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Sabrblade wrote:The Golden Disk cards show one of three Destinies for the characters. That's just one of Optimus's three Destinies.

Alternate universe, alternate destiny, it's all the same thing.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:This of course makes it more confusing as to why he's in Kingdom and not SS86. He's got that level of detailed transformation and movie accurate robot mode. Not enough slots in SS to go around?

Kingdom would have had more G1 toys in it if not for Beast Wars sharing the same anniversary as TFTM. Kingdom also has Galvatron, Ultra Magnus, and Rodimus Prime in it too, as well as non-TFTM G1 guys like Warpath, Huffer, Pipes, Tracks, Slammer, Inferno, and rereleases of Arcee and Wheeljack.

Which is my point. Why are certain figures that are clearly meant for the TFtM 86 anniversary in Kingdom?

I can understand G1 updates that were not in the movie to be in the Kingdom line up but movie guys with clearly superior transformations and robot modes? I understand Magnus as a retool and Warpath being in Kingdom, but Cyclonus? Even when his pal Scourge made it into SS-86?

Which makes it the more puzzling how these guys are getting divided. I just don't understand why he's here and Scourge is in SS-86, other than class slots already being taken up in SS, and having to shuffle other figures around, which means the SS-86 slots are limited?

Maybe just a single wave? Already have 3 Deluxes,2 Voyagers and 1 Leader that we know of.

Kind of makes you think what if anything else there may be in SS-86 if most of the rest of main cast is in Kingdom.

Did anyone ever say that Cyclonus wasn't going to be in Studio Series? I don't know about you guys, but I could totally go for a darker repaint. Maybe he'll show up there later? I'm holding out hope.

Seibertron wrote:Did anyone ever say that Cyclonus wasn't going to be in Studio Series? I don't know about you guys, but I could totally go for a darker repaint. Maybe he'll show up there later? I'm holding out hope.

Nothing has been said that he can't be there later in a darker color. But that would be even stranger. A toy accurate purple over the animation accurate lavender? A non animation accurate re-deco in an animation accurate line of so far new molds?

Great gallery!

I'm still so on the fence about this guy. I love Cyclonus, and it's probably the most accurate CHUG Cyclonus, seemingly a nifty transformation to boot, and will scale well with Studio Series Scourge and Kingdom Galvatron...

...but I love the original Universe 2.0 Cyclonus, and think his robot mode looks BETTER if not more accurate. And if we're just chasing most accurate, I already have FT Quietus for that at MP Scale. And I already have a hard enough time justifying spending space on CHUG and MP collections without trying to justify keeping a second take on a character.

Up to now in WFC, I've let the in-store moment decide. I didn't think I needed a new CHUG Sideswipe... until I saw Siege Sideswipe on the shelf in person and felt an immediate "yes, I need that" response. Same with Hound and Wheeljack. (And I regretted none of those purchases.) But the new Kingdom packaging shows so little of the figure -- and in the case of Cyclonus here, doesn't show the legs, which are the clumsiest looking part.

Maybe better run through all these photos one more time and see if I can make up my mind...

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Did anyone ever say that Cyclonus wasn't going to be in Studio Series? I don't know about you guys, but I could totally go for a darker repaint. Maybe he'll show up there later? I'm holding out hope.

Nothing has been said that he can't be there later in a darker color. But that would be even stranger. A toy accurate purple over the animation accurate lavender? A non animation accurate re-deco in an animation accurate line of so far new molds?

I would disagreee that that color is accurate. Just watched some G1 Season 3 last night while cropping photos. It looks darker to me. It seems to depend on which episode you're talking about and even which scene. I'm not a fan of the lighter lavender and prefer the darker coloring.

Overcracker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:This of course makes it more confusing as to why he's in Kingdom and not SS86. He's got that level of detailed transformation and movie accurate robot mode. Not enough slots in SS to go around?

Kingdom would have had more G1 toys in it if not for Beast Wars sharing the same anniversary as TFTM. Kingdom also has Galvatron, Ultra Magnus, and Rodimus Prime in it too, as well as non-TFTM G1 guys like Warpath, Huffer, Pipes, Tracks, Slammer, Inferno, and rereleases of Arcee and Wheeljack.

Which is my point. Why are certain figures that are clearly meant for the TFtM 86 anniversary in Kingdom?

Because the third part of the WFC Trilogy would have had ALL of the TFTM toys if not for the Beast Wars toys taking up the space they needed.

Seibertron wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Did anyone ever say that Cyclonus wasn't going to be in Studio Series? I don't know about you guys, but I could totally go for a darker repaint. Maybe he'll show up there later? I'm holding out hope.

Nothing has been said that he can't be there later in a darker color. But that would be even stranger. A toy accurate purple over the animation accurate lavender? A non animation accurate re-deco in an animation accurate line of so far new molds?

