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Seibertron wrote:* sigh *

I had hoped that we had seen the last of the Shattered Glass storyline. Never been a fan of "heroic" Decepticons and "evil" Autobots. Doesn't make any sense at all. Fun for a "what if" storyline but not for an entire BotCon set, club comics and additional club exclusive figures.

Also not a fan that the Cyclonus mold has now been used twice as an "Autobot". I call blasphemy.

Surprised so many of you like this.

I'll second this. I can't believe the SG storyline has lasted this long.

I like the Shattered Glass stuff. I thought most of the figures were done really well. And I like the homage to Star Trek's Mirror Universe. I'm glad they are doing this figure. and very glad I didn't buy Strafe

Maybe it's just me, but to me any toy that is red and yellow = McDonald's. It looks like a French Fry Flyer that will transform into Ronald McDonaldbot.

Seibertron wrote:* sigh *

I had hoped that we had seen the last of the Shattered Glass storyline. Never been a fan of "heroic" Decepticons and "evil" Autobots. Doesn't make any sense at all. Fun for a "what if" storyline but not for an entire BotCon set, club comics and additional club exclusive figures.

Also not a fan that the Cyclonus mold has now been used twice as an "Autobot". I call blasphemy.

Surprised so many of you like this.

I've got to go with the boss man on this one. I bought SG Rodimus for his cool goatee, but that's where the fascination with the storyline ended for me. This doesn't look bad, but I'm still on the fence. Punch/Counterpunch is a no-brainer, but this one might be a no-buyer.

Oh yes! I've been wanting this ever since I read the comic at Botcon 08! Bring it!

Hmm... I'm sure I will get it. Robot mode pics will be helpful ultimately.

So two deluxes as the exclusives? And they will cost probably $40 each. Not sure on this guy. SG does nothing for me, even though it was interesting at the time, but to keep it going. The comic is done with that arc as well, I would suppose their next club comic arc will focus on Punch/Counterpunch.

So I take back my immediate, "I'll get it" and I'll wait to see if it's significantly different enough to spend the money for.

Seibertron wrote:* sigh *

I had hoped that we had seen the last of the Shattered Glass storyline. Never been a fan of "heroic" Decepticons and "evil" Autobots. Doesn't make any sense at all. Fun for a "what if" storyline but not for an entire BotCon set, club comics and additional club exclusive figures.

Also not a fan that the Cyclonus mold has now been used twice as an "Autobot". I call blasphemy.

Surprised so many of you like this.

AGREED! FTW!

Word!! This guy is soo bought. I love the SG story line and this being a Cyclonus mold is just another win in my book.

Well, I guess I likeed it since it spurred me into joining the club last night!

Once I have it in hand, I can always re-sell it to someone who missed out if I don't like it!

Son of a bitch, now I need to renew my membership and I am PISS POOR after having moved.
Anyone wanna front me exclusives money?

Geekee1 wrote:Oh yes! I've been wanting this ever since I read the comic at Botcon 08! Bring it!

Dude, it wan't until months later, after the fiction continued that I really started kicking myself for not securing that Botcon set. I'm so damn flip floppity. Fiction sells me. I'm still trying to acquire them. Pretty pleased with Cyclonus here!

Hehe, just thought of something. We now have SG Cyclonus coming out, so Henkei Strafe could be used as his SG Armada!!

Is that paint..... glossy?
If it is, I can fake it as a Heinki figure.

DCybertron wrote:Is that paint..... glossy?
If it is, I can fake it as a Heinki figure.

I think it's just the photoshop that makes it look like that.

Savage wrote:The fandom said a Cyclonus mold couldn't be repainted.
Has/Tak/FunPub said "Watch this."

Four color schemes from a Cyclonus mold? And they sell like hotcakes? Now that's just expert marketing.

Of course, it's been sold as Cyclonus, Cyclonus, Strafe and Cyclonus. So outside of Strafe they still haven't done anything wowing with the mold.

Nekoman wrote:

Savage wrote:The fandom said a Cyclonus mold couldn't be repainted.
Has/Tak/FunPub said "Watch this."

Four color schemes from a Cyclonus mold? And they sell like hotcakes? Now that's just expert marketing.

Of course, it's been sold as Cyclonus, Cyclonus, Strafe and Cyclonus. So outside of Strafe they still haven't done anything wowing with the mold.

And that's definitely a matter of opinion. IMO the Hasbro version was the best as long as you carefully take a silver metallic sharpie to his face. The light lavender Takara Tomy version just doesn't do it for me.

Seibertron wrote:

Nekoman wrote:

Savage wrote:The fandom said a Cyclonus mold couldn't be repainted.
Has/Tak/FunPub said "Watch this."

