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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:35 pm
by Skritz
Burn wrote:
partholon wrote:on the seeker thing i really DO like the idea of a squadron of em that combines with screamer.

So now I'm curious, and I pose this question to anyone willing to chime in with an answer.

With many people opposed to the Dinobots combining, why are so many people then in favour of the Seekers combining?


Highly subjective personal tastes?

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:52 pm
by Emerje
Burn wrote:
partholon wrote:on the seeker thing i really DO like the idea of a squadron of em that combines with screamer.

So now I'm curious, and I pose this question to anyone willing to chime in with an answer.

With many people opposed to the Dinobots combining, why are so many people then in favour of the Seekers combining?

Vocal minority. I think a lot more people are happy with the Dinobots combining, but don't feel the need to jump on here and sing their praises every time it comes up.

Or maybe they were on board with the Dinobots until they saw what it did to Grimlock.

As for the Legends being out, I find it interesting that the boxes say "Prime Wars" on them instead of PotP. The last two lines had their names on the boxes, I wonder why the change?

And on a personal note, of the five Targets in the state the one near me is the only one that hasn't had any stock of PotP Deluxe figures at all. Somehow that doesn't surprise me. And for that matter none of the other size classes have been in stock at all.

Emerje

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:57 pm
by JoeIsNotCool
Found some reviews of Legends Slash and Beachcomber. Windcharger may be released later on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_e4hFJgIXk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha99HnMkRDc

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:08 pm
by ScottyP
Beachcomber and Slash are really nice. Windcharger, face aside, is almost pitch perfect. The face sculpt isn't as bad in person as in the renders, but it's still bad.

Shrapnel has a darker purple than the prior Generations release, slightly lighter yellow paint (ymmv on that), and a barely different paint app pattern on the legs. Different enough for completionists to not hate themselves, not different enough for those with the old one to really worry about :)

Also, since I've been just, man, so busy - Transformers is for everyone.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:15 pm
by bodrock
Burn wrote:
partholon wrote:on the seeker thing i really DO like the idea of a squadron of em that combines with screamer.

So now I'm curious, and I pose this question to anyone willing to chime in with an answer.

With many people opposed to the Dinobots combining, why are so many people then in favour of the Seekers combining?

I could care less for the Seekers and Dinobots combining, but I understand the appeal. Even the throttlebots got a 3P combiner.

I'm not opposed to new gestalts -- loved Victorion, after all. But for me, each individual Dinobot should be a force to be reckoned with (even though they're always together) -- them forming Volkanedaconicus seems like overkill....ah, but why not?

Mind as well make a Seeker combiner to engage Superion directly. It'd probably be easy for HasTak to retool, too. I wouldn't pick 'em up, but plenty of us would!

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:23 pm
by Skritz
Maybe its just because the only combiner of my childhood was the underwhelming Magnaboss, but I'm just really enjoying the CW stuff, even if I do regret not getting back into Transformers during that line, leaving me mostly with just the boxset and a couple of deluxes found rotting off the pegs of collector stores in the city to fill my shelves. I mean, in all honesty, it was more less an accepted 'fact' of Transformers in the modern era that I'd never get a chance to own a classic, five-bot-team combiner short of re-issues or third party figures.

Yet here we are in 2017, with Scramble City-style combiners back at mass retail complete with limb interchangeability. Well, except Predaking, apparently. Who gets to be a Titan-class figure for some reason. Bit of a shame if you ask me, would have loved more affordable deluxe Predacons.

So that's why I say: bring on the crazy combiners! I'm getting old now and don't feel the need to justify my manchild toys as 'serious'. Gimmicks don't even bother me, I've come to revel in them and accepting they are silly and fun things.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:40 pm
by Burn
I realise this is off-topic, but I just want to make people aware that **** like this

Stuartmaximus wrote:funny? coz I could've sworn that I'm still here :-D

maybe you've gone soft or something :-?

y'know what? I'll save you the trouble....good bye!

call yourself a moderator! you clearly don't have the balls to ban people! instead you procrastinate about the possibilities instead :-P


Will not be tolerated.

Seibertron.com staff take a very laid back approach to things. We don't issue warnings or bannings over small trivial matters. We let a LOT of things slide.

We endure our fair share of criticism and abuse and we cop it on the chin. We will only take so much though.

If anyone would like to discuss this with me, you're more than welcome to PM me, otherwise I apologise for the disruption. Let's get back to the POTP figures!

