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Black Hat wrote:At the risk of being a pedant, I assume you meant "Consummate" their relationship, not "consume".

I'm French Canadian so I make mistakes from times to times... Or did I?

Having played around with MB-11 for the better part of the week now, I find that he's not as complex as I thought he was going to be.

Getting everything aligned when going back to Truck mode can be a chore, but overall its not a very complex transformation.

Once you figure out where the arms go, and where the head goes, everything else comes together nicely.

With that said, I do have some questions, never having owned this mold or any of its retools along the way, maybe somebody can answer them.

He holds the swords and hooks like guns in the slots in his hands, but they also have a peg on the side. The only place I can find this fits in, is on top of his forearms, which makes posing very awkward as his hands cannot be positioned in any convincing way.

What's that peg for? The instructions only show him holding them in his hands.


His right gas can / gun part seems to pop off the slider on his back panels quite easily when I move it, anybody else having this issue? Its supposed to slide out, not just detach itself.


The left Air filter / shoulder panel seems to be stuck, it doesn't want to hinge upward as much as the right one, which means it gets in the way of the hood / forearm panels. Not sure how to fix this.


Anybody know where I can get translations for his voice clips? Tried to use Google Translate App on my phone, but it doesn't seem to be able to pick it up or transalate coherently when it does.



Beyond that, I'm loving this figure so much.

One difficulty of Leader Prime that have been removed for his transformation is to deal with the arms. The SPRING LOADED SWORDS. There were standards on the ROTF and HFTD originals. Takara, with the Buster retool emoved them. Those things were always in the way and were always springing forward in transformation.

-Kanrabat- wrote:One difficulty of Leader Prime that have been removed for his transformation is to deal with the arms. The SPRING LOADED SWORDS. There were standards on the ROTF and HFTD originals. Takara, with the Buster retool emoved them. Those things were always in the way and were always springing forward in transformation.

Yeah, I remember all the complaints about the spring loaded swords on the original mold when it was released.

It's a good thing Takara made the swords an external accessory, its just that peg on the side of them that's intriguing.

Overcracker wrote:It's a good thing Takara made the swords an external accessory, its just that peg on the side of them that's intriguing.

Those are for the omitted Shield/Stealth Mode hood piece that they attach to, from Striker Optimus.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Overcracker wrote:It's a good thing Takara made the swords an external accessory, its just that peg on the side of them that's intriguing.

Those are for the omitted Shield/Stealth Mode hood piece that they attach to, from Striker Optimus.

Ah, thanks, that makes sense. Now I know.

I just realized, since Soundwave is at the same scale as the MP cars, he will be PERFECT to go with the upcoming MPM Bumblebee

william-james88 wrote:I just realized, since Soundwave is at the same scale as the MP cars, he will be PERFECT to go with the upcoming MPM Bumblebee

Dunno about that. The HA line is supposed to scale with each others and ROTF HA Bee was so big that he didn't came with a bonus transforming bike. Unless the original HA bee was made too big, the upcoming MP bee might be a tad too small.

The only way to make sure though is when we actually have it in hands. I'll dig out my old HA Bee from storage and make all the comparison shots then.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I just realized, since Soundwave is at the same scale as the MP cars, he will be PERFECT to go with the upcoming MPM Bumblebee

Dunno about that. The HA line is supposed to scale with each others and ROTF HA Bee was so big that he didn't came with a bonus transforming bike. Unless the original HA bee was made too big, the upcoming MP bee might be a tad too small.

The only way to make sure though is when we actually have it in hands. I'll dig out my old HA Bee from storage and make all the comparison shots then.

I found that Soundwave is a little bigger than MP cars.

carytheone wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I just realized, since Soundwave is at the same scale as the MP cars, he will be PERFECT to go with the upcoming MPM Bumblebee

Dunno about that. The HA line is supposed to scale with each others and ROTF HA Bee was so big that he didn't came with a bonus transforming bike. Unless the original HA bee was made too big, the upcoming MP bee might be a tad too small.

The only way to make sure though is when we actually have it in hands. I'll dig out my old HA Bee from storage and make all the comparison shots then.

