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bvzxa wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP

As a heads up, we have been emailing and PMing Hasbro about this from our FB group. The admin of the group has spoken to Hasbro on several occasions. One thing is certain he is NOT a Hasbro rep or in any way associated with Hasbro. PvP can never officially state that he is and that is 100% facts.

Thank you for the additional information, however, I think you've triple posted here, when all you needed was the one reply?

For the last time, keep discussion strictly to the Rise of the Beast toyline. This is not the thread for anything regarding PvP or any other reviewer like him.

primalxconvoy wrote:

bvzxa wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP

As a heads up, we have been emailing and PMing Hasbro about this from our FB group. The admin of the group has spoken to Hasbro on several occasions. One thing is certain he is NOT a Hasbro rep or in any way associated with Hasbro. PvP can never officially state that he is and that is 100% facts.

Thank you for the additional information, however, I think you've triple posted here, when all you needed was the one reply?

I replied as a see fit. Sorry not sorry that offended you.

Primal looks both good and kinda ridiculous, and I love it. He looks good! Also digging the design on Optimus still, it looks good.

Chefatron came upon another Rise of the Beasts toy. We had Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal and now we have Bumblebee in his Offroad mode. We do not know the exact class of this toy but it is aimed at kids, as are all toys in the Rise of the Beasts movie line (there may be Studio Series toys of these designs released later). While the alt mode does have Camarro features, it does seem to have more height than the vehicle we saw on set. You can compare with the set photo below.

These photos/review give us a good look at what to expect from Bumblebee's robot mode in the film. It still keeps a lot of the traditional Bayverse Bee designs, such as the layers of metal, the blaster and the face, while also being smoother in certain areas. You'll let us know what you think!

That looks pretty nice, actually! We don’t know if this is what Bee will look like in the final movie, but I like that we’re seeing more Bayverse elements like the plasma cannon and armor pieces on the arm while still being something new.

The flip-out Plasma cannon in particular is really neat!

Quite mediocre figure.
The alt mode is nice but the robot mode is ugly, with that huge backpack and the doors standing stiff backward.
It's clear that this is a kids oriented line, but it's a bit too plain even for kids (and actually, I think in the hands of a kid those doors will surely break in that position)

Barricade.it wrote:Quite mediocre figure.
The alt mode is nice but the robot mode is ugly, with that huge backpack and the doors standing stiff backward.
It's clear that this is a kids oriented line, but it's a bit too plain even for kids (and actually, I think in the hands of a kid those doors will surely break in that position)

Looking at the transformation, it looks too complicated for kids as well. That bit about unpegging the lower half and replugging it in a tiny tab within the shell looks far too minutia a step for a kid who'd be fine with a toy of this limited articulation. The Primal is the better of these toys with the complexity being well in tune with the look and simplicity of the toy for an overal fun exprience.

It's way too silly of me to even think this would happen but is it wrong that i was honestly hoping that they'd change 'Bee's face? It's not the worst of the Bayverse noggins but I was really hoping we'd have something more akin to G1 BB. (Not because I'm a Geewunner, I do genuinely like a lot of the Bayverse designs but BB's face never really appealed to me.)

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:The flip-out Plasma cannon in particular is really neat!

It is neat. They had it in that AOE/TLK deluxe Bee and now even the younger kids can enjoy that.

Good grief! That looks like garbage!!

When I was a child, I had G1 toys, which is why I'm still a huge fan. If these were the toys I had back then, I don't think I'd be a fan now.

transformers_va wrote:Good grief! That looks like garbage!!

When I was a child, I had G1 toys, which is why I'm still a huge fan. If these were the toys I had back then, I don't think I'd be a fan now.

Your toys had better articulation?

SpaceEagle wrote:It's way too silly of me to even think this would happen but is it wrong that i was honestly hoping that they'd change 'Bee's face? It's not the worst of the Bayverse noggins but I was really hoping we'd have something more akin to G1 BB. (Not because I'm a Geewunner, I do genuinely like a lot of the Bayverse designs but BB's face never really appealed to me.)

I hated the Bayverse' BB face. Too skeletal. However I did like the versions that he had the faceplate on. I didn't find the change they did to BB's face in his own movie, but it looked much better and I at least am not hating it.

william-james88 wrote:

transformers_va wrote:Good grief! That looks like garbage!!