In-Hand Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Legend class Windcharger, Beachcomber, Slash, Sk

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:51 pm
by Va'al
From fellow Seibertronian Mindmaster, we have some in-hand images of the recently found at US retail Legend class Transformers Power of the Primes - namely Windcharger, Beachcomber, Dinobot Slash and the repurposes Insecticon Skrapnel - as we reported from Target stores.

You can find a quick summary of Mindmaster's thoughts on these four smaller toys, with Prime Master compatibility and comparison shots to other figures in the line, below!

Anyway, had some fun with them (case in point, Jurassic World reference with Slash and Windcharger using his “powers” on Beachcomber). If I had to choose a favorite, it would be Slash because she’s just freaking awesome but that’s not to say I dislike the other two. They’re all strong figures and worth getting! Just like the Deluxes, there appears to be variations of the collector card included with the Legends. I got excited at Beachcomber for a second because I saw the word “combined” and thought he could be a weapon or something with a combiner but then I finished reading and got really sad. Slash’s card is lamely yet joyfully optimistic, and Windcharger’s kinda eh.


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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:52 pm
by bodrock
Agreed, Burn.

And I hear ya, Skritz! It took me decades, but I finally came around to lovin' the Pretenders. ;)

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:11 pm
by Emerje
Can't say I'm thrilled with the hollow heads. Usually a ball joint would be used to create a space in the head or in some cases they'd mold it in two pieces held together with a screw. I don't recall any CW or TR Legends having those empty spaces. Not a great spot to be cutting costs in.

Windcharger is starting to grow on me...

Emerje

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:15 pm
by Burn
Emerje wrote:Windcharger is starting to grow on me...

I would have said the same thing, then I saw the head again.

That is just one big blocky head.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:15 pm
by chuckdawg1999
Anybody got an extra set of Legends figures they just don't know what to do with?

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:18 pm
by Ironhidensh
So, ignor img the political nonsense...... a serious question about this Jazz controversy.


Do they all have the markings, and can I tell without opening the package? The one I bought yesterday, I decided to give to the kids for Christmas, so it is already in a downstairs closet. If it, however, does have the markings, and if that might make it rare or valuable down the road, I'm gonna hold on to it. Any speculation on that, or is it too soon?

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:19 pm
by Skritz
You know, given the theory that we've already seen all three Leader-class molds I do have to wonder: could Optimus Prime and Optimal Optimus get some sort of repaint/retool, much like how TR gave us Blaster/Soundwave and Black Shadow/Overlord and if so who could they be reworked into? I find it hard to believe PotP's leader engineering would simply be just used for a recolored Rodimus with a new head. Granted its a cool-looking figure, even if I'll most likely pass.

While personally I'd love to see a fourth mold as Thunderwing and Star Saber its all speculation but it just bugs me how the PotP early waves of leaders are just Optimus Prime repack and a modified Rodimus. Granted I'm not sure who you could remold these guys as: Nova Prime seems a bit too ambitious barring total reshelling and Ultra Magnus already got a figure in CW. I'd be down for Thunderclash from the Optimus mold but I don't see how the 'power up' gimmick would work for him from a 'story' perspective.

Of course I could be entirely wrong and we really are only getting three and a half Leader-class figures.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:25 pm
by Rysquad
Found the Legends class PotP figures today. Windcharger. Yuck. Skrapnel? Pass. I'll probably get the two-pack with Reflector.

Bought Slash and Beachcomber. Pics in a bit.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:25 pm
by Emerje
ScottyP wrote:Shrapnel has a darker purple than the prior Generations release, slightly lighter yellow paint (ymmv on that), and a barely different paint app pattern on the legs. Different enough for completionists to not hate themselves, not different enough for those with the old one to really worry about :)


How does he compare with TR Kickback and CW Bombshell? The lack of a clear chest can't be helped, but would you say he's a better or a even worse match to either one now? For that matter how does he compare to Takara Tomy Legends Kickback?

Emerje

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:26 pm
by Rysquad
Skritz wrote:You know, given the theory that we've already seen all three Leader-class molds I do have to wonder: could Optimus Prime and Optimal Optimus get some sort of repaint/retool, much like how TR gave us Blaster/Soundwave and Black Shadow/Overlord and if so who could they be reworked into? I find it hard to believe PotP's leader engineering would simply be just used for a recolored Rodimus with a new head. Granted its a cool-looking figure, even if I'll most likely pass.