I found that Soundwave is a little bigger than MP cars.

yeha but only in car mode. he shrinks down to their size when in robot mode. Cary, how do you position those purely aesthetic panels on his arms that have that little blue circle?

And Kanrabat, the HA toys were meant to scale with eachother, except for Soundwave who is much smaller than the rest. The HA toys are Ultra sized while the MP cars are voyager sized. And HA Soundwave is more in line with the voyager scale. he doesnt scale well with HA Bee (i know since i have HA barricade, who is the same height as bee) so he will scale well with MPM Bee.

There is a reason takara is rereleasing that Soundwave later this year, once people get MPM Bee in hand

william-james88 wrote:yeha but only in car mode. he shrinks down to their size when in robot mode. Cary, how do you position those purely aesthetic panels on his arms that have that little blue circle?

Well you did say "MP Cars"

In bot mode is is Voyager height, but he was a shockingly heavy and beefy bot. I am quite pleased with him.

A lot of his parts just kinda float around. Like the shoulder pauldrons, the roof bits on the back of his arms and those panels you mentioned. I just kinda position where they look nice and stay out of the way.

If you click the pic it will take you to a few more pics I took on my first transformation. I missed a few things and have gotten better at it after a few more rounds.

Soundwave makes me want more movie figs or at least more HA figs

Just wondering, is Soundwave the best looking car mode we have ever had in TF toy history?

william-james88 wrote:Just wondering, is Soundwave the best looking car mode we have ever had in TF toy history?

That's an interesting list cause G1 had some nice looking cars with some funky robots.

That Soundwave is sexy as hell and floats between MP and alternators. That line probably takes all the cakes on good looking cars though.

carytheone wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Just wondering, is Soundwave the best looking car mode we have ever had in TF toy history?

That's an interesting list cause G1 had some nice looking cars with some funky robots.

That Soundwave is sexy as hell and floats between MP and alternators. That line probably takes all the cakes on good looking cars though.

This is what I have so far:

Top 5 Nicest Licensed Car Modes Amongst Transformers Toys

5. Binaltech Override/Windcharger

4. MP Wheeljack

3. Binaltec Meister/Jazz

2. G1/MP Sideswipe

1. MB Soundwave


G1 cars are nice, but the stickers kinda get in the way of them looking great. I was thinking of other movie cars but they have so many damn panels that they end up not looking as good as G1 or Binaltech (which doesnt have that many panels).

Now that's the licensed car modes...what about unlicensed ones?

william-james88 wrote:Just wondering, is Soundwave the best looking car mode we have ever had in TF toy history?

He is pretty sweet. Best though? That's tough, and there's some good contenders, notably:

RID Side Burn: Really any of the car brothers could fit here but A: I own this guy so I'm more qualified to talk about him, and B: He's the best looking. Seriously, he did an MP Tracks before MP was a thing. That metallic blue, man... Not to mention the car mode is SO good that Hasbro had to alter it for their release to avoid a lawsuit from Dodge. Sure he has the kinda comical looking engine block (with beautiful but short-lived chrome) but he not only has chromed rims, but rubber tires too!

Most MPs: Almost all the cars are great, at least in car mode (and most in robot mode too). I only own one (G2 Sideswipe) but he is gorgeous with his gloss-black full-body paintjob. G1 Sideswipe is great too, in Lamborghini-approved red paint no less. The mold's back end does have that little bit of errant kibble but it's only noticable because of how perfect the rest of the toy is.

The Datsun quintet (Prowl, Smokescreen and all 3 versions of Bluestreak) all look lovely. It helps the Datsun Fairlady Z is a beautiful car, and the mold renders it perfectly. Just pick your flavour; Sexy police deco for Prowl, gloriously decaled-up racing colours for Smokescreen, or three different metallic schemes for Bluestreak. Prowl is probably my favourite, but then I'm a sucker for a 'bot in uniform.

Wheeljack, whilst lacking in a fully-painted finish, does have a wonderful car deco with paint details and decals everywhere. And what a car mode it is! The Lancia Stratos is a thing of beauty, and at least from what I've seen of it, the toy is a very accurate rendition (and at the very least a good looking one).

