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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:40 pm
by Razorbeast88
It doesn't look super cool or menacing but I think that's how he had his hands positioned in the cartoon if I remember correctly

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:49 pm
by Immortal Starscream
Razorbeast88 wrote:It doesn't look super cool or menacing but I think that's how he had his hands positioned in the cartoon if I remember correctly


generally speaking yes, but he used his dino hands quite a bit too. Usually when he was walking or running in beast mode his hands were like that. But I will admit, these pics do make his dino hands seem a bit off somehow. of course he's also clearly mistransformed in one pic, so that could be making it seem off too.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:50 pm
by WiseMan
On the back of Dinobot's box, in the dino mode pic, his . . . dinoboobs are grey, not gold. It looks like the same color in robot mode if it transforms the way I'm thinking.

What are the chances that the action poses have the colors wrong and the box art is right?

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:54 pm
by TOO MUCH ENERGON!
Dinobot in particular looks dope, and I’ll definitely pick up Airazor. I just bought a Siege Ultra Magnus for 50% off recently though, so that will suffice. This figure doesn’t seem different enough to justify a repurchase.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:00 pm
by Razorbeast88
Immortal Starscream wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:It doesn't look super cool or menacing but I think that's how he had his hands positioned in the cartoon if I remember correctly


generally speaking yes, but he used his dino hands quite a bit too. Usually when he was walking or running in beast mode his hands were like that. But I will admit, these pics do make his dino hands seem a bit off somehow. of course he's also clearly mistransformed in one pic, so that could be making it seem off too.


Yeah good point, he waved those things around a lot when he was snarling at the other maximals lol
From the last pic it seems like the dino hands have a similar joint to vertebreak's feet, though it looks like they fold down to be put away or something. From what I can see it just seems like the "fingers" look way too long and it looks off

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:03 pm
by Razorbeast88
WiseMan wrote:On the back of Dinobot's box, in the dino mode pic, his . . . dinoboobs are grey, not gold. It looks like the same color in robot mode if it transforms the way I'm thinking.

What are the chances that the action poses have the colors wrong and the box art is right?


Not sure what the chances are but that would be pretty cool, especially since the dino mode is colored in a way that's more show accurate in the box art

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:13 pm
by Overcracker
Need that Dinobot now!. Where are the pre-orders? :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:

Airazor looks really good. Loving the Horus mode.

As for Magnus, the retool works, the small robot mode kind of suffers now since the upper body now makes him passively barrel chested, but I really like the look of the cab in truck mode.

Also, yes his butt is mistransformed in all the inner robot pictures. It should be slid up onto his back.

I already have Netflix Magnus, so not sure I need this one, but I may consider it if only to have the earth mode. Decisions... decisions...

Also, Takara repaint into Powered Convoy in 3...2...1...

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:44 pm
by Tuned Agent
Airazor looks perfect! The sculpting is great, and the falcon articulation is a great bonus (articulated beak!). Plus the glorious stupidity of giving her a bird-brain? Sign me up 1000%.

Dinobot looks great in robot mode, especially the headsculpt. His raptor mode is ok, but I think they did about the best they could. The raptor hands are pretty weird, though, and it would definitely be better if his robot hips were brown for the raptor's sake. I'm really glad to see that they didn't skimp on Dinobot's weapons.

Ultra Magnus looks ok. The new robot mode looks good and I like it more than the Siege version, but the inner robot is definitely a downgrade and the alt mode doesn't look particularly cohesive. An interesting note, he seems to have obvious places for insignias on his right shoulder and towards the front of each side of the trailer, but he doesn't, instead only having one on his front bumper. Weird.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:14 pm
by Overcracker
Tuned Agent wrote:Airazor looks perfect! The sculpting is great, and the falcon articulation is a great bonus (articulated beak!). Plus the glorious stupidity of giving her a bird-brain? Sign me up 1000%.

Dinobot looks great in robot mode, especially the headsculpt. His raptor mode is ok, but I think they did about the best they could. The raptor hands are pretty weird, though, and it would definitely be better if his robot hips were brown for the raptor's sake. I'm really glad to see that they didn't skimp on Dinobot's weapons.

Ultra Magnus looks ok. The new robot mode looks good and I like it more than the Siege version, but the inner robot is definitely a downgrade and the alt mode doesn't look particularly cohesive. An interesting note, he seems to have obvious places for insignias on his right shoulder and towards the front of each side of the trailer, but he doesn't, instead only having one on his front bumper. Weird.


Magnus is very mistransformed.

The trailer should peg in a bit further forward, to cover his inner robot arms and hands. His trailer should start over his shoulders (the red part), not back by his legs. Also his shoulder pieces look retooled from Siege/Netflix to be flatter and more G1. And it looks like his trailer panels have been retooled to removing one hinge and the front most panel. Not sure why they would do that.



Magnus should look much better when he is properly put together in all of his modes.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:08 pm
by blackeyedprime
Overcracker wrote:
The trailer should peg in a bit further forward, to cover his inner robot arms and hands.


Back of the box art shows the trailer to be that way so it is how it has meant to be attached :(

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:08 pm
by Rtron
WiseMan wrote:On the back of Dinobot's box, in the dino mode pic, his . . . dinoboobs are grey, not gold. It looks like the same color in robot mode if it transforms the way I'm thinking.

What are the chances that the action poses have the colors wrong and the box art is right?


Probably close to 0, as the pictures may have even been taken from actual production figures, while the box art is just a cg render, which probably predates the final color decisions by quite a bit, given we've seen those be inaccurate to the final look many times before. Like with Earthrise Optimus Prime or Dark of the Moon Optimus Prime

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:27 pm
by Overcracker
blackeyedprime wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
The trailer should peg in a bit further forward, to cover his inner robot arms and hands.


