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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:23 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
R_Puffs wrote:Scorponok looks good except for all of that red in his beast mode. Its just so unsightly and ruins any of the real-life accuracy that they were obviously going for with his scorpion mode, makes him look like a rescue bots toy imo



Unfortunately, in spite of the more life-like Beast Mode head, the character accurate colour scheme was always going to make any notion of realism redundant.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:24 pm
by Cyberpath
Teletraan 1 as Mainframe is very cool.

Hasbro's photography has come a long way. Galvatron looks like he just emerged from the plasma pools of Thrull.

Whoever is behind this line is clearly a fan.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:33 pm
by ZeroWolf
To be fair, this is the same background as they used when Kingdom was revealed and is supposed to be prehistoric earth, homaging Beast Wars and celebrating it.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:43 pm
by First-Aid
Oh my aching wallet...need transfusion of money...please stop...

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:43 pm
by Changewinds
o.supreme wrote:The Ark still looks great. but I guess the inclusion of the Micro Figure can put to rest the idea that the Core Class smaller representations of Classic Characters were for The Ark. I know that a lot of people enjoy them despite their small size, but they just seem pointless to me now.

As for the holloness. I'm guess the fact that it is only 19 inches, and uses less plastic overall than more recent Titan's is the reason for the slight price reduction. ($149.99)

Also, Teletran-1 Looks almost like it could be a weaponizer, but not sure...


Now I really wonder what the core class versions scale with. Apparently Unicron and the Ark both include micro figures and, if anything, the regular size characters are slightly too small. Will there be some future play factor?

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:46 pm
by Bounti76
I've only seen the Beast Wars series once, so I don't remember much about Scorponok's scorpion mode, but did his claws always look like that? They almost look like Venus fly traps rather than scorpion claws.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by Nemesis Primal
Scorponok's alt mode actually looks really good with the realistic alt mode head and I like that he comes with the missiles and the Cyberbee, but Scorponok is the least interesting BW Predacon character-wise and his proportions are a bit off to me. If they do a Sandstorm or Double Punch repaint, I'd probably jump on it, but I think I'll pass this version.

Galvatron still looks good (and he looked better with the shoulders reversed), but I'm not attached enough to G1 Galvatron to spend Leader class money on him. If they repaint/retool him into Energon Megatron like we've mentioned/speculated before, I'll be all over it.

I've not bought any Titans and still have no intention of doing so, but that Ark is VERY tempting. The fact that he comes with Mainframe and the alt mode scanner drone is great, and he REALLY reminds me of Tidal Wave, which is a strong selling point for a UT kid like me. If they do another version of Mainframe without the Ark in his original colors like was suggested on the Selects thread, I'd grab that.

Seibertron wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:...isn't Scorponok a Deluxe, not a Voyager?


Yes, you are correct. That was my mistake. I read it at $29.99 for the MSRP, and because Scorponok had previously been a larger Mega class, my brain just went with that made complete sense for Scorponok. I updated the news article accordingly. Thanks Nemesis Primal!
No problem Boss Bot ;)^

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by Razorbeast88
I'm curious about the unicron galvatron listing
I wonder if it's leader galvatron with a leader sized unicron figure or a reference to the idea from the Headmasters cartoon that some of y'all had mentioned. But without it just being a beer belly galvatron lol I'd imagine he'd be CC galvatron with a planet alternate mode and some unicron design elements

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
Bounti76 wrote:I've only seen the Beast Wars series once, so I don't remember much about Scorponok's scorpion mode, but did his claws always look like that? They almost look like Venus fly traps rather than scorpion claws.


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I think they are basing the design on a combination of the original toy and cartoon.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by Keelan
Scorponok's claws out here looking like they want Seymour to feed them.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:54 pm
by WiseMan
I wanted the ark for the spaceship mode. Only. It doesn't even really have a robot mode that anyone identifies with. So considering they only had one mode to get right, how could they leave gaping holes in the sides?! They seriously couldn't engineer a panel that flips down to cover it?!

They only needed one mode and failed spectacularly. I honestly can't think of a bigger design failure in Transformers history.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:01 pm
by Razorbeast88
Keelan wrote:Scorponok's claws out here looking like they want Seymour to feed them.


:lol:

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:02 pm
by ZeroWolf
WiseMan wrote:I wanted the ark for the spaceship mode. Only. It doesn't even really have a robot mode that anyone identifies with. So considering they only had one mode to get right, how could they leave gaping holes in the sides?! They seriously couldn't engineer a panel that flips down to cover it?!

They only needed one mode and failed spectacularly. I honestly can't think of a bigger design failure in Transformers history.

