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Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder if that Irondide will have painted clear plastics, or all solid plastics.

I would bet with that “inner chest” molded detail that’s a piece of solid plastic.

At the very least, that part, yes. But I'm also talking about everything else like the side panels and roof bits. I would have a better clue if the guns were not pegged on the roof of the van.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder if that Irondide will have painted clear plastics, or all solid plastics.

I would bet with that “inner chest” molded detail that’s a piece of solid plastic.

At the very least, that part, yes. But I'm also talking about everything else like the side panels and roof bits. I would have a better clue if the guns were not pegged on the roof of the van.

Doubtful…
Hastak isn’t going to go all solid plastic on this mold now…
They’re probably thinking the solid inner chest and the yellow stripes are more than enough of an “upgrade” for this figure.

Jtprime17 has given an update on the Buzzworthy Bumblebee Studio Series 86-24 Ironhide and 86-20 Prowl. Along with our first look at Ironhide we see that these figures do indeed come with blast effect parts. The box doesn't really mention the characters' demise and shows the characters in action poses, but we all know what this represents. As we've seen with other Buzzworthy SS86 figures Ironhide will also be trading in the clear blue windows for painted ones as well as massive chest windshield damage. The price is reported to be MSRP: $55.98 and DCPI: 087-26-0165, a great price for a Deluxe and a Voyager. Another big thanks to Sowndwave76 for letting us know!

Why didn't they paint the rest of Ironhide's window? Did the paint budget run out midway through? I guess a Ratchet and Brawn set is next. Maybe a Megatron? But it's in the Buzzworthy line so maybe it's a scrapped idea for a "death" subline.

I do like that chest damage molding on Ironhide.

Oh so this version get the stipe. lol
If the damaged sections were swap out panels I'd be more inclined to consider purchasing it, but being they're in permanent damage mode I'll have to pass. Now the wait for Hound to see how disappointing that turns one out as well.

I wonder why this Ironhide has the stripe and the actual SS86 figure doesn't.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder why this Ironhide has the stripe and the actual SS86 figure doesn't.

Imo it's Hastak throwing in something that they hope people will find appealing enough to bite.

I don't want any TF figure(s) to flop, but I hope this is it for the "dead"-themed figures...
Ratchet and Brawn could be next, but damn, please no.

Till-all-R1 wrote:Oh so this version get the stipe. lol
If the damaged sections were swap out panels I'd be more inclined to consider purchasing it, but being they're in permanent damage mode I'll have to pass. Now the wait for Hound to see how disappointing that turns one out as well.

I had the same thought with damaged parts that could be completely removed...
Especially with a more screen-accurate Prowl, that could have been enough for me to get this set.

Like I said before, a SS86 Buzzworthy 2-pack was a perfect opportunity to get Sunstreaker and Hound released. The inner packaging backdrop could've been the back of the shuttle with the ramp deployed...
And with it being "ER" Hound's first (and possibly only) release, I would've been okay if Sunstreaker was literally just the ER version.
This was a missed opportunity on a few accounts.

We got dead Ironhide before we got Ratchet

Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Such heroic nonsense.


I love it.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.

Might be my first Ironhide at least it has the stripes, not keen on the windows for prowl. Just makes the figure look cheap but it's doubtful they will do dead versions again.

blackeyedprime wrote:Might be my first Ironhide at least it has the stripes, not keen on the windows for prowl. Just makes the figure look cheap but it's doubtful they will do dead versions again.

He didn't die in car mode.

But not to simply be flip, the color of the glass is exactly how it was in the movie.

I don't know why but I want this set! Zombie transformers. One so close to the end that I could use Unicron or one of his minions to resurrect

Ironhide should be missing a head (at least) and have one "pleading" hand, not two fists. As mentioned before, Prowl needs effects parts and/or ports for his eyes and mouth...

I was joking with a friend, as to who would come next in this "dead" line. Wouldn't it be funny if this line marked the debut of Windcharger?



Who hasn't had a new figure since 2018.

