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Nemesis Primal wrote:

The Thuggernaut wrote:

Autobot tap out wrote:Both me and fanboy David Willis would be really happy if it was a five pack with RID hot shot , Armada hot shot with jolt energon hot shot Cybertron hot shot and
AOE hot shot and maybe animated

Universe Hot Shot and the speculated AOE Hot Shot would be a buy for me, and it would make the most sense to me. To be honest though I don't expect it to happen. I'll be pleasantly surprised if it does.

Given the size of the toys they're using for the Evolutions deluxe packs, it'd probably have to be either RID Spychanger Hot Shot or Cybertron Legends-sized Hot Shot.

And did Animated Hot Shot's toy even make it to the point where it was anywhere near ready for mass-production before they ended Animated?

Hot Shot only got to the point of a resin prototype, I doubt they would be able to finish it off and market it though

The Thuggernaut wrote:Hot Shot only got to the point of a resin prototype, I doubt they would be able to finish it off and market it though

That's what I thought. Damn shame, really.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

The Thuggernaut wrote:Hot Shot only got to the point of a resin prototype, I doubt they would be able to finish it off and market it though

That's what I thought. Damn shame, really.

It is a shame, those figures look promising! That Megatron especially

The Thuggernaut wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

The Thuggernaut wrote:

Autobot tap out wrote:Both me and fanboy David Willis would be really happy if it was a five pack with RID hot shot , Armada hot shot with jolt energon hot shot Cybertron hot shot and
AOE hot shot and maybe animated

Universe Hot Shot and the speculated AOE Hot Shot would be a buy for me, and it would make the most sense to me. To be honest though I don't expect it to happen. I'll be pleasantly surprised if it does.

Given the size of the toys they're using for the Evolutions deluxe packs, it'd probably have to be either RID Spychanger Hot Shot or Cybertron Legends-sized Hot Shot.

And did Animated Hot Shot's toy even make it to the point where it was anywhere near ready for mass-production before they ended Animated?

Hot Shot only got to the point of a resin prototype, I doubt they would be able to finish it off and market it though

the Thuggernaught wrote:Given the size of the toys they're using for the Evolutions deluxe packs, it'd probably have to be either RID Spychanger Hot Shot or Cybertron Legends-sized Hot Shot.

well what i was talikng about is what they did for Bumblebee for the first movies toy linethat they used classics, movie , and animated deluxe class figures but doing it in a five pack for Hot Shot

Autobot tap out wrote:

The Thuggernaut wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

The Thuggernaut wrote:

Autobot tap out wrote:Both me and fanboy David Willis would be really happy if it was a five pack with RID hot shot , Armada hot shot with jolt energon hot shot Cybertron hot shot and
AOE hot shot and maybe animated

Universe Hot Shot and the speculated AOE Hot Shot would be a buy for me, and it would make the most sense to me. To be honest though I don't expect it to happen. I'll be pleasantly surprised if it does.

Given the size of the toys they're using for the Evolutions deluxe packs, it'd probably have to be either RID Spychanger Hot Shot or Cybertron Legends-sized Hot Shot.

And did Animated Hot Shot's toy even make it to the point where it was anywhere near ready for mass-production before they ended Animated?

Hot Shot only got to the point of a resin prototype, I doubt they would be able to finish it off and market it though

the Thuggernaught wrote:Given the size of the toys they're using for the Evolutions deluxe packs, it'd probably have to be either RID Spychanger Hot Shot or Cybertron Legends-sized Hot Shot.

well what i was talikng about is what they did for Bumblebee for the first movies toy linethat they used classics, movie , and animated deluxe class figures but doing it in a five pack for Hot Shot

Oh,I see what you mean. That would be cool but I'm not sure how the character Hot Shot would sell well compared to what I like to call, AOE's big 3; Optimus Prime, Grimlock, and Bumblebee.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:Definitely want to grab that Grimlock. Not as Grimmy himself, but as an addition to the Terrorcon troops. I'd love to have 2 or 3 Abominuses.

