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Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:15 pm**

o.supreme wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:These are the only two I'm still waiting for.

Same. Does anyone know if TFSource has shipped any out yet? Just curious because I ordered the first 4 from Asia directly, but ordered these last 2 from TFSource because they were available. Just wondering if they ship earlier than Hasbro Pulse, or on about the same schedule...or if they haven't shipped any yet, that would be a bit concerning.

Also I know the fun of these Seacons is you can configure them many different ways. I was a bit surprised however that Turtler's instructions didn't have an *official* suggested combination, they just show an image of how Gulf/Skalor can be an arm, leg, or weapon.

Ill have fun messing with these guys, but when he goes on display it will be in official King Poseidon formation.

IIRC the only difference between Piranacon and King Poseidon was that for:

Piranacon: Right Arm= Overbite & Weapon= Lobclaw/Nautilator
King Poseidon Right Arm= Lobclaw/Nautilator & Weapon= Overbite

I think thats right, but its been a long time since I've owned the original Piranacon...It will be nice when this selects King Poseidon is complete

TFSource has shipped out all of the figures except Overbite and Tentakil.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:32 pm**

The colors on these figures are pretty nice too look at.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:48 pm**

I think I'll go with the head canon that these two are female. Tentakill for the obvious reason and something about Overbite's face gives off a feminine impression to me.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:55 pm**

Tentakil I can see, because of his reuse of Moonracer's upper body minus the chest (makes an easy redeco into God Neptune's Scylla). You know, he could totally go for the charming bishonen trope as the US guy is described as rather charming in his Marvel bio.

o.supreme wrote:IIRC the only difference between Piranacon and King Poseidon was that for:

Piranacon: Right Arm= Overbite & Weapon= Lobclaw/Nautilator
King Poseidon Right Arm= Lobclaw/Nautilator & Weapon= Overbite

I think thats right, but its been a long time since I've owned the original Piranacon...It will be nice when this selects King Poseidon is complete

With all 6 members, King Poseidon and Piranacon have the same main configuration in the media they appeared in, as explained a few pages back:

Right Arm: Nautilator
Left Arm: Seawing
Right Leg: Skalor
Left Leg: Tantakil
Weapon: Overbite

The US instructions however give two more; one with, and one without Nautilator. It's all a few pages back.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:34 pm**

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:With all 6 members, King Poseidon and Piranacon have the same main configuration in the media they appeared in, as explained a few pages back:

Right Arm: Nautilator
Left Arm: Seawing
Right Leg: Skalor
Left Leg: Tantakil
Weapon: Overbite

The US instructions however give two more; one with, and one without Nautilator. It's all a few pages back.

That makes sense, even aesthetically, as Nautilator and Seawing are both majority grey, black, and teal, and Skalor and Tentakil are both majority pink, magenta and blue. Overbite is the only one to have purple as his main color.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:56 pm**

Of course, "default limb configuration" is a minor point of difference in "Scramble City" type combiners.

The biggest difference between G1 King Poseidon and Piranacon is that the Piranacon boxset left out Nautilator because including him would have meant a bigger box just for the Seacons. An early example of Hasbro being anal about uniformity.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:01 pm**

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Of course, "default limb configuration" is a minor point of difference in "Scramble City" type combiners.

The biggest difference between G1 King Poseidon and Piranacon is that the Piranacon boxset left out Nautilator. An early example of Hasbro being anal about uniformity.

Yes and no? I mean, yes they did leave Nautilator out of the giftset, but he was available individually. He was in the comics, too. If they were that tight about uniformity, they'd never have made a fifth Seacon limb in the first place.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:26 pm**

Bounti76 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Of course, "default limb configuration" is a minor point of difference in "Scramble City" type combiners.

The biggest difference between G1 King Poseidon and Piranacon is that the Piranacon boxset left out Nautilator. An early example of Hasbro being anal about uniformity.

Yes and no? I mean, yes they did leave Nautilator out of the giftset, but he was available individually. He was in the comics, too. If they were that tight about uniformity, they'd never have made a fifth Seacon limb in the first place.

I edited the post to clarify what I meant.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:32 pm**

Makes one wonder why Hasbro made five limbs in the first place.

It's not like any of their Targetmaster modes were all that impressive.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:17 pm**

Probably for the sake of mixing things up, trying something new with a combiner.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:06 pm**

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Of course, "default limb configuration" is a minor point of difference in "Scramble City" type combiners.

The biggest difference between G1 King Poseidon and Piranacon is that the Piranacon boxset left out Nautilator. An early example of Hasbro being anal about uniformity.

Yes and no? I mean, yes they did leave Nautilator out of the giftset, but he was available individually. He was in the comics, too. If they were that tight about uniformity, they'd never have made a fifth Seacon limb in the first place.
I edited the post to clarify what I meant.

Gotcha. I get what you mean now. I guess I never really thought about the size of the gifset boxes- the only complete combiner I had as a kid was Computron, and got all his components individually. All the team set boxes were the same size, then?

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:19 pm**

I think all six could have been offered in the Piranacon box set, in the original series box sizes were not that standard. I really can't think of a logical reason why Nautilator was left out of the box set. But all that aside, I'm glad the selects versions exist, and will soon be complete.