When I was a child, I had G1 toys, which is why I'm still a huge fan. If these were the toys I had back then, I don't think I'd be a fan now.

Your toys had better articulation?

No, my toys did not "has" better articulation, but they did HAVE better quality, better designs, better transformations, etc. (of course, this is all imo) That thing in the picture looks like the kiddie toys from McDonald's

Bumblebee is looking good,he seems easy to transform!Also,I like how these simplified toys have improved their proportions over time.The sculpt looks detailed.

Day 821 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

I'm curious if that design is based on concept art or if the extra cage around it was just to skirt licensing. I guess we'll know if it has a GM logo or whatever on the back of the package.

Emerje

transformers_va wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

transformers_va wrote:Good grief! That looks like garbage!!

When I was a child, I had G1 toys, which is why I'm still a huge fan. If these were the toys I had back then, I don't think I'd be a fan now.

Your toys had better articulation?

No, my toys did not "has" better articulation, but they did HAVE better quality, better designs, better transformations, etc. (of course, this is all imo) That thing in the picture looks like the kiddie toys from McDonald's

I will say that the original figures had a certain "quality" to them the today's toys do not, back then they felt almost real due to the metal parts etc. creating sharp lines and detail. While today most of them come off looing cheaply made. That said, I really like how the articulation has evolved beyond them looking like a stilt statue as well as the how much the detail has improved with head sculpts.

So this is why I'm often conflicted on whether to buy the new stuff or not, it almost feels like a trade off in quality over function. Yet I still wouldn't prefer OG G1 figures over what's being made today.

Till-all-R1 wrote:

transformers_va wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

transformers_va wrote:Good grief! That looks like garbage!!

When I was a child, I had G1 toys, which is why I'm still a huge fan. If these were the toys I had back then, I don't think I'd be a fan now.

Your toys had better articulation?

No, my toys did not "has" better articulation, but they did HAVE better quality, better designs, better transformations, etc. (of course, this is all imo) That thing in the picture looks like the kiddie toys from McDonald's

I will say that the original figures had a certain "quality" to them the today's toys do not, back then they felt almost real due to the metal parts etc. creating sharp lines and detail. While today most of them come off looing cheaply made. That said, I really like how the articulation has evolved beyond them looking like a stilt statue as well as the how much the detail has improved with head sculpts.

So this is why I'm often conflicted on whether to buy the new stuff or not, it almost feels like a trade off in quality over function. Yet I still wouldn't prefer OG G1 figures over what's being made today.

Transformations improved as well and today's toys no longer have partsforming fists. Plus they look closer to the show and have better proportions. And people like to bring up the metal component, which I admit is cool and invokes some type of quality, but it wasn't present throughout most of G1, just the beginning. Honestly, if G1 toys like Optimus and Starscream which had a kid needing to keep their hands stored somewhere have become so beloved and inspired fans to collect for life, then so can these ROTB toys aimed at younger kids.

Not to mention the lack of stickers to make fake details (aside from in Titans Return) in modern toys. And really, Bumblebee is just as complex as the majority of G1 figures.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Not to mention the lack of stickers to make fake details (aside from in Titans Return) in modern toys. And really, Bumblebee is just as complex as the majority of G1 figures.

Emerje

He's more complex. The sad truth is that if Hasbro released figures today that had the same articulation, complexity, proportions and as screen innacurate as G1 figures but for a new show, most collectors would complain, call foul, and say that these look like Happy Meal toys.

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Not to mention the lack of stickers to make fake details (aside from in Titans Return) in modern toys. And really, Bumblebee is just as complex as the majority of G1 figures.

Emerje

He's more complex. The sad truth is that if Hasbro released figures today that had the same articulation, complexity, proportions and as screen innacurate as G1 figures but for a new show, most collectors would complain, call foul, and say that these look like Happy Meal toys.

So basically Beast Machines.

Emerje

I like that Bee, I really like it a lot. I can't wait for these figures to hit.

That toy gives me more hope for the movie. I love how the design looks. It's a good sign for me

They're supposed to drop this month, any word?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:They're supposed to drop this month, any word?

Word is they got pushed to fall release in new cyberverse packaging. These figures are not in ports at the moment.