I still say they should have recolored Rippersnapper into Scorn rather than Grimlock, but whatevs. Might pick this one anways, I like the Prime Predacons. (Predaking better be back at some point in RID, BTW.)

LeL wrote:hope the weapon attaches to his face.

I'll settle for a hook.

... eeeh actually abominus and the horrorcons/terrorcons were never prime predacons, they belong to transformers GO, just wrong package, and came in G1 colors as a teaser, just like happened before many times... hasbro doen't pay much attention on packing

Madeus Prime wrote:

Wasp-shot23 wrote:My trousers are now in orbit.

Finally, a toyline with more than one possible iteration of Hot Shot! Think of the potential "Then and Now" 2 packs or original faithful repaints or one-step changers...
I'll just slip into a coma cos my wildest wish for the AOE line has just been fulfilled.

This is truly the big time. A golden age.

What a time to be alive.



Just, please, for the love of god, don't die horribly in the film cos I might start weeping in the cinema.

*Blink*



*Blink*


I don't mean to be rude here, but your theory about this being a Golden age?

This isn't a golden age:



This is a GOLDEN AGE:

No-one seems to understand my humour here.
I love Hot Shot. To have him return in any form in any line gets me going.
I refer to a golden age for Hot Shots specifically.

BERSEKAEL wrote:... eeeh actually abominus and the horrorcons/terrorcons were never prime predacons, they belong to transformers GO, just wrong package, and came in G1 colors as a teaser, just like happened before many times... hasbro doen't pay much attention on packing

It took me a minute to realize you were trolling.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:... eeeh actually abominus and the horrorcons/terrorcons were never prime predacons, they belong to transformers GO, just wrong package, and came in G1 colors as a teaser, just like happened before many times... hasbro doen't pay much attention on packing

It took me a minute to realize you were trolling.

sorry my bad, I mean this abominus from transformers GO and his teaser in G1 colors, packed as PRIME series

I just picked up AoE Voyager Galvatron from Walmart, and I must say I like it. At 1st I didn't care for the robot mode, it was strictly the vehicle mode that sold it for me. But turns out the robot mode is actually pretty solid, and would be pretty cool if that giant hole wasn't in the middle of his chest. The vehicle mode is pretty cool, as I expected, except the feet that form the trailer hitch (or whatever) don't stay together well. I noticed he's bit larger than the previous movie Voyager Megatrons.

BERSEKAEL wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:... eeeh actually abominus and the horrorcons/terrorcons were never prime predacons, they belong to transformers GO, just wrong package, and came in G1 colors as a teaser, just like happened before many times... hasbro doen't pay much attention on packing

It took me a minute to realize you were trolling.

sorry my bad, I mean this abominus from transformers GO and his teaser in G1 colors, packed as PRIME series

We know what toy molds you were talking about, but... surely you don't believe they were made for Go! first and then later redecoed into G1-style decos for Prime later, right?

Cuz it was totally the other way around with Hasbro making these guys as Prime Abominus first and then Takara redecoing them into Go! Goradora afterward. They were made for Prime as Prime Predacons before Takara ever got their mitts on them in the Go! line.

Sabrblade wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:... eeeh actually abominus and the horrorcons/terrorcons were never prime predacons, they belong to transformers GO, just wrong package, and came in G1 colors as a teaser, just like happened before many times... hasbro doen't pay much attention on packing

It took me a minute to realize you were trolling.

sorry my bad, I mean this abominus from transformers GO and his teaser in G1 colors, packed as PRIME series

We know what toy molds you were talking about, but... surely you don't believe they were made for Go! first and then later redecoed into G1-style decos for Prime later, right?

Cuz it was totally the other way around with Hasbro making these guys as Prime Abominus first and then Takara redecoing them into Go! Goradora afterward. They were made for Prime as Prime Predacons before Takara ever got their mitts on them in the Go! line.

