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Optimum Supreme wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:While not the hardest, RTS Tracks has always given me trouble going back to vehicle mode, specifically getting the trunk to close over the arms. I keep forgetting every time I haven't messed with him in a while that the trunk doesn't close over the arms like it's supposed to, and instead you have to unbend the elbows and attach the forearms to the top of the trunk piece so the arms close WITH the trunk instead.

Have you ever had to transform alternators Tracks? Makes RTS Tracks look like a jumpstarter.

I exaggerate, but yeah, alternators Tracks way harder than RTS. But I guess that's just how alternators were. I found Smokescreen to be pretty hard as well.

Alternators Tracks was a long time ago for me, but I don't remember him having any specific spot that tripped me up repeatedly the way I wound up hitting my head against this one. In fact, I have vague memories of Tracks being easy cmpared to some of the other Alternators, and don't even get me STARTED on the Human Alliance toys.

shajaki wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:While not the hardest, RTS Tracks has always given me trouble going back to vehicle mode, specifically getting the trunk to close over the arms. I keep forgetting every time I haven't messed with him in a while that the trunk doesn't close over the arms like it's supposed to, and instead you have to unbend the elbows and attach the forearms to the top of the trunk piece so the arms close WITH the trunk instead.

Have you ever had to transform alternators Tracks? Makes RTS Tracks look like a jumpstarter.

I exaggerate, but yeah, alternators Tracks way harder than RTS. But I guess that's just how alternators were. I found Smokescreen to be pretty hard as well.

i cant say youre wrong, but i had more trouble with RTS tracks than ALT/BT tracks. same issue too, arms in the trunk.

Yeah, Alternators tracks is one of the alternator molds I find somehow the most intuitive, but that's like saying which miss america contestant is the least hot. What I find nuts about Alternators tracks is how hard you have to pull the front section of the car to disconnect it from the body. Only MP Megs' shouldrers need more force to unlodge.

Animated Ratchet. Not because of complexity, but because the back half of the ambulance just won't stay pegged together. The pegs on his feet don't fit properly and always pop apart, causing the back plate to pop off, and it's really not helped at all by the fact that the legs don't like to stay attached to the body- the hip joints are stronger than the mushroom pegs on his thigh swivels, which come disconnected ALL THE TIME.

Ugh.

Delta Magnus wrote:Animated Ratchet. Not because of complexity, but because the back half of the ambulance just won't stay pegged together. The pegs on his feet don't fit properly and always pop apart, causing the back plate to pop off, and it's really not helped at all by the fact that the legs don't like to stay attached to the body- the hip joints are stronger than the mushroom pegs on his thigh swivels, which come disconnected ALL THE TIME.

Ugh.

He's the only autobot from that line I am missing, for a reason!

I had a lot of trouble with RotF Mixmaster. Once I figured out how to do it, it was really fun. That is the one that sticks in my mind from the last few years.

Prime Riblet wrote:I had a lot of trouble with RotF Mixmaster. Once I figured out how to do it, it was really fun. That is the one that sticks in my mind from the last few years.

Oh, don't get me started, ESPECIALLY on that "third mode" of his. Why is it so difficult to transform him into a seemingly-random pile of parts?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Prime Riblet wrote:I had a lot of trouble with RotF Mixmaster. Once I figured out how to do it, it was really fun. That is the one that sticks in my mind from the last few years.

Oh, don't get me started, ESPECIALLY on that "third mode" of his. Why is it so difficult to transform him into a seemingly-random pile of parts?

I agree with Prime Riblet, I just got Mixmaster and I had trouble transforming him from robot to alt mode the first time but its been fun since. I was glad to finally own this mold and take a crack at it, just so I can confirm that Binaltech Grimlock is still the most difficult transformer I have.

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Animated Ratchet. Not because of complexity, but because the back half of the ambulance just won't stay pegged together. The pegs on his feet don't fit properly and always pop apart, causing the back plate to pop off, and it's really not helped at all by the fact that the legs don't like to stay attached to the body- the hip joints are stronger than the mushroom pegs on his thigh swivels, which come disconnected ALL THE TIME.

Ugh.

He's the only autobot from that line I am missing, for a reason!

Oh man, you must have gotten a bad one, aside from the sucky single-magnet hands, he's awesome! Or, mine is awesome.

While we're talking about animated deluxes that shouldn't be hard to transform, am I the only one that can't transform Bumblebee to car without a YouTube video? Get his chest/torso to bend correctly is really really hard. And animated Blurr and those damn legs.

Am I the only one who can never remember how to transform ROTF Long haul's legs when going into vehicle mode. It's like he's doing yoga bending every hinge in the opposite way you'd think it was meant to go.

How about G-1 Topspin and Twin Twist? They always confounded me.

Optimus Eeyore wrote:How about G-1 Topspin and Twin Twist? They always confounded me.

I am actually having a bunch of trouble with top spin right now. He wont stay closed in alt mode. This makes him the one transformer I have which I cannot transform at the moment.

Let me see

ROTF Voyager Mixmaster
DOTM Leader Sentinel Prime
Toyworld Orion you have to everything in a specific order
Generations Rattrap

DarkEnergon wrote:aside from the sucky single-magnet hands, he's awesome!

I'll let that slide because I don't think it would have been possible to engineer hands with show-accurate magnets.

