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o.supreme wrote:

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I've only seen devastator in stores none of the other ones

I've never seen any of them in store (though I know Dev and Superion have been sold at retail). I'm just speaking more to the general availability, and seemingly plentiful quantities.

Again, I know our memories seem to be flawed over the years, but growing up in the 80's there was only one Toys R Us, one Kay Bee, and a couple of other stores (Montgomery Wards, BEST etc...) near my home that had toys, but I never seem to remember having trouble finding, or having to go all over to hunt for a particular transformer I wanted, they always seemed to just be there. I know because of the prevalence of online shopping Times have changed...I just miss the old ways sometimes.

o.supreme wrote:I've never seen any of them in store (though I know Dev and Superion have been sold at retail). I'm just speaking more to the general availability, and seemingly plentiful quantities.

Again, I know our memories seem to be flawed over the years, but growing up in the 80's there was only one Toys R Us, one Kay Bee, and a couple of other stores (Montgomery Wards, BEST etc...) near my home that had toys, but I never seem to remember having trouble finding, or having to go all over to hunt for a particular transformer I wanted, they always seemed to just be there. I know because of the prevalence of online shopping Times have changed...I just miss the old ways sometimes.

You're not alone in that sentiment. Sadly I don't know what it is, but even here these stores are poorly supplied when it comes to toys.

That Bot wrote:I have an extra Groovy Defensor and he's great.

Where did you get that Groove? I haven't seen a Hasbro Groove for sale anywhere here yet... But I assume that's the Hasbro Deluxe Groove?

That Bot wrote:Also, the American Red CW Optimus Prime has bad hip ratchets, which also applies to wave 2 Motormaster. It was fixed on Grand Scourge, Convoy Grand Prime, Battle Core Optimus Prime (the white one), and wave 4 Motormaster. Something to keep in mind.

So, basically, the Red Hasbro CW O/P always has bad hips? I just read this topic, and I understand that basically, the ratchets are off by half a tooth, thus not allowing the Combiner to stand straight, right? That's pretty bad. Definitely looking to find a Takara Grand Prime then instead of a Hasbro one.

Sjeng wrote:Where did you get that Groove? I haven't seen a Hasbro Groove for sale anywhere here yet... But I assume that's the Hasbro Deluxe Groove?

Correct, it was the limited first run of the Hasbro Groove on the CW Defensor. CW Groove will be getting a much wider release in October, so you may be able to get one with more ease later this year.

So, basically, the Red Hasbro CW O/P always has bad hips? I just read this topic, and I understand that basically, the ratchets are off by half a tooth, thus not allowing the Combiner to stand straight, right? That's pretty bad. Definitely looking to find a Takara Grand Prime then instead of a Hasbro one.

Or you could get the CW Battle Core O/P that has an (as of yet) exclusive head mold, and a cooler deco - this also happens to relieve your collection of the monotony of another Prime with a red paint scheme. But if you really want a red Prime, then, yes, the UW Grand Convoy is your best way to go.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Or you could get the CW Battle Core O/P that has an (as of yet) exclusive head mold, and a cooler deco - this also happens to relieve your collection of the monotony of another Prime with a red paint scheme. But if you really want a red Prime, then, yes, the UW Grand Convoy is your best way to go.

Well, since anything CW is very hard to find here in the NL and Belgium, it's gonna be hard to try and complete this guy anyway, red OR white. All I can find here is HotSpot and Cyclonus voyagers, and Dragstrip, Skydive and Firefly, and some RiD O/P's, and a few Optimus Maximus bases (discounted for €25,- but it looked horrible). And some random Legend class models. *sigh*

Sjeng wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Or you could get the CW Battle Core O/P that has an (as of yet) exclusive head mold, and a cooler deco - this also happens to relieve your collection of the monotony of another Prime with a red paint scheme. But if you really want a red Prime, then, yes, the UW Grand Convoy is your best way to go.

Well, since anything CW is very hard to find here in the NL and Belgium, it's gonna be hard to try and complete this guy anyway, red OR white. All I can find here is HotSpot and Cyclonus voyagers, and Dragstrip, Skydive and Firefly, and some RiD O/P's, and a few Optimus Maximus bases (discounted for €25,- but it looked horrible). And some random Legend class models. *sigh*

the... the guy from 2012

that's what I call a shelfwarmer

Sjeng wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Or you could get the CW Battle Core O/P that has an (as of yet) exclusive head mold, and a cooler deco - this also happens to relieve your collection of the monotony of another Prime with a red paint scheme. But if you really want a red Prime, then, yes, the UW Grand Convoy is your best way to go.