Posted: **Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:45 pm**

o.supreme wrote:I think all six could have been offered in the Piranacon box set, in the original series box sizes were not that standard. I really can't think of a logical reason why Nautilator was left out of the box set. But all that aside, I'm glad the selects versions exist, and will soon be complete.

Did the giftsets have a set pricepoint? If so, then perhaps a sixth figure would have upped the price of the Piranacon giftset in enough of a difference that might have made retailers not want to have to make a separate spot on the shelf for one uniquely priced giftset of the same box size as the others that had come before it, and thus Hasbro left Nautilator out to keep the set's price the same.

Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:42 am**

My question might be a bit out of subject, but I'll ask it here anyway.

Anybody knows if there are plans for an upgrade kit(s) likes the hands and feet from Perfect Effect or Dreamwave for King Poseidon?

Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:58 am**

Daganisoraan wrote:My question might be a bit out of subject, but I'll ask it here anyway.

Anybody knows if there are plans for an upgrade kit(s) likes the hands and feet from Perfect Effect or Dreamwave for King Poseidon?

I doubt they would bother, the hands and feet are very different from CW and POTP, similar to Computron I'd say

Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:58 am**

Sabrblade wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Did the giftsets have a set pricepoint? If so, then perhaps a sixth figure would have upped the price of the Piranacon giftset in enough of a difference that might have made retailers not want to have to make a separate spot on the shelf for one uniquely priced giftset of the same box size as the others that had come before it, and thus Hasbro left Nautilator out to keep the set's price the same.

That is a good point. Not sure because the only giftset I clearly remember seeing in store was Superion, which was $40 ( would be the same if you bought Silverbolt $20 , and each smaller bot $5) separately. I know some people who got Devastator, but never saw it myself, though the individual bots were everywhere. Same for the Stunticons, Protectabots, Technobots etc.... Individual components easy to find, never saw the box sets.

Which is another reason I am glad for the Unite Warrior sets. I never understood why Hasbro US didn't do giftsets for Bruticus and Abominus. Predaking perhaps may have been a price issue as you stated, but no real reason for the others.

Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:12 am**

I’m a bit out of the loop on Selects new. Any rumors regarding future uses of the new Seacons molds?

Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:56 am**

Vic Zanzibar wrote:I’m a bit out of the loop on Selects new. Any rumors regarding future uses of the new Seacons molds?

About their only use without heavy remolding would be as the Beast Wars II Seacons/God Neptune. It's not hard to think that when you look at Tentakil, as he's got a relatively slender, feminine robot mode, and his BWII counterpart is fembot Scylla.

Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:14 pm**

Bounti76 wrote:
Vic Zanzibar wrote:I’m a bit out of the loop on Selects new. Any rumors regarding future uses of the new Seacons molds?

About their only use without heavy remolding would be as the Beast Wars II Seacons/God Neptune. It's not hard to think that when you look at Tentakil, as he's got a relatively slender, feminine robot mode, and his BWII counterpart is fembot Scylla.

That’s what I meant. Any concrete rumors on a God Neptune or TFCC colors repaint?

Posted: **Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:29 pm**

Vic Zanzibar wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:
Vic Zanzibar wrote:I’m a bit out of the loop on Selects new. Any rumors regarding future uses of the new Seacons molds?

About their only use without heavy remolding would be as the Beast Wars II Seacons/God Neptune. It's not hard to think that when you look at Tentakil, as he's got a relatively slender, feminine robot mode, and his BWII counterpart is fembot Scylla.

That’s what I meant. Any concrete rumors on a God Neptune or TFCC colors repaint?

None

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:33 am**

william-james88 wrote:
Vic Zanzibar wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:
Vic Zanzibar wrote:I’m a bit out of the loop on Selects new. Any rumors regarding future uses of the new Seacons molds?

About their only use without heavy remolding would be as the Beast Wars II Seacons/God Neptune. It's not hard to think that when you look at Tentakil, as he's got a relatively slender, feminine robot mode, and his BWII counterpart is fembot Scylla.

That’s what I meant. Any concrete rumors on a God Neptune or TFCC colors repaint?

None

I wouldn't say none entirely, they did tease the possibility at the end of the final Seacons comic showing the BWII Seacons in the Selects bodies along with a preview of Galvatron getting upgraded. It wouldn't be unreasonable to believe the next round of Takara Tomy Selects will be God Neptune and Super Megatron.

Anyway, didn't see this mentioned, but Pulse started shipping the first wave of Seacons Saturday. Mine say they're coming Wednesday which is a little surprising since I've gotten these shipping notices the same day they arrived before. The effect of COVID-19 on shipping I guess.

Emerje

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:27 am**

That Tentakil looks so good, that is the one I am most excited for.

Also really hoping for a God Neptune from this. My BWII Galvatron demands their presence

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:02 pm**

Well Pulse has the first two Seacons in stock so I cancelled my pre-orders on BBTS. Glad to have them coming.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:35 pm**

Love it, best combiner to date.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:53 pm**

I look forward to the photos of him battling Legends Super and God Ginrai

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