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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:07 am
by Powermaster Swag
Sabrblade wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:Someone should get this and see how he scales with CW Constructicons! :-?


Probably a lot like this. ;)

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I just realized that Hauler in that pic is drawn like Grapple's altmode's cartoon model but with Hauler's cartoon cab (and obviously colored in his toy deco), so if Takara were to ever do a MP Roadhauler, this could give us an idea of how they'd do it (retooled cartoon-accurate cab w/ green toy deco).


Oh! Is that Hauler? I thought there were two Hooks in that picture! What is that picture from?
Unite Warriors Devastor's pack-in chapter of Unite Warriors Offshot.


Ok. That makes sense, are all the Japanese Transformers coming with comics these days?

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:09 am
by Sabrblade
Powermaster Swag wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:Someone should get this and see how he scales with CW Constructicons! :-?


Probably a lot like this. ;)

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I just realized that Hauler in that pic is drawn like Grapple's altmode's cartoon model but with Hauler's cartoon cab (and obviously colored in his toy deco), so if Takara were to ever do a MP Roadhauler, this could give us an idea of how they'd do it (retooled cartoon-accurate cab w/ green toy deco).


Oh! Is that Hauler? I thought there were two Hooks in that picture! What is that picture from?
Unite Warriors Devastor's pack-in chapter of Unite Warriors Offshot.


Ok. That makes sense, are all the Japanese Transformers coming with comics these days?
Unite Warriors and Legends are, yeah.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:23 am
by Seibertron
Sabrblade wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:Ok. That makes sense, are all the Japanese Transformers coming with comics these days?
Unite Warriors and Legends are, yeah.


Just for clarification, it's not a comic with the Unite Warriors sets. The page you see is literally all you get, which is on the back cover of the instructions booklet that comes with the Unite Warrior sets. Less a comic and more a fantasy situation depicting the toys from the set along with other relevant characters (human or Transformers) or plot devices from the G1 cartoon series. The Legends figures come with a 2 page comic that are also part of their instructions.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:01 pm
by ScottyP
Seibertron wrote: The Legends figures come with a 2 page comic that are also part of their instructions.
Which themselves are a spin off of a webcomic series iirc.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:20 pm
by Sabrblade
ScottyP wrote:
Seibertron wrote: The Legends figures come with a 2 page comic that are also part of their instructions.
Which themselves are a spin off of a webcomic series iirc.
In a way, yes. The webcomic and pack-in comic are intertwined with one another, with the webcomic containing prologues and epilogues for the events of each pack-in comic, as well as additional plots spread out in between each pack-in comic. Essentially, the webcomic tells the main ongoing story, but also directs itself to set up placements for each pack-in comic to slot in between certain chapters of the webcomic, to make a complete narrative whole across both the online and physical chapters.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:12 am
by Cyberpath
Pre-orders are up on HLJ -- https://hlj.com/product/tkt86179

Release date: Feb 25, 2017.


And Amazon-Japan has ever larger photos, click to enlarge:

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:33 am
by Cyberpath
A few more differences between MP Grapple and Inferno (other than the obvious crane/ladder, pelvis, head, hoses, deco, and the extra raised details) --

Their wheels are positioned differently in their torso as per their model sheets.

Grapple has extra parts and details on the back of his legs because the designer of his model cel had worked from a photo and mistook the crane for part of the legs.

The disks on their arms are in different places.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:57 am
by xMXUx
Cyberpath wrote:A few more differences between MP Grapple and Inferno (other than the obvious crane/ladder, pelvis, head, hoses, deco, and the extra raised details) --

Their wheels are positioned differently in their torso as per their model sheets.

Grapple has extra parts and details on the back of his legs because the designer of his model cel had worked from a photo and mistook the crane for part of the legs.

The disks on their arms are in different places.

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Wow, those are some nice little differences that they didn't necessarily needed to include, but I'm really glad they did :D

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:17 am
by nycPrime
Out of curiosity, where are folks in the US preordering him from?

