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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Might be interested in these Cyber series Eleven and Six inch toys. If they have fully articulated robot modes. Hoping the shoulders and hips are universal. Bending backward knees and elbows. Ball jointed heads.

Two words: Upscaled Legion Designs... O wait, that's not right (it only goes for Bumblebee), nor is it two words. I know: Simplified Transformation, or Stiff Limbs.

These seem to have really limited articulation. That megatron seems to be a brick with very little articulation. And that optimus looks very flat, its wierding me out.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Might be interested in these Cyber series Eleven and Six inch toys. If they have fully articulated robot modes. Hoping the shoulders and hips are universal. Bending backward knees and elbows. Ball jointed heads.

Two words: Upscaled Legion Designs... O wait, that's not right (it only goes for Bumblebee), nor is it two words. I know: Simplified Transformation, or Stiff Limbs.

These seem to have really limited articulation. That megatron seems to be a brick with very little articulation. And that optimus looks very flat, its wierding me out.

The 11-inchers seem to fare better, equal to the Simplified Voyagers: bending elbows and knees, but that's it.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Might be interested in these Cyber series Eleven and Six inch toys. If they have fully articulated robot modes. Hoping the shoulders and hips are universal. Bending backward knees and elbows. Ball jointed heads.

Two words: Upscaled Legion Designs... O wait, that's not right (it only goes for Bumblebee), nor is it two words. I know: Simplified Transformation, or Stiff Limbs.

These seem to have really limited articulation. That megatron seems to be a brick with very little articulation. And that optimus looks very flat, its wierding me out.

The 11-inchers seem to fare better, equal to the Simplified Voyagers: bending elbows and knees, but that's it.

After a second glance.

It appears the Six inch Cyber toys might have Faux sculpted joints for the knees and and elbows that have no articulation.

The Eleven inch Cyber toys do appear to have more articulation for the robot modes than Six inch Cyber toys do. From the tiny pic, can see Universal shoulders and hips joints. Noticed the elbows are ball jointed which means more posing. Knees look like they can bend backwards for transformation.

Can't tell if the Eleven inch Cyber toys have any articulation in the heads. Guessing a ball jointed head. Or at the very least turn around head joints. Speculating any sort of Wrist of ankle joints were not priority. Think it's doubtful These Eleven inch Cyber toys heads have no articulation.

Looks like Eleven inch Optimus might have a bit more articulation than Eleven inch Bumblebee does.

Wow at the people not able to see the points of articulation these have and when they do see them declare them fake because they are that upset that these are being made. It's a truly sad world we live in.

These kinda leader Optimus, Bee, and Megs look very nice from affar. I'm looking forward for cleared images and more infor on these.

So if they're making stuff like this, are they trying to rely less on the cartoons?

PrymeStriker wrote:Is it just me, or does Cyber Series Grimlock looks like BW Dinobot in robot mode?

A bit, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence ad it's meant to be AoE colors.

TFFS wrote:Wow at the people not able to see the points of articulation these have and when they do see them declare them fake because they are that upset that these are being made. It's a truly sad world we live in.

Look at this guy:



Nope, it's not a Legion, it's a Simplified Deluxe and the basis for the smaller Bumblebee. Look and compare:



And I'm now eating my words since I'm spotting simple working elbow and knee joints. Still not regular Generations-material however as they're simple hinges.

That new Optimus looks cool. Sort of like a composite between the new RiD cartoon and G1

Going to be changing my guesses for a Third time in this thread.

Until I see proof of Articulation. Going to think postive. By assuming these Seven inch and Eleven inch Cyber series toys have CW Deluxe type articulated robot modes.

Tsutsukakushi wrote::lol: Going to be changing my guesses for a Third time in this thread.

Until I see proof of Articulation. Going to think postive. By assuming these Seven inch and Eleven inch Cyber series toys have CW Deluxe type articulated robot modes.

I think all have the same amount of articulation as a Robots in Disguise 2015 Legion class figure.

william-james88 wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote::lol: Going to be changing my guesses for a Third time in this thread.

Until I see proof of Articulation. Going to think postive. By assuming these Seven inch and Eleven inch Cyber series toys have CW Deluxe type articulated robot modes.

I think all have the same amount of articulation as a Robots in Disguise 2015 Legion class figure.

Except most of the Legion class toys including the Rid ones. Don't have any articulated Elbows. Some don't have articulated bending Knees.

Looking at the cyber series pics.

That Cyber series 7 Megatron has elbow joints. one of his arms is bent in a Ninety degree angle.

Cyber 7 Megatron's hips look like they have ball joints.

Cyber 7 Grimlock has knee joints on the Dino mode that becomes his elbow joints. Their are fastened screws and indents visible. With a rigid cog sculpted joint.

Cyber 7 Grimlock's Dino mode looks like it has 1.0 Grimlock's toy articulation.

Looking at the alt modes, looks like the robot toys need to have CW Deluxe articulation to transform.

Cyber 11 Bumblebee's arms are bent in a Ninety degree angle. A indication of elbow joints. Looking at the car and robot mode. The toy needs CW Deluxe articulation in order to transform.

Cyber 7 Bumblebee has a Elbow up down joint that looks like. The CW Titan class Construticons elbow joints.

