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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:20 am
by william-james88
DeathReviews wrote:Keeping fingers crossed that they will have made enough of these things that everybody who wants one can get it... (for a decent price)


If its any indication fo last year, than anyone in the states will, unless they hibernate in may.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:11 am
by william-james88
Hey guys, remember that CW Ratchet head we saw a while back. Well it's being usd for CW Rathet, who is the Botcon cusom class exclusive (like Galva Convoy last year). Meaning he wont be coming to retail. And they are using that for a bunch of ratchets.

So Memphis, will this break your Combiner Wars Mold Chart?


Marvel G1 Ratchet

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G2 Ratchet

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Rescue Bot Medix

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G1 Ratchet

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There is also SG Rathet in this shot of all 5 toys:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:13 am
by Sabrblade
That last one isn't SG Ratchet (he's missing from your post). There are two G1 Ratchets to choose from. Marvel colors (red helmet, white crest) and Cartoon colors (white helmet, black crest).

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:02 pm
by Agamemnon
Yeah, that kinda sucks for me as I was hoping to keep Ironhide and Ratchet together in a CW display. On the other hand, I wondered if Hasbro would ever have released Ratchet given how closely he would have likely matched First Aid. Back on the first hand, with Prowl and Streetwise both coming out and sharing a mold, I still thought there was a chance...

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:22 pm
by william-james88
Agamemnon wrote:Yeah, that kinda sucks for me as I was hoping to keep Ironhide and Ratchet together in a CW display. On the other hand, I wondered if Hasbro would ever have released Ratchet given how closely he would have likely matched First Aid. Back on the first hand, with Prowl and Streetwise both coming out and sharing a mold, I still thought there was a chance...


Are you handy with a paint brush and do you have a club membership? I have neither so I am screwed all the way, but if you have those then all hope is not lost. These figures are available on their website store later. However, it will be unpainted with no stickers. But autobot stickers arent hard to come by and ratchet just needs some red and black in certain areas to work. It will cost you double retail for an unpainted figure, I will grant you that, but its not impossible to own.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:37 pm
by Agamemnon
william-james88 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Yeah, that kinda sucks for me as I was hoping to keep Ironhide and Ratchet together in a CW display. On the other hand, I wondered if Hasbro would ever have released Ratchet given how closely he would have likely matched First Aid. Back on the first hand, with Prowl and Streetwise both coming out and sharing a mold, I still thought there was a chance...


Are you handy with a paint brush and do you have a club membership? I have neither so I am screwed all the way, but if you have those then all hope is not lost. These figures are available on their website store later. However, it will be unpainted with no stickers. But autobot stickers arent hard to come by and ratchet just needs some red and black in certain areas to work. It will cost you double retail for an unpainted figure, I will grant you that, but its not impossible to own.

Yeah, I'm not a club member. I spend too much on plastic crack as it is. And really, maybe I was a bit too strong in the wording that this sucks. More, I am disappointed, but not enough to get one and paint it myself. (I have done some model painting, but not for a number of years.)

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:56 pm
by william-james88
Agamemnon wrote:Yeah, I'm not a club member. I spend too much on plastic crack as it is. And really, maybe I was a bit too strong in the wording that this sucks. More, I am disappointed, but not enough to get one and paint it myself. (I have done some model painting, but not for a number of years.)


Would there have been a middle gound (like a pricey exclusive that you dont have to paint) or is it that you would only have gotten this if it was a normal retail figure? I will tll you what I think sucks a bit: this Ratchet looks more like Ratchet than CW Ironhide looks like Ironhide. And I actually preffer the first air mode for some reason (the arms sure peg better for arms mode) so it kind of blows that its the other mold we got doubles of at retail. Also, neither of the two we got at retail actually represent a G1 characer properly. Offroad is a new character and Ironhide's alt mode is movie themed with a G1 pallette. While the van is perfect for Ratchet and First Aid.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:00 pm
by Agamemnon
william-james88 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Yeah, I'm not a club member. I spend too much on plastic crack as it is. And really, maybe I was a bit too strong in the wording that this sucks. More, I am disappointed, but not enough to get one and paint it myself. (I have done some model painting, but not for a number of years.)


Would there have been a middle gound (like a pricey exclusive that you dont have to paint) or is it that you would only have gotten this if it was a normal retail figure? I will tll you what I think sucks a bit: this Ratchet looks more like Ratchet than CW Ironhide looks like Ironhide. And I actually preffer the first air mode for some reason (the arms sure peg better for arms mode) so it kind of blows that its the other mold we got doubles of at retail. Also, neither of the two we got at retail actually represent a G1 characer properly. Offroad is a new character and Ironhide's alt mode is movie themed with a G1 pallette. While the van is perfect for Ratchet and First Aid.

I would have preferred Ironhide as the First Aid mold too. I also would have preferred a regular retail release (of course!) but if this was an exclusive, say for around $30 USD.....maybe? If he would have been released in May Madness with Groove, I probably would have jumped.

I think what is bugging me is the completionist in me. I had expected an eventual Ratchet after seeing Ironhide. But I'm not too put out...

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:00 pm
by Rainmaker
Did anyone bother to buy Armada Megatron or is it just a shelfwarmer?