Thats a little bit improvised, don't you think? building a 3d animation (story, characters, modeling, rigging, the render itself, post composition, etc) takes a little while, sometimes a long time, besides planing the toy production from hasbro side, is always a rush, if they show something, is always upcoming on schedule ... and packed on the current design.

Remember them? Universe MMO... that is still on schedule



well... here another wrong packing, just saying...

BERSEKAEL wrote:Thats a little bit improvised, don't you think? building a 3d animation (story, characters, modeling, rigging, the render itself, post composition, etc) takes a little while, sometimes a long time, besides planing the toy production from hasbro side, is always a rush, if they show something, is always upcoming on schedule ... and packed on the current design.

Dude, Takara developed the toy molds for Hasbro. They had time to come up with the Goradora redeco because they already knew what the molds we're gonna look like. But the molds were design for Abominus before having Goradora's colors slapped onto them many months later.

Go! was nothing big in the animation department. A mere 10 episodes running 12 minutes long using cheap animation is hardly as expensive to produce as, say, 65 TF: Prime episodes.

Abominus came first, in Spring-Summer 2013. Goradora came second, in Fall 2013. Hasbro came up with the designs, and whose colors were worked on by Joe Kyde.

Takara merely recycled the existing designs for the Jaki in Go!.

BERSEKAEL wrote:Remember them? Universe MMO... that is still on schedule

What do those have to do with anything? None of those have been connected to the MMO (which is now a MOTA, btw). And Ironhide's design came from the Binder of Revelation.

BTW, that game is no longer tied to Prime.

Sabrblade wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:Thats a little bit improvised, don't you think? building a 3d animation (story, characters, modeling, rigging, the render itself, post composition, etc) takes a little while, sometimes a long time, besides planing the toy production from hasbro side, is always a rush, if they show something, is always upcoming on schedule ... and packed on the current design.

Dude, Takara developed the toy molds for Hasbro. They had time to come up with the Goradora redeco because they already knew what the molds we're gonna look like. But the molds were design for Abominus before having Goradora's colors slapped onto them many months later.

Go! was nothing big in the animation department. A mere 10 episodes running 12 minutes long using cheap animation is hardly as expensive to produce as, say, 65 TF: Prime episodes.

Abominus came first, in Spring-Summer 2013. Goradora came second, in Fall 2013. Hasbro came up with the designs, and whose colors were worked on by Joe Kyde.

Takara merely recycled the existing designs for the Jaki in Go!.

BERSEKAEL wrote:Remember them? Universe MMO... that is still on schedule

What do those have to do with anything? None of those have been connected to the MMO (which is now a MOTA, btw). And Ironhide's design came from the Binder of Revelation.

BTW, that game is no longer tied to Prime.

... eeeh, tied to Prime ?... that is the point, everything in transformers is associated, a crossover, inspired from different transformer sources (Binder of Revelation, used internally by hasbro developers to help them to keep track on their mess)... Perhaps each source is revealed later, as a comic/movie/game/line, and most of the time takara is the last one showing his official work in the right environment, rather than hasbro rushing and mixing up everything.

and yes now is a tactical game, and is still in develop process, perhaps Hasbro packed its toys years ago together with movie verse and so. I wonder if this Abominus will ever show up in Prime show, along with Evac.

BERSEKAEL wrote:... eeeh, tied to Prime ?... that is the point, everything in transformers is associated, a crossover, inspired from different transformer sources (Binder of Revelation, used internally by hasbro developers to help them to keep track on their mess)... Perhaps each source is revealed later, as a comic/movie/game/line, and most of the time takara is the last one showing his official work in the right environment, rather than hasbro rushing and mixing up everything.

The Binder of Revelation is only affiliated with stuff Hasbro made for the Aligned continuity. Neither Takara nor the movies nor IDW's G1 comics are beholden to it.

BERSEKAEL wrote:and yes now is a tactical game, and is still in develop process, perhaps Hasbro packed its toys years ago together with movie verse and so. I wonder if this Abominus will ever show up in Prime show, along with Evac.

Evac was made for the Universal Studios ride, which is based off the movies.

