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Redimus wrote:Am I the only one who is very disapointed with leader brawl on the evidence of this (and other) galleries?

Ignoring robot mode for a second, lets list the problems (as I see it) with the alt mode:

Poorly hidden feet.
Very obvious missmatching of molded and painted colours (could be down to photography)
No atempt what-so-ever to hide his head.
Transparent end of main gun barrel and entirly transparent missil pods.
Random extra kibble on the front between the two sets of prongs (which im certain was not in the movie).

I think overall his robot mode looks pretty good, but for a leader class toy to have that many glaring (and lazy) flaws in alt mode is just crap.

Hasbro will have to work a LOT harder to make me part with £50 for this toy.

His head's hidden quite well In my opinion.
As for the transparent parts, If I do somehow get £40 and buy him the first thing I do, before even transforming him, is ignoring the lights & sound thing, painting the transparent parts & saving money on batteries.
As for the bits between the prongs we see on the deluxe, they must be easy to remove. I'd have to see one in real life before deciding on that.
I believe the colours are due to the photos.
And finally the feet. Well the Deluxe has poorly hidden feet, I don't know if that's actually that much of a negative.

Either way, if I somehow gain/win £40, he's mine.

that looks soooo good i have the deluxe but im still gettin this one

Redimus wrote:Am I the only one who is very disapointed with leader brawl on the evidence of this (and other) galleries?

Ignoring robot mode for a second, lets list the problems (as I see it) with the alt mode:

Poorly hidden feet.
Very obvious missmatching of molded and painted colours (could be down to photography)
No atempt what-so-ever to hide his head.
Transparent end of main gun barrel and entirly transparent missil pods.
Random extra kibble on the front between the two sets of prongs (which im certain was not in the movie).

I think overall his robot mode looks pretty good, but for a leader class toy to have that many glaring (and lazy) flaws in alt mode is just crap.

Hasbro will have to work a LOT harder to make me part with £50 for this toy.

1-Feet looks like barrels hanging off the tank. I don't see a problem with that.
2-Colors ARE matching, just bad photography.
3-Head can be turned around, it's just not in the instructions.
4-Transparent parts are required for the light to shine through maybe?
5-Kibble can be folded back on the tank. Again, I don't see a problem with that.
6-Tank mode looks like crap? You neeed to have your eyes checked and quick buddy, this is the best tankformer we ever got. It's like, super obvious?

Seriously, if you hate Brawl, then you must REALLY REALLY hate Prime with his poorly hidden gun and REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY hate Megatron.

Justicity wrote:His head's hidden quite well In my opinion.

Peek-a-boo!

Justicity wrote:As for the transparent parts, If I do somehow get £40 and buy him the first thing I do, before even transforming him, is ignoring the lights & sound thing, painting the transparent parts & saving money on batteries.

You shouldnt HAVE TO paint a fricking £40 figure!

Justicity wrote:As for the bits between the prongs we see on the deluxe, they must be easy to remove.

They're not on the deluxe, nor the FAB (both of which I rather like) nor the movie or game designs.
If you are not sure what I mean, I mean this:

(Also note the utterly unpainted and stick out ugly headlights that dont even apear to sit strait.)

Justicity wrote:And finally the feet. Well the Deluxe has poorly hidden feet, I don't know if that's actually that much of a negative.

They are better hidden/less prominant (the fuel tanks do a good job of hiding them to an extent) on the Deluxe. And a Deluxe is £10 (less at TrU at the mo) worth of toy, you dont expect the same level of engineering and ingenuity that you do for a £40 toy. Its like saying 'I would have no problem with Leader prime having half his altmode on his back, cuase Voyager Prime does'.

Im sorry, apart from Prime, the more expensive movie toys have been poor. Megatron (meh toy, terrible colours), Ultimate Bumbles (meh toy, terrible price), and now leader Brawl.

And megatroptimus, I do hate movie megs.

Redimus wrote:

Justicity wrote:As for the bits between the prongs we see on the deluxe, they must be easy to remove.

They're not on the deluxe, nor the FAB (both of which I rather like) nor the movie or game designs.
If you are not sure what I mean, I mean this:

(Also note the utterly unpainted and stick out ugly headlights that dont even apear to sit strait.)

I'm in a rush so I only have time to reply to this part.
I know what you mean, but you don't understand what I mean...

By "the bits between the prongs we see on the deluxe" I meant the bits between the prongs which we also see on the deluxe.
I assumed you would have read that the same way as I did. Apparently not.

Justicity wrote:

Redimus wrote:

Justicity wrote:As for the bits between the prongs we see on the deluxe, they must be easy to remove.

They're not on the deluxe, nor the FAB (both of which I rather like) nor the movie or game designs.
If you are not sure what I mean, I mean this:

(Also note the utterly unpainted and stick out ugly headlights that dont even apear to sit strait.)

I'm in a rush so I only have time to reply to this part.
I know what you mean, but you don't understand what I mean...

By "the bits between the prongs we see on the deluxe" I meant the bits between the prongs which we also see on the deluxe.
I assumed you would have read that the same way as I did. Apparently not.

Im still struggling to follow you. Tere are no bits between the prongs on the deluxe one. I know, it's stood right here.

megatroptimus wrote:2-Colors ARE matching, just bad photography.

Huh?

Redimus wrote:

Justicity wrote:

Redimus wrote:

Justicity wrote:As for the bits between the prongs we see on the deluxe, they must be easy to remove.

