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...WOAH.

You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.

Mindmaster wrote:Somebody snuck in and got this.

Well, okay, Delta, there you go. (In my defense, that's not how the inner forearms are shaped in the sketch.)

Looks like since they were redesigning the hands to swivel, they took the opportunity to make the roof panels a each separate piece and face the open side of the forearms into them. Higher parts count, but less paint.

>Cab looks better
>Arms no longer hollow
>Powermaster
>ANKLE TILTS

TAKARA WINS AGAIN

Mindmaster wrote:Somebody snuck in and got this.

Shiiiiiiiiiiirts. I feel like I should wait for this guy instead of PMOP..

The 2016 Tokyo Toy Show is in full force this weekend and we have some great Transformers Legends display images to show you from the TakaraTomy booth! The notables in this display are: LG-31 Fortress Maximus, LG-26 Scourge, LG-30 Weirdwolf, LG-25 Blurr, LG-24 Shockwave/Cancer, LG-23 Galvatron, LG-22 Skull(cruncher), LG-21 Hardhead, LG-28 Rewind/Nightbeat, and LG27 Broadcast (Blaster). The images below show them off in multiple modes, poses, and action and are slated to begin releasing next month. See the shots below and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

...aren't a few of those the Hasbro versions?

By now you have seen the sketch by TFYuki and thanks to a little sneaky photography we get an image of the toy from the presentation. This image was posted to Facebook by Fai Wong which show Super Ginrai with the remolding he was rumored to come with. Compare the leaked image below with an official image of Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime which you can also find below to spot the differences.



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Super Ginrai: I need you in my life. I adore masterforce and Ginrai and this is superb. They didn't need to do half of these upgrades but I guess with Ginrai you go all out or go home

Other pics: anyone else notice a distinct lack of fortress/cerebros figures?

Sigma Magnus wrote:...aren't a few of those the Hasbro versions?

It's definitely the Hasbro Fortress Maximus.

ZeroWolf wrote:Other pics: anyone else notice a distinct lack of fortress/cerebros figures?

Remember, the Hasbro Cerebros/Emissary figure uses the US cartoon head design with the mouthplate which does not match the toy at all. TakaraTomy must want to keep their retool a surprise.

I just can't wait to see Takara do a Legends Brave Maximus or a Grand Maximus.

I can't wait to see them do Metrotitan

I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

Sorry to break it to you two but I don't think any of them are happening

Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...

And what department of takaras do you work in?

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...

I think he means for super ginrai, it's possible that they redesigned the cab to allow a new ginrai figure to attach to it like the godmasters of old.

Prowl4 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...

And what department of takaras do you work in?

...are we really doing this again? Look at the packaging pictures a few pages back. Very clearly some Headmasters. Hell, look at the display, there are little Headmasters everywhere!

ZeroWolf wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...

I think he means for super ginrai, it's possible that they redesigned the cab to allow a new ginrai figure to attach to it like the godmasters of old.

Prowl4, if that's the case, please be more specific...

ZeroWolf wrote:Sorry to break it to you two but I don't think any of them are happening

I know sarcasm when I read it.

I think since they are going as far as they are with this retool, I'd say it's certainly a possibility they're making Ginrai a Powermaster instead of a Headmaster. That said, that's just pure speculation as we have nothing to prove either way; it's just a possibility - but one I feel is likely due to how far they are shown to be going with the retool.

Hell, this can be backed up by the fact that so far, we have not been shown any Takara takes on TR figures that were target/powermasters turned into headmasters.
"But wait, most beautiful supreme goddess Kurona!" I hear you cry, if greatly paraphrased and peppered with compliments in my head. "They've shown Scourge and Blurr who are still headmasters and not targetmasters!"
This is true. However... Blurr, Hot Rod, Kup, Cyclonus and Scourge were only rereleased and retooled as Targetmasters in 1987 by Hasbro. In Japan, they were not. So from the perspective of Takara, this is not changing Targetmasters into Headmasters - just changing characters with no notable gimmicks originally into Headmasters, like Galvatron and Astrotrain.