I admit, getting rid of the clear plastic has some allure to it. That clear stuff is notoriously brittle and I've seen many horror stories about the Prowl mold especially, with critical parts that break and snap major sections off just while transforming.

The combination of using weak plastic on critical transformation parts that require a lot of pressure and leverage when transforming was a horrible idea from an engineering perspective. Sure, let's make the support towers for this suspension bridge out of balsa wood and graham cracker, that sounds smart.

If they use more robust plastic for this Ironhide/Prowl, then the 'dead' versions could wind up being tougher and more long-wearing than the 'live' versions.

And how come only Optimus Prime's figure got the grey paint 'dead' makeover? If all cybertronians turn grey when they 'die', shouldn't all the dead figures get that color scheme? This kind of reaping detail is important to me, if nobody else... .

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.

No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?

And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

Rodimus Prime wrote:And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

Possibly in the RED line IE no altmodes needed...

Rodimus Prime wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.

No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?

And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

The assumption on my part was that he meant the packaging. LOL

sol magnus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.

No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?

And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

The assumption on my part was that he meant the packaging. LOL

I was just being snarky. I did think you were referring to Kup and Cliffy's windshields at 1st, since they were painted in their BB versions.

I'm glad this is out there for the people that want it, but I dont need it. But I thought for a second about getting it just to switch my previous 2 pack Prowl's legs for these. Also I so really hope this is a new trend of no clear type plastic and having painted on windows. I would love to have those blast effects though.

I'm having a bit of a memory haze regarding this feature and what line it was actually in, but I thought it was Transformers back in the day that featured battle damage by having a part/piece that flips/rolls back and forth. Maybe if they couldn't have swap out battle damage parts as it appears the whole from section would be too complicated for a consumer to do it, that they should have done what I'm talking about?

I get that these slight retools are fairly cheap and easy for Hasbro versus trying to create something all new, my question is are there really that many people who will buy anything and everything Transformers no matter the "version"? Personally I'm not into scene specific figures of any kind because it's severely limiting and I just don't have the space to dedicate to a "dead Bot shelf".

Add on top of this release is the fact that there are still a lot of people who still want regular Prowl from the Amazon 2pk, so my other question is how likely is that reissue now that they went with this version?

Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm having a bit of a memory haze regarding this feature and what line it was actually in, but I thought it was Transformers back in the day that featured battle damage by having a part/piece that flips/rolls back and forth. Maybe if they couldn't have swap out battle damage parts as it appears the whole from section would be too complicated for a consumer to do it, that they should have done what I'm talking about?

I get that these slight retools are fairly cheap and easy for Hasbro versus trying to create something all new, my question is are there really that many people who will buy anything and everything Transformers no matter the "version"? Personally I'm not into scene specific figures of any kind because it's severely limiting and I just don't have the space to dedicate to a "dead Bot shelf".

Add on top of this release is the fact that there are still a lot of people who still want regular Prowl from the Amazon 2pk, so my other question is how likely is that reissue now that they went with this version?

There are always more toys of the main G1 cast. Does this release make an Earthrise reissue less likely? Possibly. Will this be the last time we get a G1 Prowl for the next five years? For the next three? Almost certainly not. I know it sucks to not get a release marred by bad distribution, but on a long enough timeline--usually a handful of years rather than a decade--there's always going to be another figure.

Hero Alpha wrote:I'm glad this is out there for the people that want it, but I dont need it. But I thought for a second about getting it just to switch my previous 2 pack Prowl's legs for these. Also I so really hope this is a new trend of no clear type plastic and having painted on windows. I would love to have those blast effects though.

Good point about switching the legs…
I hadn’t even thought about that.
I also wouldn’t mind having those blast effects, although I’d use them for other figures.

And, from what I can see in the photos on Pulse, it looks like the clear plastic parts have been replaced with solid plastic…. Obvsly not sure, but that’s how it looks to me.

Bringing up the switching of legs I was wondering how difficult it would be to totally switch out the from panel with the previous version, that way I'd have a normal Ironhide but now with the stripe.
Trouble I have zero experience modding TF's