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Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:38 pm**

Cyberpath wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:I don't understand the logic of this one. It can be argued that Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime need redos, but I don't understand the timing. MP-10 was made to bring the scale down, but when that was made it was shown to be more in scale with MP-09, so there's really no immediate need for a redo, like there is with MP-05. I don't pretend to call the shots for TT, but I'd rather see either another stab at Megatron, or new characters before revisiting Hot Rod. That's my two cents, and before people take me apart, I know that's exactly what they're worth.

MP-10 was made in scale with MP-9, but as Rodimus Prime.

This new figure represents Hot Rod. Same size as the other Autobot cars. And likely newer and better engineering than MP-9.

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I agree that a new MP Megatron is long overdo. imo Hasui needs to be the one to do it.

I get that this is Hot Rod, not Rodimus Prime, but why bother getting a Hot Rod into scale with characters like Prowl that he never shared screen time with. Once Blurr and Kup are made, then worry about his scale. It's just making the wait time for Jazz, Brawn, Sunstreaker, and the rest of the Ark crew longer. Maybe there's licensing issues going on behind the scenes perhaps?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:46 pm**

Need to see more before judging, but I like what little we can see. MP09 Rodimus should've just been Rodimus Prime, not both Hot Rod and Rodimus.

*prays that this leads to an official MP Galvatron*

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:51 pm**

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Sooo.... In the realm of "New" Masterpiece, is Black Rodimus irrelevant, now? :/

I was super looking forward to finally getting Black Rodimus someday. Siiiiiiiigh....

If you want it, does it matter if he's considered relevant or not?

DecepticonFinishline wrote:So are they going to update Grimlock? My finger is on the trigger for that one, so I'd like to know before I buy it.

No word about a new MP Grimlock as of writing this. We can only guess.

Desslok2201 wrote:I get that this is Hot Rod, not Rodimus Prime, but why bother getting a Hot Rod into scale with characters like Prowl that he never shared screen time with. Once Blurr and Kup are made, then worry about his scale. It's just making the wait time for Jazz, Brawn, Sunstreaker, and the rest of the Ark crew longer. Maybe there's licensing issues going on behind the scenes perhaps?

The 30th anniversary of TFTM is coming up, and Hot Rod was the star, perhaps that was a factor in their decision-making.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:55 pm**

Desslok2201 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:I don't understand the logic of this one. It can be argued that Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime need redos, but I don't understand the timing. MP-10 was made to bring the scale down, but when that was made it was shown to be more in scale with MP-09, so there's really no immediate need for a redo, like there is with MP-05. I don't pretend to call the shots for TT, but I'd rather see either another stab at Megatron, or new characters before revisiting Hot Rod. That's my two cents, and before people take me apart, I know that's exactly what they're worth.

MP-10 was made in scale with MP-9, but as Rodimus Prime.

This new figure represents Hot Rod. Same size as the other Autobot cars. And likely newer and better engineering than MP-9.

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I agree that a new MP Megatron is long overdo. imo Hasui needs to be the one to do it.

I get that this is Hot Rod, not Rodimus Prime, but why bother getting a Hot Rod into scale with characters like Prowl that he never shared screen time with. Once Blurr and Kup are made, then worry about his scale. It's just making the wait time for Jazz, Brawn, Sunstreaker, and the rest of the Ark crew longer. Maybe there's licensing issues going on behind the scenes perhaps?

Well we do have both Magnus and Daniel in exosuit now. It's not like there's absolutely no other season 3/movie characters in MP now like when the original Rodimus came out. And who knows maybe there planning to do Galvatron next year too, it's not like they only can make 2 MPs a year. Were (hopefully) having 4 come out this year.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:56 pm**

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Sooo.... In the realm of "New" Masterpiece, is Black Rodimus irrelevant, now? :/

I was super looking forward to finally getting Black Rodimus someday. Siiiiiiiigh....

The good news is that Black Rodimus would probably be cheaper now or more available.

Desslok2201 wrote:
I get that this is Hot Rod, not Rodimus Prime, but why bother getting a Hot Rod into scale with characters like Prowl that he never shared screen time with. Once Blurr and Kup are made, then worry about his scale. It's just making the wait time for Jazz, Brawn, Sunstreaker, and the rest of the Ark crew longer. Maybe there's licensing issues going on behind the scenes perhaps?