Well, since anything CW is very hard to find here in the NL and Belgium, it's gonna be hard to try and complete this guy anyway, red OR white. All I can find here is HotSpot and Cyclonus voyagers, and Dragstrip, Skydive and Firefly, and some RiD O/P's, and a few Optimus Maximus bases (discounted for €25,- but it looked horrible). And some random Legend class models. *sigh*

Unfortunately, that's what happens when one starts wanting to collect a year-old line just as it's coming to an end.

Sabrblade wrote:

Sjeng wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Or you could get the CW Battle Core O/P that has an (as of yet) exclusive head mold, and a cooler deco - this also happens to relieve your collection of the monotony of another Prime with a red paint scheme. But if you really want a red Prime, then, yes, the UW Grand Convoy is your best way to go.

Well, since anything CW is very hard to find here in the NL and Belgium, it's gonna be hard to try and complete this guy anyway, red OR white. All I can find here is HotSpot and Cyclonus voyagers, and Dragstrip, Skydive and Firefly, and some RiD O/P's, and a few Optimus Maximus bases (discounted for €25,- but it looked horrible). And some random Legend class models. *sigh*

Unfortunately, that's what happens when one starts wanting to collect a year-old line just as it's coming to an end.

Yes yes yes rub it in why dontcha :p

Sabrblade wrote:Unfortunately, that's what happens when one starts wanting to collect a year-old line just as it's coming to an end.

Something I've been telling myself every day for the last month...If only I could go back in time to tell myself to start collecting CW from day one. Of course if I could go back in time, I'd probably just purchase all Original Transformers toys...well honestly...if I could go back in time, I'd probably move on to bigger things than toys that would eventually lead to the destruction of time as we know it. So...we'll just stick with me lamenting my indecisiveness from a year ago

Sjeng wrote:

That Bot wrote:I have an extra Groovy Defensor and he's great.

Where did you get that Groove? I haven't seen a Hasbro Groove for sale anywhere here yet... But I assume that's the Hasbro Deluxe Groove?

Preordered him from BBTS a couple months back. Funny story: Shortly after placing that order, I found a site that had him listed for cheaper than BBTS, and ordered one from there. When I was about to cancel my BBTS order, it had already started processing. So I've got another Groove on my way eventually that I've agreed to sell to a friend at cost. Also, good news, Hasbro Deluxe Groove is almost identical to Takara Deluxe Groove, except that the former uses black screws instead of the latter's silver. That's literally the only difference.

That Bot wrote:Funny story: Shortly after placing that order, I found a site that had him listed for cheaper than BBTS, and ordered one from there.

What store was that if I may ask?

Scramblecore. He's pre-sold out now, though.

That Bot wrote:Scramblecore. He's pre-sold out now, though.

I've ordered from ScrambleCore quite a few times already. First time was where I pre-ordered CW Megatron from and the second time was when I got TR Scourge and CW Cyclonus. Not a bad place to order from in my book, have had pleasant experiences thus far. Plus their prices are pretty reasonable too.

Computron arrived today, er yesterday morning at this point techinically. I'm really happy with the set, except for the feet. They detract from stability and seem to raise the center of gravity for combined mode. I'm going to have to score the bottom edges or add some sort of rubber grip.

Other than that I love the individual bot modes. Lightspeed is meh, but he does have a nice candy red color. The green windshield on Afterbreaker(burner) and lightpiping is awesome even if it's not entirely fiction accurate. I'm quite fond of Cheesehead's(Nosecone) colorscheme as well. Strafe might be my favorite of the bunch even though his guns don't detach. I just peg one of Afterburner's to his arm so he's not unarmed. Scattershot looks great in vehicle mode and pretty good in bot mode. And of course there's Scrounge, who seems a bit softer than Cosmos but he and Cybax are still fun little dudes.

I do think I'm going to double up and get the Takara Comp as well. There's so much I like about that version I doubt I can help myself. I'll piece together the best possible Computron and use the rest as generics or customs. Already have ideas for Hasbro Nosecone. If I can find a tank barrel for him rather than the drill I think he'd make a great Guzzle(LSotW era, not hulkmode SotW era haha) by leaving his legs stumpy and painting his head.

o.supreme wrote:

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WORD!