:MAXIMAL:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:35 pm
by DecepticonFinishline
Sold out, while I was at work, before I even had a chance to see it! Uggggggggggggghhhhh!!!!

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Did anyone bother to buy Armada Megatron or is it just a shelfwarmer?

:MAXIMAL:


I did, but I'm a completionist. If I'm honest, I like that one more than the G1-ish Megatron.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:48 pm
by Insurgent
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Sold out, while I was at work, before I even had a chance to see it! Uggggggggggggghhhhh!!!!

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Did anyone bother to buy Armada Megatron or is it just a shelfwarmer?

:MAXIMAL:


I did, but I'm a completionist. If I'm honest, I like that one more than the G1-ish Megatron.



I feel that looks too much like G1 megatron cosplaying as Armada Megs. The Takara show exclusive does a nicer job of the paint arrangement on the chest.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:02 pm
by kurthy
[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Did anyone bother to buy Armada Megatron or is it just a shelfwarmer?

:MAXIMAL:


I bought one for my son (he liked it without having seen Armada), then I picked up a real Armada Meg for him for Christmas and he hasn't looked at the CW since. :roll:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:13 pm
by Agamemnon
[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Did anyone bother to buy Armada Megatron or is it just a shelfwarmer?

:MAXIMAL:

I bought him and am using him as a stand-in for Trannis...

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:30 pm
by Rodimus Prime
If CW Armada Megatron didn't have the hedge clipper ears and had the G1 version's head, he could pass for G2 Megatron, which is what he should have been.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:29 pm
by Mr Skram
Rodimus Prime wrote:If CW Armada Megatron didn't have the hedge clipper ears and had the G1 version's head, he could pass for G2 Megatron, which is what he should have been.


Oh man, I wish they would have done that. Totally would have bought it for my brother since he had G2 Megs until recently. Little destructive cousin of his step son tore the freaking head off of it. Was a damn shame because it was in awesome condition still.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:58 am
by D-Maximal_Primal
Computron and Liokaiser can be found here: http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ser/35114/

This is to start some Computron and Liokaiser discussion over here in the actual combiner wars thread.

Well, with the reveal of the Hasbro version in whole, I am still on the fence. Hasbro for me is much cheaper that takara. Hasbro to me has the better looking Strafe. Takara has the far better individual modes for the other 3 limbs, but the issue with that Nosecone to me makes for a bad looking leg with that massive lump below his knee, whereas the combined Hasbro Nosecone makes for such a better silhouette even if the individual is complete crap. I also love the new tooling on Scattershot that is evident on Computron. So yeah, that's where we stand. I will display these guys combined pretty much all the time, so it really comes down to those versions, and both have ups and downs.

also, the fact that we are getting a Liokaiser is pretty sweet. Still waiting on an official reveal, but it is very cool they are doing one :MAXIMAL:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:16 pm
by Kurona
I really hope we get a good picture of Liokaiser soon; rn as is he's like impossible to make out. It's still really nice we're getting him but it still feels... really weird that he's made up of five guys now instead of six. Which is a shame because he and Deathsaurus are the only guys I really like from Victory (I do enjoy Star Saber in IDW though).

I do wonder why on earth they decided to display Liokaiser with extended tank legs though. If people try to do that he's just gonna fall over hilariously.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:19 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Well, since both of his legs are tank molds, that means he can flip down that part on both and stay level. Now it does look hilarious and somewhat bad that way, but this is a first image. Plus, maybe they are trying to give him some extra height to make him more imposing :MAXIMAL:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:20 pm
by Kurona
Something else that's a little confusing and disappointing is that Liokaiser seems to be a boxset... yet he has the usual HFGs rather than Victorion or Computron's special hands and feet. Unless this is a photo of an earlier stage in production I'm not entirely sure why they're doing that...

Also, new targetmaster partner it looks like?

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:33 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Looks like something new in his left hand, but can't really tell. :MAXIMAL:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:39 pm
by Sowndwave76
I do like the Hasbro Strafe Alt mode quite a bit. Think that looks pretty cool.
Where this version of Computron falls short for me:
Nosecone and Lightyear altmodes
The lack of a new head/chest for Comp
The lack of new head sculpts for the individual bots.
The mish-mash colors of both individual figures and Comp.
Nice that Afterburner has some Orange, but for me there's too much red, black (or dark gray), and that green windshield is not good.

And I do stand corrected-- the new hands and feet do match the darker red of the torso/head.

I get if people like and want the Hasbro version, but for not that much more, I think there are a lot of improvements with the UW version that are well worth it.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:27 pm
by Rainmaker
Rodimus Prime wrote:If CW Armada Megatron didn't have the hedge clipper ears and had the G1 version's head, he could pass for G2 Megatron, which is what he should have been.


OMG YES! After all the G2 Combiners they didn't think of doing any other toys as G2? G2 Megs is awesome and I really want an updated figure for it. :BOWDOWN:

:MAXIMAL:

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:33 pm
by Bumblebee21
I found wreck gar
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:44 pm
by Kurona
Bumblebee21 wrote:I found wreck gar
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Nice. Finding him any good? Tried connecting him to Sky Reign yet if you have him?

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:51 pm
by william-james88
Gearslide wrote:Just in case anyone wanted some nice comparison of the fresh Hasbro and Takara stock photos:

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