They're not on the deluxe, nor the FAB (both of which I rather like) nor the movie or game designs.
If you are not sure what I mean, I mean this:

(Also note the utterly unpainted and stick out ugly headlights that dont even apear to sit strait.)

I'm in a rush so I only have time to reply to this part.
I know what you mean, but you don't understand what I mean...

By "the bits between the prongs we see on the deluxe" I meant the bits between the prongs which we also see on the deluxe.
I assumed you would have read that the same way as I did. Apparently not.

Im still struggling to follow you. Tere are no bits between the prongs on the deluxe one. I know, it's stood right here.

Exactly....
It's the PRONGS that we see on the deluxe...
"the bits between the prongs, the same prongs which we also see on the deluxe"

Is that simple, & spelled out enough for you to understand?

Seibertron wrote:

megatroptimus wrote:2-Colors ARE matching, just bad photography.

Huh?

Question. Is the plastic bit, the foldy up-down thing, between the prongs important to the figure? Is it possible to unscrew it/pull/break it off?
I assume you know what I mean, the bit that appears for this figure but isn't on the deluxe, FAB, movie or game design?

Yeah, I don't understand the point of the middle bit either. I'm sure you can take them off if you want. Might have to pop out pins, I'm not sure what's holding them in place. I don't have the figure in front of me at the moment.

Justicity wrote:

Redimus wrote:

Justicity wrote:

Redimus wrote:

Justicity wrote:As for the bits between the prongs we see on the deluxe, they must be easy to remove.

They're not on the deluxe, nor the FAB (both of which I rather like) nor the movie or game designs.
If you are not sure what I mean, I mean this:

(Also note the utterly unpainted and stick out ugly headlights that dont even apear to sit strait.)

I'm in a rush so I only have time to reply to this part.
I know what you mean, but you don't understand what I mean...

By "the bits between the prongs we see on the deluxe" I meant the bits between the prongs which we also see on the deluxe.
I assumed you would have read that the same way as I did. Apparently not.

Im still struggling to follow you. Tere are no bits between the prongs on the deluxe one. I know, it's stood right here.

Exactly....
It's the PRONGS that we see on the deluxe...
"the bits between the prongs, the same prongs which we also see on the deluxe"

Is that simple, & spelled out enough for you to understand?

Actually, those extra bits aren't prongs. Leader Brawl's just happy to see everyone... if ya know what I mean.

There is a rumor going around the reason this got a leaderclass figure becuase it was the first megatron concept but they changed the name slaped another head on it and called it brawl

I Freakin' love this toy. The design is great, and the toy is wonderfully sculpted and has great paint detailing - I only wish they would have used a more noticeable shade of green instead of olive-brown.

Is this an example of the miscolors on the figure?



If so, that's just the lighting. Sometimes paint apps and colored plastic don't always turn out the same with my lighting or camera. Not sure which.

Seibertron wrote:Is this an example of the miscolors on the figure?



If so, that's just the lighting. Sometimes paint apps and colored plastic don't always turn out the same with my lighting or camera. Not sure which.

Yes. So you are saying the painted apps DONT look as out of place as they do in the photos? This is good.

And Justicity.... wha? I am talking about the bit INBETWEEN THE THINGS all the other versions have. See my pic. Im sorry, I still dont see this figue bering worth Leader prices. If it were cheaper, I'd snap it up in a flash, and be damn pleased too. But as it is. No. Hasbro/Takara could and should have done better.

Redimus wrote:And Justicity.... wha? I am talking about the bit INBETWEEN THE THINGS all the other versions have. See my pic. Im sorry, I still dont see this figue bering worth Leader prices. If it were cheaper, I'd snap it up in a flash, and be damn pleased too. But as it is. No. Hasbro/Takara could and should have done better.[/color]

I know you are! So am I!!!
Geez, I don't know how I could make this any easier for you to understand!
Just leave it...

I didnt want him but after seeing the gallery i do now. Its looks like a great figure. Since i didnt get the deluxe version (dont think i will,cant find him) i'll have to pick this one up. Nice photos seibs.

Man, if Leader Brawl is not worthy of the leader class, then no other f*cking TF is because he sure beats the crap out of all the leader figures we've had in the past 3-4 lines.

megatroptimus wrote:Man, if Leader Brawl is not worthy of the leader class, then no other f*cking TF is because he sure beats the crap out of all the leader figures we've had in the past 3-4 lines.

I don't know if I'd go that far, but I would most certainly say that Brawl is a very kick ass figure. He could of used a few more paint apps in my opinion but other than that, I love the guy. Awesome figure!

he's cool and all, but could someone please tell me where the advanced automorph feature is and what the heck it does?

i can't wait to see Jin repaint this guy!!

Burnup Prime wrote:he's cool and all, but could someone please tell me where the advanced automorph feature is and what the heck it does?

Head pops out and cow catchers move inward, a bit à la Leader Prime. He has other minor automorphing bits too (arm cannons, and some automorphing in the upper turret during transformation).

damn i want him

Hmm, Leader Class Brawl, looks better then I expected. Very nice indeed

Lord~Soundwave wrote:There is a rumor going around the reason this got a leaderclass figure becuase it was the first megatron concept but they changed the name slaped another head on it and called it brawl

Yes that makes a lot of sense to me. I was wondering why on earth did they choose Brawl to be Leader class. The decision was obviously made very, very early on. I do remember reading somewhere that the original concept Megatron was supposed to be a tank. I don't suppose it would fit the plot of the movie though... Megatron is frozen for millenia in his original Cybertronian form so how came by the tank?