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ZeroWolf wrote:I don't see a problem with these existing, if you don't like, don't buy. Now, as for what people think this line should be, people would still complain. Another point, all of the crossover toylines have done worked this way so far, why should this be different? Plus thus approach seems to work for some people, look at D-Max

That's true, but have the previous SW and Marvel crossover TFs been successful? In defense, the previous SW crossover figures featured pretty awful engineering, so that could be a reason moreso than the sculpts if they weren't popular.

Definitely won't be wasting my money on these things.

I have Vader coming and if it's a good figure I might consider the Falcon. The price is a big price to swallow.

Burn wrote:Definitely won't be wasting my money on these things.

I'm worried that, no matter how good these are, people will be saving/spending money on all the other TFs coming out around the same time in Japan. I think Emerjie listed the boatload of other TFs coming out in April, and my bank account is going to be emptier than a haemophiliac in a room full of needless and vampires...

Y'know, I wasn't very interested in the original SW-TF's. This new Vader got me interested, and now seeing the Falcon, I think I'm in.

Cobotron wrote:Well! Darn.
Probably going to need to have this.

Takara, you had me at Heavily Armored Wookie Warrior.

Good you're here! I was wondering what your thoughts were on these. Good to see we've got the same mindset

*Reads thread*

ZeroWolf wrote:I don't see a problem with these existing, if you don't like, don't buy.

THANK YOU.

Anyways. Personally, I love Star Wars, and the vehicles are some of the coolest parts of it. It's been some while since I've bought a SW figure or vehicle, so for me if the robot is REALLY disappointing then I'll just leave them in vehicle mode. I wouldn't mind having a bunch of Star Wars ships around.

i wonder if the deathstar is up next and who it will turn into

I'm an extremely tolerant TF fan, but I'll be the first to agree that the previous attempt of this crossover was a long trip to disapointmentsville. The Idea was sound but the execution was bad. Really bad. I didn't even mind the idea of the Organic type heads, it's just that the sculpts were atrocious.
There were two that I really liked and still have on display or still play with occasionally. Death Star Vader and a little Legends size Obi Wan. I find it really entertaining that Kenobi is off on some side quest in my Unicron Trilogy shelf. "For goodness sake! What ridiculous mission has the Counsel sent me on this time?"

But these look better to me, and I like the idea, so I'd be willing to give them a chance. The bot modes look more interesting then the old run, and these head sculpts, even though I'd like to see bigger pics, look way better to me. I trust Takara just a little more when it comes to head sculpts.

I'm fine with them turning into Star Wars characters, but I like X's idea too. It would be dope to have a Falcon that turned into Prime!

So from these tiny pictures, does Han appear to be wearing a helmet? Chewie certainly has some kind of crown or headband.

Edit: HI JAK!!!! I'm here!!!

Va'al wrote:
You mean Hanode Solo..?

Damn it Va'al why you go do this to me?


Although Anode's headsculpt is one of two things I actually like about her, the other is her vehicle mode, so this is not a deal breaker for me if I decide to get it.

Edit: I have the thing on preorder (Doesn't mean I can't cancel it)

shajaki wrote:
Anyways. Personally, I love Star Wars, and the vehicles are some of the coolest parts of it. It's been some while since I've bought a SW figure or vehicle, so for me if the robot is REALLY disappointing then I'll just leave them in vehicle mode. I wouldn't mind having a bunch of Star Wars ships around.

Isn't that like using a mallet to crack open an egg, though? These Takara SWTFs are a tad pricey. Wouldn't it be better to get a really nice SW vehicle and then a TF? Failing that, if you're into Japanese style SW things, have you seen these?



http://tamashii.jp/special/sw/lineup_mr ... eroyalgard

Va'al wrote:
You mean Hanode Solo..?

This right here. I'm not trying to be a hater, but I do not see anything in that sculpt that makes me think Han Solo.

A) He looks like he is wearing a helmet on his head
B) The chest transformation kinda pokes out like boobs
C) He has Windblade-esque high heeled boots
D) He is very clearly wearing blue booty shorts

Was this supposed to be Rey when they were engineering it? Or is this some Rule 63 female Han Solo?

Quick! Get Cheetimus on the phone! This needs to be repainted!

Just like the Hasbro line, the robot modes don't work at all.

Also, Star Wars isn't cool anymore, Disney totally destroyed Star Wars with the new trilogy. Instead of writing a good story they just copied the original trilogy & made everything bigger. Bigger Death Star, bigger AT-AT's, bigger TIE Fighters, bigger Star Destroyers. And lame characters that nobody cares about. Star Wars is a joke now.

Aimless Misfire wrote:Also, Star Wars isn't cool anymore, Disney totally destroyed Star Wars with the new trilogy. Instead of writing a good story they just copied the original trilogy & made everything bigger. Bigger Death Star, bigger AT-AT's, bigger TIE Fighters, bigger Star Destroyers. And lame characters that nobody cares about. Star Wars is a joke now.

First of all opinions, if Star Wars wasn't cool it would never have gotten as big as it has nor would it continue to be. What is a good story? Are you suggesting that a story has to be original to be good because uh hey, no matter what Star Wars movie was made it would never met your expectations.

The prequels went original and looked how they were received, there was literally nothing else they could have been done for the Force Awakens since it had to go safe because of history before hand, if you think Last Jedi was like Empire Strikes back besides a couple things that probably means you have not seen that movie in awhile.

Lame characters my arse, Kylo Ren is a better written villain then Darth Vader and the others ever were in their own movies. Again opinions Star Wars has always been a good entertaining joke, anyone who takes either Transformers or Star Wars seriously is set up to disappoint and permanently ruin the franchise for themselves.