Rodimus Minor wrote:Let me see

ROTF Voyager Mixmaster
DOTM Leader Sentinel Prime
Toyworld Orion you have to everything in a specific order
Generations Rattrap

Mixmaster could be confusing. Mainly because he's a random monster instead of a humanoid robot. I've yet to try to transform him back into vehicle mode because he's still deep in a box from my moving.

DotM Leader Sentinel Prime is not hard at all. He just need a bit of "pannels massage" when turning into a truck.

Never owned a TW Orion and I dont plan to so I cannot say anything.

Gen Rattrap is fiddly but fun.


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Right now,what are the hardest TF to transform for me are the ones with a Cybertronian altmode which is a big pile of nonsensical nothing. Meaning, it's clear what a robot is, but turning into a "vehicle" is a nightmare because I usually have no idea what the hell the thing turn into:

-- Animated voyager Megatron
-- Movie 2007 Leader Megatron

Both of those are absolute garbage and are a nightmare to transform with a very, very disapointing result.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Minor wrote:Let me see

ROTF Voyager Mixmaster
DOTM Leader Sentinel Prime
Toyworld Orion you have to everything in a specific order
Generations Rattrap

Mixmaster could be confusing. Mainly because he's a random monster instead of a humanoid robot. I've yet to try to transform him back into vehicle mode because he's still deep in a box from my moving.

DotM Leader Sentinel Prime is not hard at all. He just need a bit of "pannels massage" when turning into a truck.

Never owned a TW Orion and I dont plan to so I cannot say anything.

Gen Rattrap is fiddly but fun.


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Right now,what are the hardest TF to transform for me are the ones with a Cybertronian altmode which is a big pile of nonsensical nothing. Meaning, it's clear what a robot is, but turning into a "vehicle" is a nightmare because I usually have no idea what the hell the thing turn into:

-- Animated voyager Megatron
-- Movie 2007 Leader Megatron

Both of those are absolute garbage and are a nightmare to transform with a very, very disapointing result.

I do enjoy Transforming Rattrap he is just a pain sometimes.
Wow you find DOTM Leader Sentinal Easy wow you must be a Wizard at transformations

Rodimus Minor wrote:I do enjoy Transforming Rattrap he is just a pain sometimes.
Wow you find DOTM Leader Sentinal Easy wow you must be a Wizard at transformations

Not so much!

If the toy have a distinct altmode, once you understand two principles, you can transform anything with ease. Some transformations are longer than others, but they are not hard.

1) Align the panels.
2) The peg go into the hole.

That's it! Once you master those two basic facts, even RotF Long Haul, ROtF Leader Optimus Prime, Cybertronian generations Bumblebee, and other TF mentionned become easy to transform.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Minor wrote:I do enjoy Transforming Rattrap he is just a pain sometimes.
Wow you find DOTM Leader Sentinal Easy wow you must be a Wizard at transformations

Not so much!

If the toy have a distinct altmode, once you understand two principles, you can transform anything with ease. Some transformations are longer than others, but they are not hard.

1) Align the panels.
2) The peg go into the hole.

That's it! Once you master those two basic facts, even RotF Long Haul, ROtF Leader Optimus Prime, Cybertronian generations Bumblebee, and other TF mentionned become easy to transform.

I have no problem transforming Cybertron mode BB or ROTF Longhaul Leader optimus can be tricky but I get it done

Rodimus Minor wrote:I have no problem transforming Cybertron mode BB or ROTF Longhaul Leader optimus can be tricky but I get it done

So, if ROTF Leader OP is not too bad (One of the hardest TF to transform ever) what's so hard about DOTM Leader Sentinel Prime?

I've been going back to some transformers I had not transformed in a while. Binaltech Grimlock give me the most trouble, of course, but second place for me would go to RTS Wreck Garr. His robot mode is phenominal but I can never get him to look like a perfect bike. The way the mid section is made is not very smart (with the connecting feet), and there is so much undercarriage in the front that the resulting pressure is immense between the front wheel and the bike. I can never get the wheel to properly connect to the handle bar section. Also, the handles themselves have a wierd lock in mechanism that can break easily. I just broke mine. But its ok, he just looks a bit more junkish. I think I will transform him again in robot mode and leave him that way.

Okay, one you probably never thought you'd see in this thread: Underbite. 1-step RiD Underbite. He gave me some real problems today. Oh, transforming him was easy as advertised, but be careful what you move or you'll mess up the alignment or something, and then he'll refuse to stay transformed. I eventually managed to fix it, but hell if I know what did the trick, I just fiddled with the parts and hoped.

I have a lot of trouble with Universe Hot Shot. To be perfectly honest, it frustrated me enough that I might have thrown it. I might have stepped on it, but I can't remember. I just wasn't in the mood to deal with the little sucker, I guess. There was something about that figure that I immediately hated.

Prime Riblet wrote:I have a lot of trouble with Universe Hot Shot. To be perfectly honest, it frustrated me enough that I might have thrown it. I might have stepped on it, but I can't remember. I just wasn't in the mood to deal with the little sucker, I guess. There was something about that figure that I immediately hated.

shame too. it would have been a great figure if it werent for those odd shoulder thingys. and theres almost nowhere for the minicon to go!

Prime Riblet wrote:There was something about that figure that I immediately hated.

The fact that is was Hotshot?

william-james88 wrote:

Prime Riblet wrote:There was something about that figure that I immediately hated.

The fact that is was Hotshot?

Maybe he's allergic to JaAm?

Later yesterday evening after my last post in this thread, I dropped Underbite and had to go through the same thing all over again. Grrr.