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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:07 pm
by Agamemnon
Sabrblade wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio, no siree bob!

The only way it could get more generic is by saying: "Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. He is evil. The decipticons are evil. Thus the autobots are good.
"Autobots rage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons."

I thought it was that the Autobots waged their battle.... Huh.....
I've heard people say it both ways, but definitely not in a past tense.

"Rage" just makes more sense when battle is concerned, since it's not like the Autobots are always gambling their fights.

Oh, right. I used it in the past tense in my sentence, not as a direct quote, sorry. *sheepish grin*

And I was thinking how countries wage war on each other. TFwiki says "wage." *shrug*

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:08 pm
by SW's SilverHammer
Sabrblade wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio, no siree bob!

The only way it could get more generic is by saying: "Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. He is evil. The decipticons are evil. Thus the autobots are good.
"Autobots rage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons."

I thought it was that the Autobots waged their battle.... Huh.....
I've heard people say it both ways, but definitely not in a past tense.

"Rage" just makes more sense when battle is concerned, since it's not like the Autobots are always gambling their fights.


Dosen't that make it sound like the autobots are the assholes in this? Aren't the Decepticons the aggressors in all of this. So wouldn't the Decepticons be raging war, while the autobots wage the war, considering they're continuing and reciprocating. After all the definition of wage in this context is to carry on.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:10 pm
by Sabrblade
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:11 pm
by Cobotron
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:14 pm
by SW's SilverHammer
Sabrblade wrote:Image


wage
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verb
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carry on (a war or campaign).
synonyms: engage in, carry on, conduct, execute, pursue, prosecute, proceed with

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:42 am
by JustPlainME
So, all the combiners are (will be) bought for me. My only real gripe is that Menasor doesn't really have an abdomen. It looks like his legs are sticking out of his chest. I'll display my Stunticons in individual robot modes. I'm getting two of the Arielbot sets (one Hasbro and the other Takara) - one for the individual Arielbots and one for Superion.

Passing on the Devastator. For such a large combiner, I think it could have been done better. Sure they all look decent, but I think the arms of the individual Constructicons put me off a bit...and the gimpy Mixmaster alt modes. I have Green Giant too, so he shall suffice.

Love the Defensor. Probably will be buying two sets of this as well.

Megatron(s), Cyclonus, Thundercracker, I think will have to be passes. I have the Apollyon 3rd party on pre-order, and I have the Masterpiece TC. Just not interested in the Cyclonus.

Really, I'm making a huge exception for the Combiner Wars stuff since I sold off all my CHUGs last year, vowing to only buy Masterpieces and the good 3rd Party stuff.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:36 am
by Emerje
The Constructicons vary quite a bit in quality, but for the most part I think they're good. Bonecrusher and Scavenger are the best since being arms doesn't effect their bot and alt modes. Longhaul and Scrapper are the worst thanks to their over simplification. If Scrapper just had elbows instead of the stupid swivel he'd be one of the better figures. Hook and Mixmaster at least look good, but the elbows are awful. Vehicle modes are all great and Devastator is nearly perfect. Really want to know if the chest wings still go with Scrapper and if we see the return of the drills.

I guess I'm the only one that likes Cyclonus? The Deluxe figure is OK, but was never a huge fan of his needle nose alt mode. I love the Voyager's alt mode, it's almost perfect to the original figure. The bot mode is off, but I was never a big fan of Cyclonus' ears anyway. I'll probably give him Nightstick and do something else with the deluxe.

Emerje

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:39 am
by fenrir72
Emerje wrote:The Constructicons vary quite a bit in quality, but for the most part I think they're good. Bonecrusher and Scavenger are the best since being arms doesn't effect their bot and alt modes. Longhaul and Scrapper are the worst thanks to their over simplification. If Scrapper just had elbows instead of the stupid swivel he'd be one of the better figures. Hook and Mixmaster at least look good, but the elbows are awful. Vehicle modes are all great and Devastator is nearly perfect. Really want to know if the chest wings still go with Scrapper and if we see the return of the drills.

I guess I'm the only one that likes Cyclonus? The Deluxe figure is OK, but was never a huge fan of his needle nose alt mode. I love the Voyager's alt mode, it's almost perfect to the original figure. The bot mode is off, but I was never a big fan of Cyclonus' ears anyway. I'll probably give him Nightstick and do something else with the deluxe.

Emerje


I think we all have to hold off fully prejudging Dev. At least until his release. Same thing happened to MP-BB. He actually came out very good despite his initial pictures.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:13 am
by Ironhidensh
So, granted I may have missed it somewhere in the 150 damn pages of this thread, but am I going to have to import from Takara to get a complete superion? All due respect to Va'al, but a helicopter does NOT belong amongst the Airialbots.

Planes and whirlybirds are like the bloods and crips, they just shouldn't mix.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:24 am
by -Kanrabat-
JustPlainME wrote:
Passing on the Devastator. For such a large combiner, I think it could have been done better. Sure they all look decent, but I think the arms of the individual Constructicons put me off a bit...and the gimpy Mixmaster alt modes. I have Green Giant too, so he shall suffice.



Obviously, CW Devastator is not meant for Hercs/Giant owners. It is for the collector who don't want to spend 300-500$ for a Constructicon combiner or the kid who just want to go pew pew pew. If one already own the ultimate (and very expensive) 3rd party Devastator, of course you would want to pass on the official release.

As for me, I'll go the official route. around 200$CAN shipped is the most money I wanna spend on a Devastator.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:32 am
by King Kuuga
Ironhidensh wrote:So, granted I may have missed it somewhere in the 150 damn pages of this thread, but am I going to have to import from Takara to get a complete superion? All due respect to Va'al, but a helicopter does NOT belong amongst the Airialbots.