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:43 am
by Big Grim
I think this confirms I'm getting him over Wrestle. He's freakin' gorgeous. The minor additions of detail to his legs makes a ridiculous amount of a difference to me.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:48 pm
by galvatron00
Why do I feel the need to get this figure?! I should probably just wait for Hauler, but I reaaaaaaaaaaally liked The Master Builders in G1S2..drat.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:19 am
by Cyberpath
Size comparison with MP-10 Optimus Prime & MP-20 Wheeljack:

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The parts that MP-33 Inferno & MP-35 Grapple have in common:

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New Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple With Size Comparison and Part Sharing Breakdown

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:29 am
by william-james88
Fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath has found some cool images for us coming from Loopaza who uplaoded scans of a Japanese hobby magazine. In it we can find a size comparison of Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple
with MP-10 Optimus Prime & MP-20 Wheeljack. He looks to be about the height of Ironhide. We also see shots of all his faces and magical back shots of both him and Inferno.

We also see something really cool. It's as if Takara has been reading our boards and noticing how much we like to disect these toys and how much new tooling there is. So they pulled down the veil and showed us how the burgers are made with a three dimensional mapping of all the parts shared between the two toys. Enjoy!

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:32 am
by Big Grim
The fact the ladder/crane arm actually folds away really is a bit of engineering genius!

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:47 am
by galvatron00
Ugggggggghhhh why do I want this guy so much!! He was so dang likable in "The Master Builders". Curse you TFG1S2!! You aren't supposed to be in my display!! :lol: :lol:

He also looks really fun. Maybe it's the happy face. Like how I have Ratchet displayed with his happy face...dang it.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:14 am
by Big Grim
His happy face IS kinda adorable!

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:18 am
by galvatron00
Big Grim wrote:His happy face IS kinda adorable!
It's TOO adorable Grim. Adorable to the point of irresistible!! Takara is taking my money again :lol:

Re: New Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple With Size Comparison and Part Sharing Breakdown

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:25 am
by Cyberpath
The retooling and the way it's presented in the magazine is impressive. It makes Red Alert Plus a little more disappointing.

Looking forward to transforming these!

Itscramtastic, your display discriminates against S2 characters?? :shock:

Re: New Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple With Size Comparison and Part Sharing Breakdown

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:51 am
by galvatron00
Cyberpath wrote:itscramtastic, your display discriminates against S2 characters?? :shock:
Short answer, yes. I have no real attachment to G1 Season 2, and not many toys from that season either! Two many episodes maybe?! :lol: I really pick and choose what I watch from that season..

THAT SAID!!

One of my fav episodes was The Master Builders, but I'd still never buy Hoist :lol: The only Grapferno figure I've ever had was Solar Storm Grappel (misspelled on purpose like the box!) from the Reveal the Shield line. He made his way to Cobotron when I first started selling off figures. I wouldn't mind this guy as his replacement (but I'd rather have Hauler)!!

Re: New Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple With Size Comparison and Part Sharing Breakdown

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:04 am
by Cyberpath
itscramtastic wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:itscramtastic, your display discriminates against S2 characters?? :shock:
Short answer, yes. I have no real attachment to G1 Season 2, and not many toys from that season either! Two many episodes maybe?! :lol: I really pick and choose what I watch from that season..

THAT SAID!!

One of my fav episodes was The Master Builders, but I'd still never buy Hoist :lol: The only Grapferno figure I've ever had was Solar Storm Grappel (misspelled on purpose like the box!) from the Reveal the Shield line. He made his way to Cobotron when I first started selling off figures. I wouldn't mind this guy as his replacement (but I'd rather have Hauler)!!



Too many episodes?? More like not enough! S2 was the most iconic! :BOWDOWN:

You'd rather have a "made-up" character over someone who appeared on the show? Just when you think you know a guy. [-( :-P

The Master Builders is amazing.