You're making Prime Airachnid sad. It could also be argued that Earthrise Arcee was a failure in design

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:06 pm
by blackeyedprime
The arks designer probably wanted people to buy his upgrade set on the side as per the norm. It should be easy enough to 3d print some coverings.

Scorponoks chest is too square and his crotch looks off (aomething a fair few WFC figures have against them) but I think that it might be the size class that goes against him for me as I'll mainly be going for MP beast wars figures. Still nice to see we are getting nearly the full Beast wars crew so Inferno can't be far behind :)

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:12 pm
by ZeroWolf
blackeyedprime wrote:The arks designer probably wanted people to buy his upgrade set on the side as per the norm. It should be easy enough to 3d print some coverings.

Scorponoks chest is too square and his crotch looks off (aomething a fair few WFC figures have against them) but I think that it might be the size class that goes against him for me as I'll mainly be going for MP beast wars figures. Still nice to see we are getting nearly the full Beast wars crew so Inferno can't be far behind :)

Inferno won't be happening in a line with another inferno in it ;) next year is a better bet

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:14 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
Or they will use the "Scavenger" name again. As we discussed elsewhere, I think? :-?

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:14 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Scorponok looks really good, I like it.

Galvatron, I'll wait to see repaints of. But I'm just not feeling $50 for him.

The Ark / Iaconus (I'm calling him that, frag it) looks pretty dang nice. I like the aesthetic they went with for him, looks great! and I love that Mainframe. I hope we get a proper colored Mainframe repaint of him in selects, the Lost Light shelf deserves it!

On a different note, I love using Ractonite as a huge bone hammer

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:15 pm
by R_Puffs
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
R_Puffs wrote:Scorponok looks good except for all of that red in his beast mode. Its just so unsightly and ruins any of the real-life accuracy that they were obviously going for with his scorpion mode, makes him look like a rescue bots toy imo



Unfortunately, in spite of the more life-like Beast Mode head, the character accurate colour scheme was always going to make any notion of realism redundant.

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Idk, HasTak made that change with Blackarachnia, opting for the more anatomically accurate black legs for the black widow mode over the show-accurate gold legs. I don't think it would have been too much to ask for some grey legs for the sake of Scorp's beast mode.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:21 pm
by cruizerdave
That Galvatron ... looks like another "we just almost got it right" attempt. The head is out of proportion, and the shoulders sit too far down, while his torso is kind of a weird shape.

The Ark, eh. I could be alright, it's just not something worth spending $150 on. Although the Teletran as Mainframe idea would be worth doing as its own deluxe figure!

Scorponok looks like a great update, complete with cyberbee and everything.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:21 pm
by ZeroWolf
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Scorponok looks really good, I like it.

Galvatron, I'll wait to see repaints of. But I'm just not feeling $50 for him.

The Ark / Iaconus (I'm calling him that, frag it) looks pretty dang nice. I like the aesthetic they went with for him, looks great! and I love that Mainframe. I hope we get a proper colored Mainframe repaint of him in selects, the Lost Light shelf deserves it!

On a different note, I love using Ractonite as a huge bone hammer

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It's hammer time 8-)

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:23 pm
by cruizerdave
ZeroWolf wrote:
WiseMan wrote:It could also be argued that Earthrise Arcee was a failure in design

Well, it sure couldn't be argued that it was a success.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:27 pm
by Razorbeast88
Yeah I wouldn't call it the biggest design failure in transformers history but to each their own haha can't argue with a wiseman amirite

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:37 pm
by Gauntlet101010
I mean, it could be fixed with two panels. But it doesn't ruin the alt mode for me.

The biggest design failure in TF history ... TR Fort Max in my book. His legs go from inroads in Metroplex to literally nothing in Fort Max. I was hoping a 3rd party could do something with them, but it was not to be.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:53 pm
by WiseMan
Gauntlet101010 wrote:The biggest design failure in TF history ... TR Fort Max in my book. His legs go from inroads in Metroplex to literally nothing in Fort Max. I was hoping a 3rd party could do something with them, but it was not to be.

I'm looking at TR Fort Max right now, and I agree that only the robot mode is any good.

My problem with the Ark is that though there are many different variations of it, I've never seen one that doesn't have, you know, sides.

My dinky little Titanium Ark that doesn't look like any other Ark is more Ark-like than the Kingdom Ark.

Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:03 pm
by Autobot N
WiseMan wrote:My dinky little Titanium Ark that doesn't look like any other Ark is more Ark-like than the Kingdom Ark.
Well the Titanium Ark doesn't have to transform into an almost 2-foot tall robot