Therefore, the possibility remains open that Triggerhappy and all the rest could be given their Targetmaster status and such back with the Headmaster gimmick omitted. At the very least, it remains very possible for Ginrai - especially given the extent of his retool and given we had comments on the smaller Ginrai figure apparently being altered.


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Prowl4 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...

And what department of takaras do you work in?

Dear Primus, you are not seriously starting this again

There are clearly headmasters on the figures you want 'remolded', the figures show off the headmaster gimmick on the display, and Yuki's facebook page, among other places; time to cut the trolling, and accept things the way they are

Kurona wrote:I think since they are going as far as they are with this retool, I'd say it's certainly a possibility they're making Ginrai a Powermaster instead of a Headmaster. That said, that's just pure speculation as we have nothing to prove either way; it's just a possibility - but one I feel is likely due to how far they are shown to be going with the retool.

Hell, this can be backed up by the fact that so far, we have not been shown any Takara takes on TR figures that were target/powermasters turned into headmasters.
"But wait, most beautiful supreme goddess Kurona!" I hear you cry, if greatly paraphrased and peppered with compliments in my head. "They've shown Scourge and Blurr who are still headmasters and not targetmasters!"
This is true. However... Blurr, Hot Rod, Kup, Cyclonus and Scourge were only rereleased and retooled as Targetmasters in 1987 by Hasbro. In Japan, they were not. So from the perspective of Takara, this is not changing Targetmasters into Headmasters - just changing characters with no notable gimmicks originally into Headmasters, like Galvatron and Astrotrain.

Therefore, the possibility remains open that Triggerhappy and all the rest could be given their Targetmaster status and such back with the Headmaster gimmick omitted. At the very least, it remains very possible for Ginrai - especially given the extent of his retool and given we had comments on the smaller Ginrai figure apparently being altered.


... Typing something that long on a phone is bloody exhausting send help im dying

Well, they're in luck, they should have several targetmaster molds available to them to use (gen cyclonus, Gen scoop's pair, and mp rodimus - if I'm not mistaken) plus it really shouldn't be too difficult to whip up a new mold

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I think since they are going as far as they are with this retool, I'd say it's certainly a possibility they're making Ginrai a Powermaster instead of a Headmaster. That said, that's just pure speculation as we have nothing to prove either way; it's just a possibility - but one I feel is likely due to how far they are shown to be going with the retool.

Hell, this can be backed up by the fact that so far, we have not been shown any Takara takes on TR figures that were target/powermasters turned into headmasters.
"But wait, most beautiful supreme goddess Kurona!" I hear you cry, if greatly paraphrased and peppered with compliments in my head. "They've shown Scourge and Blurr who are still headmasters and not targetmasters!"
This is true. However... Blurr, Hot Rod, Kup, Cyclonus and Scourge were only rereleased and retooled as Targetmasters in 1987 by Hasbro. In Japan, they were not. So from the perspective of Takara, this is not changing Targetmasters into Headmasters - just changing characters with no notable gimmicks originally into Headmasters, like Galvatron and Astrotrain.

Therefore, the possibility remains open that Triggerhappy and all the rest could be given their Targetmaster status and such back with the Headmaster gimmick omitted. At the very least, it remains very possible for Ginrai - especially given the extent of his retool and given we had comments on the smaller Ginrai figure apparently being altered.


... Typing something that long on a phone is bloody exhausting send help im dying

Well, they're in luck, they should have several targetmaster molds available to them to use (gen cyclonus, Gen scoop's pair, and mp rodimus - if I'm not mistaken) plus it really shouldn't be too difficult to whip up a new mold

Plus, while including a new mold might be too much for Hasbro due to them needing to keep to an exact price range (they are limited to making only as much for a deluxe as can be justified for $17 or whatever for instance) - Japan's market is a lot more free with no such standard price points, hence if making a new figure for the toy means increasing the price a little, that's fine. That's how they wete able to get away with arms micron Breakdown and how they're able to package titan master vehicles with hardhead, weirdwolf etc just fine.