all the collectors' monies?

Hint: not Hasbro.

In all seriousness though, if one wants an official Devastator with all the goodies, this is the way to go. Might as well pack him in a Masterpiece box, it's that good!

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:41 pm**

Well, that is indeed a deal breaker on the Hasbro one for me. The elbows for Scrapper and Long Haul make all the difference in the world, as far as this set is considered.

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:42 pm**

Mindmaster wrote:Guess who just won all the collectors' monies?

Hint: not Hasbro.

In all seriousness though, if one wants an official Devastator with all the goodies, this is the way to go. Might as well pack him in a Masterpiece box, it's that good!

Isn't Takara actually marketing Devy in the Masterpiece line?

Posted: **Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:49 pm**

Gearslide wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Guess who just won all the collectors' monies?

Hint: not Hasbro.

In all seriousness though, if one wants an official Devastator with all the goodies, this is the way to go. Might as well pack him in a Masterpiece box, it's that good!

Isn't Takara actually marketing Devy in the Masterpiece line?

Negative. He will be released as part of the Unite Warriors line, which is the line Superion, Menasor, and Defensor are being labeled as.

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