But wasnt he Rodimus Prime for the most part when he was hanging around with Blurr, Magnus and crew? So technically this figure is only there for the scale found in the film until the end. And he does have a specific scale with Optimus since he was there at the moment of his deth, thats probabl the scale they are tryingto replicate.

And DecepticonFinishline, this scale logic above shows that the previous Rodimus Prime is not irrelevant.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:01 pm**

I'm really excited about this. I haven't really been as interested in the '84 MPs as I thought I'd be but MPs for Movie/season 3?? Yes please. But really I want this one for my CHUG movie shelf. Even if he's small compared to MP 10 he'll fit with everyone on that shelf as Rodimus. So I'm eagerly waiting for this!! Can't wait for the reveal.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:03 pm**

Actually, if he is as big as MP Ironhide, that would be perfect.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:07 pm**

william-james88 wrote:Actually, if he is as big as MP Ironhide, that would be perfect.

There's no way. If he's in scale with Prowl, he'll be smaller than Ironhide, who looks to be a new size, inbetween the standard car and Optimus size.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:30 pm**

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Sooo.... In the realm of "New" Masterpiece, is Black Rodimus irrelevant, now? :/

I was super looking forward to finally getting Black Rodimus someday. Siiiiiiiigh....

So are they going to update Grimlock? My finger is on the trigger for that one, so I'd like to know before I buy it.

First, you can count on Takara to milk that new mold with as many repaints as possible. So a Black Rodimus is most guaranteed. You'll see it mosey down the streets, pants down his ancles and listening to gansta rap for sure!

Also, I don't think they'll redo Grimlock. He's pretty much perfect and have even be recently re-issued.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:31 pm**

Desslok2201 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Actually, if he is as big as MP Ironhide, that would be perfect.

There's no way. If he's in scale with Prowl, he'll be smaller than Ironhide, who looks to be a new size, inbetween the standard car and Optimus size.

But then he wouldnt be in scale with MP Magnus.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:58 pm**

omega666 wrote:I wonder if it will be a remolding of the Lambor mold.

Its not gonna be... that wouldn't happen.... its nothing like that masterpiece wouldn't make inaccurate figures it doesn't make figures that are just remolds for every single character

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:03 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Actually, if he is as big as MP Ironhide, that would be perfect.

There's no way. If he's in scale with Prowl, he'll be smaller than Ironhide, who looks to be a new size, inbetween the standard car and Optimus size.

But then he wouldnt be in scale with MP Magnus.

How do you figure? If Hot Rod is scaled to standard car size (let's assume for the sake of argument that in the movie he's the same size as Prowl, Sideswipe, etc) then he is scaled to MP Optimus, who is scaled to MP Ultra Magnus.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:05 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Actually, if he is as big as MP Ironhide, that would be perfect.

There's no way. If he's in scale with Prowl, he'll be smaller than Ironhide, who looks to be a new size, inbetween the standard car and Optimus size.

But then he wouldnt be in scale with MP Magnus.

He actually would be in scale since hes hot rod not rodimus prime

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:07 pm**

I've been wanting a good Rodimus for a long time, since I never got the original MP mold. I hope they may release him as Hot Rod by himself, and maybe sell the trailer separately later. I just don't want t have 2 Hot Rods just to have the trailer.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:17 pm**

SillySpringer wrote:I've been wanting a good Rodimus for a long time, since I never got the original MP mold. I hope they may release him as Hot Rod by himself, and maybe sell the trailer separately later. I just don't want t have 2 Hot Rods just to have the trailer.

This time around, I think they would release Rodimus Prime as his own mold. Maybe a 150-200$ leader sized bot. Also, the "trailer" part may not separate, or just a very small part would come off à la MP Ironhide as a G1 hommage.

Hot Rod will only be his own

car-sized mold for sure. Having a separate "trailer" accessory would make no sense because the bot would never be Rodimus Prime. Unless said trailer partform as an armor upgrade to make Hot Rod into Rodimus Prime. Maybe a 3p company would do it, but I don't think Takara would go that route.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:20 pm**

It's disappointing they're going back and creating a new design for a character that has recently (close enough to recently) already received a MP design over other characters that the fans have been screaming out for for a long time.

Heck, most of us would have welcome a redesigned Megatron, but instead they only go back to Hot Rod/Rodimus to "fix".

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:29 pm**

The silhouette looks a bit top heavy. One too many nights at the energon pub after that Arcee-Springer thing got serious, I guess...

:-D

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:36 pm**

Burn wrote:It's disappointing they're going back and creating a new design for a character that has recently (close enough to recently) already received a MP design over other characters that the fans have been screaming out for for a long time.