Four color schemes from a Cyclonus mold? And they sell like hotcakes? Now that's just expert marketing.

Of course, it's been sold as Cyclonus, Cyclonus, Strafe and Cyclonus. So outside of Strafe they still haven't done anything wowing with the mold.

And that's definitely a matter of opinion. IMO the Hasbro version was the best as long as you carefully take a silver metallic sharpie to his face. The light lavender Takara Tomy version just doesn't do it for me.

I actually really like both versions (Universe and Henkei), just saying they haven't found any other uses for the mold outside of Cyclonus himself.

Nekoman wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Nekoman wrote:

Savage wrote:The fandom said a Cyclonus mold couldn't be repainted.
Has/Tak/FunPub said "Watch this."

Four color schemes from a Cyclonus mold? And they sell like hotcakes? Now that's just expert marketing.

Of course, it's been sold as Cyclonus, Cyclonus, Strafe and Cyclonus. So outside of Strafe they still haven't done anything wowing with the mold.

And that's definitely a matter of opinion. IMO the Hasbro version was the best as long as you carefully take a silver metallic sharpie to his face. The light lavender Takara Tomy version just doesn't do it for me.

I actually really like both versions (Universe and Henkei), just saying they haven't found any other uses for the mold outside of Cyclonus himself.

And thats a bad thing? With reasoning like this, we'll never see new molds that won't be designed specifically for the purpose of repaints.

I thought Cyclonus himself was enough WOW, but if you're reasoning a molds values based off its repaintablility, we will see nothing but a barrage of Seeker repaints, and another 50 Optimus Primes.

Haha, what, Cyclonus gets to be Hot Rod? lol, that's awesome! I probably won't buy it since it has no place in my collection (G1 homages only), but still, that's pretty cool. Also I'm not in the club, so I still don't even have that Astrotrain I want. :p

First Gen wrote:

Nekoman wrote:I actually really like both versions (Universe and Henkei), just saying they haven't found any other uses for the mold outside of Cyclonus himself.

And thats a bad thing? With reasoning like this, we'll never see new molds that won't be designed specifically for the purpose of repaints.

I thought Cyclonus himself was enough WOW, but if you're reasoning a molds values based off its repaintablility, we will see nothing but a barrage of Seeker repaints, and another 50 Optimus Primes.

I think you missed my point. I'm just saying it's not really worth patting anyone on the back for repainting Cyclonus into Cyclonus.

There's plenty of other things Hasbro and everyone else could do with that mold. No one saw Fracture coming from Classics Mirage, repaint Cyclonus into another Go-bot, or better make up a NEW character to repaint him into.

I'm not saying a mold should always be designed for repaints, I just think they should come up with better repaints.

amazin this 'll look great on my shelf

Despite already repainting my own Cyclonus as SG Cyclonus, I will be getting this. I will use my repaint as SG Armada since it is slightly different.

First Gen wrote:I thought Cyclonus himself was enough WOW, but if you're reasoning a molds values based off its repaintablility, we will see nothing but a barrage of Seeker repaints, and another 50 Optimus Primes.

I'm pretty sure this is already something that Hasbro and Takara Tomy takes into consideration with each mold they create. I think if you look at the span of the Transformers brand since 1994 (starting with G2's new molds ... the 93 molds were carry overs from Europe, with the exception of Megatron (who was repainted in BWII)), you'll see that the majority of the toys have been repainted at least once or twice.

Sideswipe and Sunstreaker are the PERFECT example of Hasbro really thinking through the process of reusing a mold later on. I think they should do this on all character specific molds, such as Cyclonus. Something they should have done with Cyclonus' mold is figure out what to do with the "ears" in robot mode. If they had just gotten creative with the ears such as the ability to remove them to combine them as a weapon or to fold them back during the transformation process, it would've easily provided them with a unique mold to use as another character or two.

I must admit that I prefer drastic repaints over minor repaints released as the same character later down the road, though when I look at it from a marketing perspective, I get why Hasbro is doing minor repaints because it keeps the primary character on the shelf longer but with a different SKU (?) which keeps retailers happy because it's a "new" product.

Like they did with Sideswipe, they could probably just give him a new head.

And with the way they wings are made, they could probably mold a new pair of wings rather easily and make a new character out of the same basic mold.

I could easily see them repaint it into say Snapdragon minus the dragon mode. Or a Gobot.

I think this mold is going to see a regular release repaint/remold (perhaps a store exclusive) for the 2010 re-launch of the Universe type line.

Just like Dinobot, and Cheetor, and even more likely Hot Shot. (anybody waiting for Powerlinx Hotshot? )

UUUGGGHHHHH !!! It looks like a marvel crossover for mega man. When I said re-use the molds to give more collectors a chance to own, this is not what I meant.