Cyber 11 Optimus has one bent arm. Indication of Elbow joints. One arm is pushed forward and arms are spread out. Indication of universal shoulder joints. The transformation needs universal hips and bending knees.

If these cyber series toys have CW deluxe Articulation. Can't imagine the robot heads not having articulation.

The robot fist on CW 7 Grimlock has CW Deluxe transformation bending articulation. See pin joints on the forearms that the fist use. Fist fold into the hollow forearms for transformation.

See transformation steps type articulated feet joints on these Cyber series toys.

I like that optimus.Looks cool.The rest are great too.

Pure crap for a premium price... ridiculous. The current team behind TFs is in dire need of a rotation

I'm guessing they're using the AOE colors on Grimlock so parents/kids will recognize it as a movie character, same reason Bumblebee is a sports car. I'm rather excited for these, if they're anything like those simplified deluxes they'll be solid, chunky robots.

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Pure crap for a premium price... ridiculous. The current team behind TFs is in dire need of a rotation

So salty...
"Premium price?" You're paying about $10-25 for a huge-ass, Unicron Trilogy style, updated G1 toy with about as much articulation as an early Classics figure. They're not bad for what they are.

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote: ridiculous. The current team behind TFs is in dire need of a rotation

Think the current Hasbro TF team is doing just fine. Think the 30th, Combiners wars Generations and Masterpieces are great toys.

These Cyber series toys are being marketed for the younger kids. Teenagers and adult fans are not the ones Hasbro is making these Cyber toys for.

Hasbro's Team is doing a brillant job with creating different TF toy lines for different age groups.

Think as fans we need to be more thankful. That HasTak is catering so many different TF toy lines towards our adult age group like. Masterpieces, 30th, Generations and Combiners wars toys.

Maxine Prime wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Pure crap for a premium price... ridiculous. The current team behind TFs is in dire need of a rotation

So salty...
"Premium price?" You're paying about $10-25 for a huge-ass, Unicron Trilogy style, updated G1 toy with about as much articulation as an early Classics figure. They're not bad for what they are.

Agree with what, Maxine Prime stated.

Regular retail price is not premium prices.

Convention exclusives and store exclusive platinum prices are Premium prices.

Due to the simplicity of these Cyber series toys. Buyers will pay a bit less for a bigger than average TF toy.

william-james88 wrote:And just in case that didnt do it for you, they just announced ANOTHER Bumblebee as part of this line. That's right, you have 2 new simplified bumblebees to look forward to, to go along with the biggest bumblebee toy ever made which is also simplified:

Errgh, ERRGH, ERRGH!!


On the plus side, the other TFs don't look nearly as bad anymore...

Noideaforaname wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And just in case that didnt do it for you, they just announced ANOTHER Bumblebee as part of this line. That's right, you have 2 new simplified bumblebees to look forward to, to go along with the biggest bumblebee toy ever made which is also simplified:

Errgh, ERRGH, ERRGH!!


On the plus side, the other TFs don't look nearly as bad anymore...

Think that Rid Three step Bumblebee is a bad Cyber series articulation comparisons example. As the RID Three step toy only has up down shoulder joints and that's it.

Looking at the Cyber series toy pics. Each Cyber series toy has over 15 plus points of articulation.

Think the Cyber series toys have almost the same number of articulated joints as the CW deluxe toys have.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:

william-james88 wrote:And just in case that didnt do it for you, they just announced ANOTHER Bumblebee as part of this line. That's right, you have 2 new simplified bumblebees to look forward to, to go along with the biggest bumblebee toy ever made which is also simplified:

Errgh, ERRGH, ERRGH!!


On the plus side, the other TFs don't look nearly as bad anymore...

Think that Rid Three step Bumblebee is a bad Cyber series articulation comparisons example. As the RID Three step toy only has up down shoulder joints and that's it.

Looking at the Cyber series toy pics. Each Cyber series toy has over 15 plus points of articulation.

Think the Cyber series toys have almost the same number of articulated joints as the CW deluxe toys have.

That's not any 3-Step: that's the ginormous 3-Step.

I was just poking fun at how many simplified Bumblebee toys we were getting, not really comparing him. It's definitely a swarm. Also, I do not believe the Cyber series to have the same amount of articulation as CW deluxes and any joint they will have will be far more restricted.

william-james88 wrote:I was just poking fun at how many simplified Bumblebee toys we were getting, not really comparing him. It's definitely a swarm. Also, I do not believe the Cyber series to have the same amount of articulation as CW deluxes and any joint they will have will be far more restricted.

At least this time, there is a great variety of Bees, and a reasonable ammount of them in each cases.
The real swarm happened during DOTM and Prime. Now Hasbro learned his lesson.

For nostalgia purpose, here's what my local TrU used to look like some years back:


Every Bees on each pegs hide 3 to 5 more behind.

BTW, anyone saw that cheap-ass Leader AoE Bee in store? Because I never saw it, ever.

-Kanrabat- wrote:For nostalgia purpose, here's what my local TrU used to look like some years back:


Every Bees on each pegs hide 3 to 5 more behind.

A similar case:

-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, anyone saw that cheap-ass Leader AoE Bee in store? Because I never saw it, ever.

O, the redeco of DotM Bumblebee? Only showed up at Costco in the US and Canadian Tire where you are. He should still be at the latter as he was stocked for 2014 holiday season.

I really like the look of that Megatron, in both modes.