Fellow Seibertronians, after so long, through whispers and wondering if it would really happen, Transformers Combiner Wars Computron is making it's way to shelves near you, but for now, we have a video review of the big brainiac combiner, courtesy of fellow user Optibotimus. In it we get a look at the new figures, including the highly anticipated Scrounge retooling of Legends class Cosmos - as well as a look at the technobot retooling of Unite Warriors Deluxe class Groove. So will you be getting this or will you be stalking ebay for Scrounge. Check out the review, and let us know what you think of Hasbro's offering of Scrounge and the Technobots in the comments below.

"Scrounge which in the g1 cartoons was sorta paired with the technobots"

Hmmm.
Hmmm.

And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation

Kurona wrote:"Scrounge which in the g1 cartoons was sorta paired with the technobots"

Hmmm.
Hmmm.

And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation

Sorry about that...i misspoke. I didn't mean the cartoon, i meant comic. Accidents happen i guess but i do apologize for the confusion.

As for the elbows....the articulation is still there, just not doubled up. Rotating the arms in Computron mode to have the double elbow sort of thing, makes Strafe have his wings facing forward, i prefer to keep them on the back. Because of that, i rotated the legs around on Afterburner to have it be symmetrical. As for the legs, i didn't slip them around on Computron on the G1 toy either. It's just a personal aesthetic look that i like. You can obviously display your figure how you wish.

With the exception of Nosecone, I like the Hasbro versions of all the individual figures better than the Takara versions. I do not like that Hasbro's uses the same head as Superion, however, the amount of stuff I like in the Hasbro version exceeds the amount I dislike, especially considering the inflated price I'd have to pay for the Takara version that I only really find to be superior in one limb and the combiner head which simply isn't enough to justify the higher price for me.

Vic Zanzibar wrote:With the exception of Nosecone, I like the Hasbro versions of all the individual figures better than the Takara versions. I do not like that Hasbro's uses the same head as Superion, however, the amount of stuff I like in the Hasbro version exceeds the amount I dislike, especially considering the inflated price I'd have to pay for the Takara version that I only really find to be superior in one limb and the combiner head which simply isn't enough to justify the higher price for me.

You could always go for PC-11 + Hasbro Computron in that case



If, that is, third party stuff doesn't bother you. I was gonna go that route until I realised I overall preferred Takara and didn't care much for Scrounge.

optibotimus wrote:

Kurona wrote:"Scrounge which in the g1 cartoons was sorta paired with the technobots"

Hmmm.
Hmmm.

And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation

Sorry about that...i misspoke. I didn't mean the cartoon, i meant comic. Accidents happen i guess but i do apologize for the confusion.

He wasn't paired with the Technobots in the comics either. He died several issues before the Technobots first appeared.

Sabrblade wrote:

optibotimus wrote:

Kurona wrote:"Scrounge which in the g1 cartoons was sorta paired with the technobots"

Hmmm.
Hmmm.

And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation

Sorry about that...i misspoke. I didn't mean the cartoon, i meant comic. Accidents happen i guess but i do apologize for the confusion.

He wasn't paired with the Technobots in the comics either. He died several issues before the Technobots first appeared.

Well...he is now lol

Kurona wrote:

Vic Zanzibar wrote:With the exception of Nosecone, I like the Hasbro versions of all the individual figures better than the Takara versions. I do not like that Hasbro's uses the same head as Superion, however, the amount of stuff I like in the Hasbro version exceeds the amount I dislike, especially considering the inflated price I'd have to pay for the Takara version that I only really find to be superior in one limb and the combiner head which simply isn't enough to justify the higher price for me.

You could always go for PC-11 + Hasbro Computron in that case


If, that is, third party stuff doesn't bother you. I was gonna go that route until I realised I overall preferred Takara and didn't care much for Scrounge.

I appreciate the suggestion, but $35 plus shipping is more than I care to pay for a head for a figure, which is what I'd be paying for since I don't care about the breastplate or gun. (It's not G1 accuracy that bothers me; it's just having two combiners with the same head.)

optibotimus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

optibotimus wrote:

Kurona wrote:"Scrounge which in the g1 cartoons was sorta paired with the technobots"

Hmmm.
Hmmm.

And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation

Sorry about that...i misspoke. I didn't mean the cartoon, i meant comic. Accidents happen i guess but i do apologize for the confusion.

He wasn't paired with the Technobots in the comics either. He died several issues before the Technobots first appeared.

Well...he is now lol

And it is glorious!