Back of the box art shows the trailer to be that way so it is how it has meant to be attached :(


And the back of the box has never been wrong?

Nope, its definitely wrong. The red back panel attaches over the shoulders and around the smokestacks.

You can just make out the chest piece dipping down into the trailer when it should be straight when correctly transformed and pegged into the trailer side panels and the top of the shin panels.

The picture on the back of the box is clearly missing the shoulder pylons that attach underneath the trailer and onto the inner robot's lower leg peg.

The back of the box in this case is incredibly wrong.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:30 pm
by TK415
Are any of these up for pre-order?

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:32 pm
by Razorbeast88
I believe the post says they're up for preorder on Thursday

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:34 pm
by bacem
Dinobot. Yep, i like what i see. I do not even mind the dinoboobs as much as other people, definitely getting him.

Airazor. Transformation seems fairly typical birdformers, but there seems to be some additional neat tricks. Love how posable the wing is.

Magnus. Seesh, they really on a tight rush job on him, it seems. The photographer, i mean. Might wait for takara's pics first, since they tend to do must better job than hasbro's.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:55 pm
by Ultra Markus
ultra magnus trailer is lazy looks nothing like earthmode yeah i get they reused the siege version but
they could of done somthing better

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:05 pm
by Tuned Agent
Overcracker wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
The trailer should peg in a bit further forward, to cover his inner robot arms and hands.


Back of the box art shows the trailer to be that way so it is how it has meant to be attached :(


And the back of the box has never been wrong?

Nope, its definitely wrong. The red back panel attaches over the shoulders and around the smokestacks.

You can just make out the chest piece dipping down into the trailer when it should be straight when correctly transformed and pegged into the trailer side panels and the top of the shin panels.

The picture on the back of the box is clearly missing the shoulder pylons that attach underneath the trailer and onto the inner robot's lower leg peg.

The back of the box in this case is incredibly wrong.

Magnus is transformed correctly on the back of the box. The slot where the trailer attaches to the clips on the inner robot's legs has been moved to the first panel instead of the second one, which spaces the trailer farther out from the cab. The trailer will not cover the inner robot's arms.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:25 pm
by Nemesis Primal
Well, Magnus was never on my radar to begin with in terms of actual interest, so the fact that the Siege version I already have looks better is great, although it is kinda hilarious that they couldn't figure out how to transform him properly for ANY of those photos.

Airazor still looks great, she actually looks really good with the wings visible and I'm not sure why the in-package shot we saw before obscures them. That Horus mode/mistransformation is hilarious, and the bird mode looks pretty solid. I still kinda wish she had her darker show coloration for her bot mode, but since realistic alt modes are one of the focuses of the line, I'm fine with the brown. I honestly did not expect to like Airazor as much as I do, that's awesome. I've also had a thought now about a real out-of-left-field repaint/Selects they can do from this that could be interesting...

Dinobot having both weapons is great, his legs are...kinda off-looking being fully gold/orange now that we can see it better, but not at all a deal-breaker considering how perfect the rest of the bot mode looks. The beast mode is, admittedly, a bit of a mixed bag. I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt for now in that the bot mode legs might be able to sit more flush than in those shots (considering, again, all of Magnus's shots were wrong), although the dino-bust is kinda unavoidable by nature with this design. The hands are weird, but they might look good for some lunging poses. The head doesn't bother me, I'm not so dedicated that I care how many teeth he has. I think he actually does have the show-accurate stripe fade on the alt mode though, like the box shows, I think the lighting is obscuring it but I can kinda make it out in 2 of those shots. The stripes are clearly visible in the mistransformed no background shot, ignore that part. Overall, still very excited for Dinobot, glad we're getting official reveals again.

Also Emerje, thanks for clearing up the Loudpedal conversation.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:34 pm
by Autobot N
Airazor is great, will definitely purchase. Not so sure about Magnus, though; the inner robot is a lot worse and I'm not sure if I want to spend $50 just to get the goggles head.

Apparently, the original plan for Magnus was to retool the armor to fit ER Prime, but that ended up being too expensive. I totally would have bought that as a Commander with a slew of accessories and maybe a smaller figure included with him, like a Core Fossilizer.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:38 pm
by Wireless_Phantom
So, are we going to address what Dinobot's sword looks like or...

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:54 pm
by bacem
Wireless_Phantom wrote:So, are we going to address what Dinobot's sword looks like or...


What's wrong with his sword? Looks fine to me.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:08 pm
by TK415
Razorbeast88 wrote:I believe the post says they're up for preorder on Thursday

Awesome thanks man.

My bad, it was right there in the post! Ouch. I didn't even read the post, too distracted.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:10 pm
by Razorbeast88
You're welcome! And no worries haha completely understandable this post was exciting!

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:47 pm
by King Kuuga
Dinobot: YES
Airazor: YES
Ultram Magnus: Bleh



Dinoboobs are off-putting but hell, the original had feet for a chest so I can live with it if that's the cost for everything else.
Airazor's wings look spectacular and, well, so does the rest of her. Loving the bird head mode.

And then there's Magnus. I wasn't going to get him, but now I'm really not going to get him. I have Siege and don't particularly like that one either but it's better than this mess. But he sure do got a badonk!

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:54 pm
by Jeddostotle7
why does everyone seem to forget the "butt" bumper slides up to be a backpack on Siege Magnus, and thus also will on Kingdom Magnus, especially given that's what the back of the box shows is true for the latter