Deadput, once again I need to remind you that you don't need to refute every damn opinion. Especially when it's not even on topic.

YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER BY NOW.

Aimless Misfire wrote:Just like the Hasbro line, the robot modes don't work at all.

Also, Star Wars isn't cool anymore, Disney totally destroyed Star Wars with the new trilogy. Instead of writing a good story they just copied the original trilogy & made everything bigger. Bigger Death Star, bigger AT-AT's, bigger TIE Fighters, bigger Star Destroyers. And lame characters that nobody cares about. Star Wars is a joke now.

What would work for robot modes though? These aren't tf characters so they need to fit in with the style of the universe while also keeping to the restrictions on the vehicles.

@PrimalxConvoy getting nice sw vehicles is tricky at certain scales, these are a lot smaller and not that much bigger than the old action fleet vehicles (which were amazing)

ZeroWolf wrote:What would work for robot modes though?

Very little. Characters like Vader, and Griveous work because their heads are "robotic" looking. Storm Troopers and Fett would work as well, except the colours of the head tended to not blend with the body. And I think that's where the biggest fail happens, slapping a big green head on a grey body. Sure, the head looks like Yoda, but it also looks like someone has chopped his head off and put it on a robotic body.

So maybe if the heads blended with the rest of the body, they might look a bit better.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Aimless Misfire wrote:Just like the Hasbro line, the robot modes don't work at all.

Also, Star Wars isn't cool anymore, Disney totally destroyed Star Wars with the new trilogy. Instead of writing a good story they just copied the original trilogy & made everything bigger. Bigger Death Star, bigger AT-AT's, bigger TIE Fighters, bigger Star Destroyers. And lame characters that nobody cares about. Star Wars is a joke now.

What would work for robot modes though? These aren't tf characters so they need to fit in with the style of the universe while also keeping to the restrictions on the vehicles.

@PrimalxConvoy getting nice sw vehicles is tricky at certain scales, these are a lot smaller and not that much bigger than the old action fleet vehicles (which were amazing)

I read that Disney shops and parks sell detailed SW vehicles for about 20 Dollars? Might be worth a look.

Surprisingly, Google was bereft of good mech and robot versions of Star Wars characters for me. Here's what I could find.



And @Burn, I agree. That's why they need to make mechs that homage the character, rather than look like the character. Some of the colours of the clothes, skin, can etc would be fine, but things like weapons, motifs painted in the side, etc should be used, too.

Two words.

Human Alliance.

The vehicle can transform and it can have a head that fits in, and you also have it's "human" counterpart.

That would be fun too. But then it's bordering on being a "true" crossover.

Burn wrote:Two words.

Human Alliance.

The vehicle can transform and it can have a head that fits in, and you also have it's "human" counterpart.

That would be fun too. But then it's bordering on being a "true" crossover.

Great idea! I really wish MP had merged with Binaltech, and then the film Human Alliance toys would have continued that trend. Then, we could have had GI-Joe/Action Force, MASK toys, etc in that scale, too (in their own respective toy lines). Even if any of these were sold every now and then, as exclusives, it would eventually add up to a coincidental full range of toys that shared play styles.

Failing they, in sure Titanmaster style figures could do a similar thing. Plus, if they released Star Wars vehicles like the old Micro Machines/Galoob line, and MASK/GI-Joe figures/vehicles too, they're could be some great base-building, cross-play opportunities too.

Oh well...

Well the pilot figures for these do look action fleet sized, it's a shame the micro machines that hasbro brought out for force awakens weren't as good as the old ones.

Rated X wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Hotconvoy wrote:That is just sad

Out of curiosity, why is it sad? Is it just because you don't like the idea? While the actual idea isn't the best, I love the engineeringthat goes into these as there isn't a lot of space to play around with on the iconic vehicle designs of star wars

I agree it is sad..

Those who dont learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

The concept is just dumb. It was dumb then and its still dumb now. How cool would it have been if they just focused on the vehicles to homage Star Wars and let the robot modes homage actual Transformers characters? Then they would be true "Transformers" crossovers, rather than just on the sole basis that they can transform. Right now they're no more "Transformers" than a Gobot. The one thing they are not is Transformers crossovers.

Imagine tie fighter seekers, vader tie fighter megatron, x wing fighter optimus, cloud speeder bumblebee, milenium falcon ironhide, slave 1 soundwave, death star unicron, so many possibilities. But instead they give us robots wearing circus masks....twice.

They're not meant to be crossovers in that way. The idea is "Star Wars powered by Transformers", like if Cybertronian technology somehow ended up in a galaxy far far away. To make say, a Trypticon Star Destroyer would be neat, but it'd be completely outside the line's intentions. Now, I will agree that the concept is rather absurd, but the toys aren't actually that bad, all things considered.

Via the Japanese branch of online retailer Amazon.com, we have some larger and new images of the Takara Star Wars Powered by Transformers crossover series figure 02: the Millennium Falcon! An update to the previous figure of the same vehicle from years ago, the surfacing of the listing is topical given the recent reveal of a new Han Solo spin-off movie trailer (for those keeping track), but the images specifically show us the front and rear of each of the two robot modes of Chewbacca and Solo that combine into the spaceship, plus more looks at the latter and the minifigures included of the two space scoundrels - including the impressive shoulders on Chewie and the backpack kibble on Han, who also shares resemblance in the facesculpt with recent IDW Publishing Transformers newcomer Anode.

Check them all out mirrored below, and head here for the listing, as the figure is set for release in June!

The whole concept is one big turd.

Actually kind of cool looking.

Better than the last attempt, but WHOOF that is one kibbly Han Solo.