Heck, most of us would have welcome a redesigned Megatron, but instead they only go back to Hot Rod/Rodimus to "fix".

I kinda agree here. I also want some goddamn

that are not seekers or

repaints.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:43 pm**

-Kanrabat- wrote:I kinda agree here. I also want some goddamn that are not seekers or repaints.

Exactly! I can't understand the logic behind re-doing a character because "it could be done better" ahead of unique Decepticon characters.

Hell, if you want to re-do a character, re-do the **** seekers and give them coneheads! GUARANTEED MONEY FOR LESS DESIGN TIME!

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:39 pm**

-Kanrabat- wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:I've been wanting a good Rodimus for a long time, since I never got the original MP mold. I hope they may release him as Hot Rod by himself, and maybe sell the trailer separately later. I just don't want t have 2 Hot Rods just to have the trailer.

This time around, I think they would release Rodimus Prime as his own mold. Maybe a 150-200$ leader sized bot. Also, the "trailer" part may not separate, or just a very small part would come off à la MP Ironhide as a G1 hommage.

Hot Rod will only be his own car-sized mold for sure. Having a separate "trailer" accessory would make no sense because the bot would never be Rodimus Prime. Unless said trailer partform as an armor upgrade to make Hot Rod into Rodimus Prime. Maybe a 3p company would do it, but I don't think Takara would go that route.

It would be amazing though if they made Hot Rod a car sized bot, and then he also has that trailer, which you can combine with him, and make him Optimus MP sized. I don't think that would happen, but it would be brilliant.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:06 pm**

Burn wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I kinda agree here. I also want some goddamn that are not seekers or repaints.

Exactly! I can't understand the logic behind re-doing a character because "it could be done better" ahead of unique Decepticon characters.

Hell, if you want to re-do a character, re-do the **** seekers and give them coneheads! GUARANTEED MONEY FOR LESS DESIGN TIME!

Would the coneheads, Insecticons and Shockwave be the only decepticons to do before the movie that arent Combiners or Triple Changers?

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:10 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
Burn wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I kinda agree here. I also want some goddamn that are not seekers or repaints.

Exactly! I can't understand the logic behind re-doing a character because "it could be done better" ahead of unique Decepticon characters.

Hell, if you want to re-do a character, re-do the **** seekers and give them coneheads! GUARANTEED MONEY FOR LESS DESIGN TIME!

Would the coneheads, Insecticons and Shockwave be the only decepticons to do before the movie that arent Combiners or Triple Changers?

Speaking of triple changers, an MP Blitzwing would be interesting...

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:20 pm**

Seibertron wrote:
Glarryg wrote:I'm definitely up for this. Missed out on MP Roddy the first time, and it's hard to justify inflated eBay prices for a figure I know will come with flaws. At this point, I'd be happy with a re-release that fixes the QC issues.

Glarryg

I'll gladly take an all-new MP Rodimus! MP-09 Rodimus was one of the worst Transformers to come out. He should've been Rodimus or he should've been Rodimus Convoy. Trying to do both just sacrificed the entire toy ... so much so that Rodimus Convoy's vehicle mode had more in common with a Pretender vehicle than the original Rodimus. This picture says it all:

It paper, it sounded good but the implementation was too ambitious not to mention those exploding joints and the none use of die-cast on his knees. Cost cutting idiocy or just to dense to even think.

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:01 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
Burn wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I kinda agree here. I also want some goddamn that are not seekers or repaints.

Exactly! I can't understand the logic behind re-doing a character because "it could be done better" ahead of unique Decepticon characters.

Hell, if you want to re-do a character, re-do the **** seekers and give them coneheads! GUARANTEED MONEY FOR LESS DESIGN TIME!

Would the coneheads, Insecticons and Shockwave be the only decepticons to do before the movie that arent Combiners or Triple Changers?

Without checking a list, quite possibly.

It'd be a good start. Insecticons don't have to be too big either, they could probably sell them as a boxset (as should Reflector)

Posted: **Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:12 pm**

You know, this has me thinking. The auobots always outnumbere the Decepticons which for a while were just 5 dudes with a handful of smaller robots. The autobots even got a whole clan of Dinosaur robots added to their roster before the Decepticon got any new recruits. The Decepticons even found one of their own stuck in the ice and he just leaves them to join the autobots. I mean, for f#$k's sake, they never stood a chance.

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