And what do you mean "show up in Prime show"? The Prime show is done, over, finished, dead, ever since last Fall. No more new episodes. 65 was it, plus the Predacons Rising movie.

Sabrblade wrote:

BERSEKAEL wrote:... eeeh, tied to Prime ?... that is the point, everything in transformers is associated, a crossover, inspired from different transformer sources (Binder of Revelation, used internally by hasbro developers to help them to keep track on their mess)... Perhaps each source is revealed later, as a comic/movie/game/line, and most of the time takara is the last one showing his official work in the right environment, rather than hasbro rushing and mixing up everything.

The Binder of Revelation is only affiliated with stuff Hasbro made for the Aligned continuity. Neither Takara nor the movies nor IDW's G1 comics are beholden to it.

BERSEKAEL wrote:and yes now is a tactical game, and is still in develop process, perhaps Hasbro packed its toys years ago together with movie verse and so. I wonder if this Abominus will ever show up in Prime show, along with Evac.

Evac was made for the Universal Studios ride, which is based off the movies.

And what do you mean "show up in Prime show"? The Prime show is done, over, finished, dead, ever since last Fall. No more new episodes. 65 was it, plus the Predacons Rising movie.

its technically not dead. its got a sequel in the works which is in the same continuity. so they could show up in that

dreadwing95 wrote:its technically not dead. its got a sequel in the works which is in the same continuity. so they could show up in that

The continuity isn't dead, but the cartoon is. When Beast Machines started, Beast Wars was done. When Energon started, Armada was done. When Cybertron started, Energon was done. This is no different.

May I? In no way is TakaraTomy's way "the right way" all the time, despite them making the molds for Hasbro. The Predacons were designed by Hasbro for Prime Beast Hunters from the very start, including the Legion ones that form Abominus and all TakaraTomy did with them is make a filler line with them by repainting and retooling them. The addition of a cartoon does nothing to enhance its status, nor should it be used as means to discern "what idea came first". You'd be amazed at how fast Asian studios can churn out shows for whatever reason.

You can kind of compare Beast Hunters with Beast Wars: lots of toys, but only a few made it into the cartoon thanks to studio production budgets. In Japan, filler lines were made with the toys left over or non-show toys in the form of Beast Wars II and Neo with some original retools and new molds. No way can one claim the toys released in the US first were made especially for the Japanese shows.

By the way, how did we end from Age of Extinction back to Prime?

While not as fun as One Step Drift the Flip and Change version of the new Samurai warrior has its own unique charm that young, but not too young fans would enjoy. Just be careful not to smack yourself in the face with it!

Via Seibertron.com user chuckdawg1999, we have a nice, in-depth video review of the upcoming "Flip and Change" Drift! Drift transforms in the same manner as the previous entry to the Flip and Change series, Lockdown. View the video review below!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:While not as fun as One Step Drift the Flip and Change version of the new Samurai warrior has its own unique charm that young, but not too young fans would enjoy. Just be careful not to smack yourself in the face with it!

Y'know, I would actually call these pretty decent figures if the legs could bend properly.

I notice with these gimmick toys the parts of the figure not effected by the gimmick move quite well. The arms on these flip changers are quite nice.

The Flip and Change Lockdown would work really well with Leader Class Optimus (in robot mode, that is), if his legs could just move.
Plus, none of the simplified figures have weapons.

Metro Prime wrote:The Flip and Change Lockdown would work really well with Leader Class Optimus (in robot mode, that is), if his legs could just move.
Plus, none of the simplified figures have weapons.

Interestingly enough Prime comes with a sword, maybe because it's Prime?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Metro Prime wrote:The Flip and Change Lockdown would work really well with Leader Class Optimus (in robot mode, that is), if his legs could just move.
Plus, none of the simplified figures have weapons.

Interestingly enough Prime comes with a sword, maybe because it's Prime?

I think it's because he's more hollowed out than the other figures, due to his gimmick, so the extra plastic in his sword doesn't affect the cost.