Planes and whirlybirds are like the bloods and crips, they just shouldn't mix.

I would argue that you can make a complete Superion using Silverbolt and any four random CW deluxes.
However, to answer the question you really meant, yes. the fourth deluxe plane is currently only going to be available from Takara if you really don't want a white and red Vortex on your Superion. Although I reject the idea that a helicopter (notably an aerial vehicle) does not belong on a team called the Aerialbots. It's a way to diversify the toy shelves, so instead of parents seeing 4 deluxe planes they see 3 and a helicopter and are more likely to buy the last member.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:39 am
by Va'al
Ironhidensh wrote:So, granted I may have missed it somewhere in the 150 damn pages of this thread, but am I going to have to import from Takara to get a complete superion? All due respect to Va'al, but a helicopter does NOT belong amongst the Airialbots.

Planes and whirlybirds are like the bloods and crips, they just shouldn't mix.


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I get it, to be fair. I like the comics before the toys, and have little attachment at all to G1, so Alpha Bravo does not jar at all with my idea of Superion.

The Takara version, however, has a repaint of one of the other jets as the fourth jet. If you're fine with having two of the same mold as limbs, that's what you want. And currently, the cheapest option it seems, too!

The Takara UW thread is here, for more: takara-transformers-unite-warriors-discussion-thread-t102999.php

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:26 am
by ZeroWolf
I second Va'al here, and I also plan to scramble these up once I've got them all :) I'm hoping that all this Exposure will get alpha Bravo mote face time in the comics

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:15 am
by fenrir72
Ironhidensh wrote:So, granted I may have missed it somewhere in the 150 damn pages of this thread, but am I going to have to import from Takara to get a complete superion? All due respect to Va'al, but a helicopter does NOT belong amongst the Airialbots.

Planes and whirlybirds are like the bloods and crips, they just shouldn't mix.


Yup. The Tomy version comes as a set.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:54 am
by Counterpunch
I thought we had confirmation that Slingshot was coming out in the US? Did I misremember that? (might have, was in the hospital at the time news broke)

Anyway...

That Armada Megatron is very disappointing and this is coming from Armada Megatron's A#1 fan. It really does lack a lot of the character that the Micron Legend version had. Really a shame, but nice to see the figure get a homage.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:57 am
by RhA
Counterpunch wrote:I thought we had confirmation that Slingshot was coming out in the US? Did I misremember that? (might have, was in the hospital at the time news broke)

Anyway...

That Armada Megatron is very disappointing and this is coming from Armada Megatron's A#1 fan. It really does lack a lot of the character that the Micron Legend version had. Really a shame, but nice to see the figure get a homage.

He needs no homage, all Armada Megs needs are regular knees.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:06 am
by shajaki
Sabrblade wrote:Boy, that sure isn't a vague, nondescriptive bio.
i thought it was odd too. at least mention the minicons!

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:08 am
by Va'al
Counterpunch wrote:I thought we had confirmation that Slingshot was coming out in the US? Did I misremember that? (might have, was in the hospital at the time news broke)


It would still be a double mold, either way!

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:12 am
by Tranzilla
Va'al wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:So, granted I may have missed it somewhere in the 150 damn pages of this thread, but am I going to have to import from Takara to get a complete superion? All due respect to Va'al, but a helicopter does NOT belong amongst the Airialbots.

Planes and whirlybirds are like the bloods and crips, they just shouldn't mix.


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I get it, to be fair. I like the comics before the toys, and have little attachment at all to G1, so Alpha Bravo does not jar at all with my idea of Superion.

The Takara version, however, has a repaint of one of the other jets as the fourth jet. If you're fine with having two of the same mold as limbs, that's what you want. And currently, the cheapest option it seems, too!

The Takara UW thread is here, for more: takara-transformers-unite-warriors-discussion-thread-t102999.php


Don't forget that ToysRUs has Slingshot listed in their system as well as Wildrider so technically there WILL be 4 jet limbs. It will just be a matter of minor color differences between TakTomy and Hasbro.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:21 am
by Tranzilla
shajaki wrote:Thanks to blogger Black Plastic Life, we now have in hand picture of Combiner Wars Leader Class Megatron! This figure is a retool of the Leader Megatron also in recent news who is more Generation 1 inspired. But if you're more interested in his Armada incarnation at the moment, take a look at his Bio!

For millions of years, Megatron has led fanatical legions of evil Decepticons on their war for conquest. A living weapon with dozens of modifications made in the name of increased power and destructive capabilities, his only weakness is his single-minded desire for the enslavement of the universe.


Keep scrolling to see the pics, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your Transformers News!

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Botcon Megazarak here we come. Although, I'd still prefer it from Energon Scorponok with that Headmaster gimmick.

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:32 am
by shajaki
alright, so its easy to coming from a mile away and it mustv been discussed already, but perhaps this new comic cover is the first indication that we're getting a leader starscream?

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:37 am
by Sabrblade
Starscream changes bodies AGAIN?!!

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:58 am
by fenrir72
Sabrblade wrote:Starscream changes bodies AGAIN?!!


A recolor of TC from the Jetfire mold. Maybe that was already planned from the begining? TC a test if it sells?

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:13 am
by Cobotron
I really don't mind the Jetfire mold for the seekers, the only thing it's lacking are the iconic air intake shoulder stack thingies. Design wise, those really define them as seekers.

Why is Skywarp always the last to get any love? :-(

Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:15 am
by gothsaurus
This is pretty easy to figure out. They just released Jetfire in that same body style... Starscream is too similar to that color scheme, being light gray and red... so they kick off the new series of seekers with a vastly different color seeker: Thundercracker.

I think the rest of the trio is inevitable.