Hey Takara, you were brilliant folding the ladder and crane into their backs, maybe you can come up with a magic solution to my limited shelf space? ;)^ Not that I'm complaining!

Re: New Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple With Size Comparison and Part Sharing Breakdown

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:14 am
by galvatron00
Cyberpath wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:itscramtastic, your display discriminates against S2 characters?? :shock:
Short answer, yes. I have no real attachment to G1 Season 2, and not many toys from that season either! Two many episodes maybe?! :lol: I really pick and choose what I watch from that season..

THAT SAID!!

One of my fav episodes was The Master Builders, but I'd still never buy Hoist :lol: The only Grapferno figure I've ever had was Solar Storm Grappel (misspelled on purpose like the box!) from the Reveal the Shield line. He made his way to Cobotron when I first started selling off figures. I wouldn't mind this guy as his replacement (but I'd rather have Hauler)!!
Too many episodes?? More like not enough! S2 was the most iconic! :BOWDOWN:

You'd rather have a "made-up" character over someone who appeared on the show? Just when you think you know a guy. [-( :-P

The Master Builders is amazing.

Hey Takara, you were brilliant folding the ladder and crane into their backs, maybe you can come up with a magic solution to my limited shelf space? ;)^ Not that I'm complaining!
Too many in only that I can't focus on what ones I want to like :lol:

Hauler was there man!! Cliffjumper didn't yell at him to pull Hound up if he was made up!! Where'd he go after that though?! The same place Ratchet's medical platform went, right into an MP release 32 years later!! :lol:

Can you imagine if Takara release display stuff with collectors in mind?! I'd have no money ever again.

Back to Grapple..if I get one of the two it's him. I may start allocating funds!!

Re: New Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple With Size Comparison and Part Sharing Breakdown

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:15 pm
by Flashwave
itscramtastic wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:itscramtastic, your display discriminates against S2 characters?? :shock:
Short answer, yes. I have no real attachment to G1 Season 2, and not many toys from that season either! Two many episodes maybe?! :lol: I really pick and choose what I watch from that season..

THAT SAID!!

One of my fav episodes was The Master Builders, but I'd still never buy Hoist :lol: The only Grapferno figure I've ever had was Solar Storm Grappel (misspelled on purpose like the box!) from the Reveal the Shield line. He made his way to Cobotron when I first started selling off figures. I wouldn't mind this guy as his replacement (but I'd rather have Hauler)!!
Too many episodes?? More like not enough! S2 was the most iconic! :BOWDOWN:

You'd rather have a "made-up" character over someone who appeared on the show? Just when you think you know a guy. [-( :-P

The Master Builders is amazing.

Hey Takara, you were brilliant folding the ladder and crane into their backs, maybe you can come up with a magic solution to my limited shelf space? ;)^ Not that I'm complaining!
Too many in only that I can't focus on what ones I want to like :lol:

Hauler was there man!! Cliffjumper didn't yell at him to pull Hound up if he was made up!! Where'd he go after that though?! The same place Ratchet's medical platform went, right into an MP release 32 years later!! :lol:

Can you imagine if Takara release display stuff with collectors in mind?! I'd have no money ever again.

Back to Grapple..if I get one of the two it's him. I may start allocating funds!!

*Starts taking wagers on Hauler being the Toy Show exclusive next year*

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:44 pm
by Big Grim
itscramtastic wrote:
Big Grim wrote:His happy face IS kinda adorable!
It's TOO adorable Grim. Adorable to the point of irresistible!! Takara is taking my money again :lol:

He's so happy! His face made me think of Nick, Invader ZIM's experiment! Look him up in the episode ZIM eats waffles.

Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:20 am
by Logan.
Very nice scale :D

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-35 Grapple Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:42 am
by Kurona
Logan. wrote:Very nice scale :D

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It also shows us that Grapple's head comes up to Convoy's chest-windows, and combined with his... thing his head is in, almost the same size. Maybe someone could do a size comparison pic of MP-10 and the UW Constructicons so we could get a decent idea of how Grapple will scale with them?