While personally I'd love to see a fourth mold as Thunderwing and Star Saber its all speculation but it just bugs me how the PotP early waves of leaders are just Optimus Prime repack and a modified Rodimus. Granted I'm not sure who you could remold these guys as: Nova Prime seems a bit too ambitious barring total reshelling and Ultra Magnus already got a figure in CW. I'd be down for Thunderclash from the Optimus mold but I don't see how the 'power up' gimmick would work for him from a 'story' perspective.

Of course I could be entirely wrong and we really are only getting exthree and a half Leader-class figures.


Nemesis Prime?

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:27 pm
by RiddlerJ
Skrapnel, Cosmos, Why do they keep reissuing older legends (without the accessories they originally came with)?

At least repaint them into someone new. Kickback could've been turned into Ransack AND would've been Primem Master compatable.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:44 pm
by Skritz
There was a bit of fanart/digibash I saw of an 'Armada Optimus Prime' redesign if the PotP Optimus Prime. I highly doubt we'd ever see this but it would admittedly be cool.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:34 pm
by bacem
Found a video review of beachcomber and slash.





gotta say, beachcomber's transformation is a bit more complex than i imagined. Liking him now.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:04 pm
by primalxconvoy
Firstly:

"We encourage any civil political discussion to take place in this other thread, and keep the responses to this story specifically about the toy and the Power of the Primes toyline."


Kudos to Seibertron for finding a great way to accomodate ways for different people to comment on different aspects of the same story! THIS is how you do it, other TF sites! Take note, please.

Anyway, I wonder if the "political Jazz" will become rare and thus collectible in the future. I suppose it could be assimilated/retconned into canon in some sly, acronym used in a future IDW comic? Either as repossesing it for something other than the original meaning, OR as a negative idea, somehow branded or graffitied onto Jazz against his will or while unconscious, etc?

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:05 pm
by bodrock
Ironhidensh wrote:So, ignor img the political nonsense...... a serious question about this Jazz controversy.


Do they all have the markings, and can I tell without opening the package? The one I bought yesterday, I decided to give to the kids for Christmas, so it is already in a downstairs closet. If it, however, does have the markings, and if that might make it rare or valuable down the road, I'm gonna hold on to it. Any speculation on that, or is it too soon?


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At this point, who knows? I picked one up today, but I previously wasn't planning on getting him.

Now that he's in hand, I must admit I dig that headsculpt. The alt mode is decent.....hmmm...I haven't decided if he's getting opened or not.

Swoop's a keeper, though.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:57 pm
by Ironhidensh
Well, I had a beer and opened Jazz. He has the markings, but I gotta say, as a figure, he really sucks. This is a lame toy and I'm ashamed to own it.



Then I had another beer and opened Swoop. Holy ****, but this dude is awesome. Great figure, and an amazing update of the classic Dinobot. I'm very happy to own this guy.

I had another beer, but still haven't opened Slag yet.

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:02 pm
by Emerje
Rysquad wrote:
Skritz wrote:You know, given the theory that we've already seen all three Leader-class molds I do have to wonder: could Optimus Prime and Optimal Optimus get some sort of repaint/retool, much like how TR gave us Blaster/Soundwave and Black Shadow/Overlord and if so who could they be reworked into? I find it hard to believe PotP's leader engineering would simply be just used for a recolored Rodimus with a new head. Granted its a cool-looking figure, even if I'll most likely pass.

While personally I'd love to see a fourth mold as Thunderwing and Star Saber its all speculation but it just bugs me how the PotP early waves of leaders are just Optimus Prime repack and a modified Rodimus. Granted I'm not sure who you could remold these guys as: Nova Prime seems a bit too ambitious barring total reshelling and Ultra Magnus already got a figure in CW. I'd be down for Thunderclash from the Optimus mold but I don't see how the 'power up' gimmick would work for him from a 'story' perspective.

Of course I could be entirely wrong and we really are only getting exthree and a half Leader-class figures.


Nemesis Prime?


Pretty sure Warden doesn't like Nemesis Prime/Scourge. We got a bunch of them in the Archer days, but I don't think we've gotten a single one since Warden took over despite many opportunities. We got Primitive Prime back as SDCC, but that's not quite the same, I'm pretty sure they didn't design that paint scheme alone.

Emerje

Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:08 pm
by SpikeyTigertron
I still don't get why everyone's knocking Windcharger.... His head is pretty spot-on for G1 imo... Sure... the previous legends may have looked "cooler" or "more interesting". But going back to his roots... he was a literal blockhead. I personally like it, though I've always liked windcharger (and brawn).