Bumblebee, whilst not a sexy supercar like Sideswipe or a classy auto like Prowl, is still a very nice looking Beetle. Which IMO is always a good thing. Plus he scales perfectly in car mode with CHUG figures.

Tracks, whilst weak in robot mode, has a very, very nice car mode. It's a Stingray, which is one of my favourite cars anyway, and he's done in metallic blue paint. Of course, if Tracks is too faaaaaaaaaaaabulous for you there's always Loud Pedal in gloss black paint. Road Rage loses a few points for being bare plastic, but regains them for being a literal little red Corvette (RIP Prince).

Basically any Alternator/Binaltech/Alternity figure: Pick a figure. Any figure. Even the ones with weak robot modes have superb car modes. And with interiors to boot!

...OK, that's enough gushing about little plastic cars. You get the idea anyway.

Black Hat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Just wondering, is Soundwave the best looking car mode we have ever had in TF toy history?

He is pretty sweet. Best though? That's tough, and there's some good contenders, notably:

RID Side Burn: Really any of the car brothers could fit here but A: I own this guy so I'm more qualified to talk about him, and B: He's the best looking. Seriously, he did an MP Tracks before MP was a thing. That metallic blue, man... Not to mention the car mode is SO good that Hasbro had to alter it for their release to avoid a lawsuit from Dodge. Sure he has the kinda comical looking engine block (with beautiful but short-lived chrome) but he not only has chromed rims, but rubber tires too!

R.I.D Sideburn is actually a fully licensed and realized Dodge Viper. No modifications or hiding that fact at all. Chrysler made Hasbro license it when bringing the Car Robots figures from Japan. Prowl and X-Brawn went unlicensed however.

Note the accurately painted Viper emblem:



This repaint and all subsequent uses of the mold have the required emblem.

With that said, yes, he has a very very nice vehicle mode. I own the Super Side Burn repaint version pictured above, and chrome is still very much intact.

Still, the Mercedes Benz SLR AMG is still one of the cooler car modes. Even Movie Drift, which had been a Bugatti Veyron, is now a Mercedes AMG-GTR for Last Knight. Alt mode envy?


With that said, Alternators Dead End also makes the Viper alt mode look very cool.

Well, Side Burn was my first ever Transformer acquired at age 4 (which makes him 16 YEARS OLD). I'm surprised he's in as good shape as he is.

I could do a tie for Alternators Dead End and RID Sideburn with them being the same car.

MP Tracks doesnt have that great a car mode due to that annoying kibble underneath that detracts from it. He also lacks the inner alt mode detail that many on this list have.

Black Hat wrote:Well, Side Burn was my first ever Transformer acquired at age 4 (which makes him 16 YEARS OLD). I'm surprised he's in as good shape as he is.

Mine's about that age too. bought him when R.I.D was out. One of my first adult TF purchases along with Prime and Magnus.

RotF Deluxe Dead End has a bad robot mode but his altmode is sexy as hell.
Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Dead End Gallery

SureShot18 wrote:RotF Deluxe Dead End has a bad robot mode but his altmode is sexy as hell.
Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Dead End Gallery

You know which movie toys I think have great looking car modes? The Twins. I think they just look so good and so on point with the actual cars:


Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Mudflap Gallery

Another pic, here is MB Soundwave nxt to HA Barricade. As can be seen, they are 2 different scales and dont scale well with eachother. Which is great news for MPM BB and Soundwave

Alternators Mirage is easily one of my favorite car modes. No real love for the car model, but I feel like this one really went above and beyond in hiding any indication that it turns into a robot.


They did an incredible job of making use of all the existing panels and only adding a few very well hidden ones. Just a fantastic looking car in that nice deep blue.

On topic: MB-11 is beautiful. So glad I finally got this mold and held out for the best looking version. I may not need the MP version now.

Emerje

Soundwave makes a very nice looking car but doesn't hold a candle to any of the MP cars or many Alternators. Too many big, visible break point lines where parts move around to get on that top tier, imo.

ScottyP wrote:Soundwave makes a very nice looking car but doesn't hold a candle to any of the MP cars or many Alternators. Too many big, visible break point lines where parts move around to get on that top tier, imo.

Who are your personal favourites that you see in the top tier?