I would disagreee that that color is accurate. Just watched some G1 Season 3 last night while cropping photos. It looks darker to me. It seems to depend on which episode you're talking about and even which scene. I'm not a fan of the lighter lavender and prefer the darker coloring.

Hard to be accurate when the color changes from episode to episode and scene to scene. I think they are going for something that looks like the movie coloring even if not 100% there, not so much the season 3 and 4 colors which had a habit of changing even between cuts of the same scene as you say.

In which case from all the colors Cyclonus has been, which one do you find most accurate, or at least more to your liking?

I like the dark purple of the G1 toy, which the Universe Cyclonus manages to get right in my view.

But I won't say this lavender is bad. Would I like it in a darker purple? Sure. I'd love it in a darker purple.

But its not something we have not seen before.

Transformers War for Cybertron: Kingdom Cyclonus Gallery


Transformers War for Cybertron: Kingdom Cyclonus Gallery

I think it matches this scene:

I think the Reveal the Shield "Rodimus vs. Cyclonus" one has the most middle-ground deco, being not too dark, not too bright, not too purple, and not too blue. A "just right" sweet spot of blue-violet.

Though, the Unite Warriors deco is pretty gorgeous too.

I have the RTS Cyclonus from that set
Not sure if I want to sell it (but keep nightstick, of course) when I get Kingdom version or keep it as "his armada" lol

Razorbeast88 wrote:I have the RTS Cyclonus from that set
Not sure if I want to sell it (but keep nightstick, of course) when I get Kingdom version or keep it as "his armada" lol

I'm keeping my Universe Cyclonus as his armada.

Overcracker wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:I have the RTS Cyclonus from that set
Not sure if I want to sell it (but keep nightstick, of course) when I get Kingdom version or keep it as "his armada" lol

I'm keeping my Universe Cyclonus as his armada.

Well, im convinced haha ill do the same. I think I'll do the same with SS86 Scourge as well and keep my generations scourge as one of his sweeps. Though I think I'll need to get at least one more generations scourge, one sweep just isn't enough lol

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:I have the RTS Cyclonus from that set
Not sure if I want to sell it (but keep nightstick, of course) when I get Kingdom version or keep it as "his armada" lol

I'm keeping my Universe Cyclonus as his armada.

Well, im convinced haha ill do the same. I think I'll do the same with SS86 Scourge as well and keep my generations scourge as one of his sweeps. Though I think I'll need to get at least one more generations scourge, one sweep just isn't enough lol

Not sure what I'd do when it comes to organising. Universe Galvatron, mediocre as he is, and his fellow Deluxe-sized minions may be getting their own shelf. Funnily enough, Cyclonus is the only non-Earth Mode of the group.

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Did anyone ever say that Cyclonus wasn't going to be in Studio Series? I don't know about you guys, but I could totally go for a darker repaint. Maybe he'll show up there later? I'm holding out hope.

Nothing has been said that he can't be there later in a darker color. But that would be even stranger. A toy accurate purple over the animation accurate lavender? A non animation accurate re-deco in an animation accurate line of so far new molds?

Don't forget Cogman. Granted that was an improved Deco but it was a rerelease of an old mold.

The mid transformation picture makes me wonder if he can do a GERWALK/Guardian mode

Still not totally sold over the previous version I have (Hot Rod v. Cyclounus 2 pack). Too beefcake for me. But the transformation, articulation & size are much improved though. I'll probably get him on sale or if it's really nice in hand.

Flashwave wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Did anyone ever say that Cyclonus wasn't going to be in Studio Series? I don't know about you guys, but I could totally go for a darker repaint. Maybe he'll show up there later? I'm holding out hope.

Nothing has been said that he can't be there later in a darker color. But that would be even stranger. A toy accurate purple over the animation accurate lavender? A non animation accurate re-deco in an animation accurate line of so far new molds?

Don't forget Cogman. Granted that was an improved Deco but it was a rerelease of an old mold.

Exception that proves the rule? I think Cogman's the only not-SS-specific mold to be used in SS. I may be wrong though.

with that said, I'm not going to just say its impossible, because I've learned from Hasbro that they sometimes do things nobody thought they would do.

Overcracker wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Did anyone ever say that Cyclonus wasn't going to be in Studio Series? I don't know about you guys, but I could totally go for a darker repaint. Maybe he'll show up there later? I'm holding out hope.

Nothing has been said that he can't be there later in a darker color. But that would be even stranger. A toy accurate purple over the animation accurate lavender? A non animation accurate re-deco in an animation accurate line of so far new molds?

Don't forget Cogman. Granted that was an improved Deco but it was a rerelease of an old mold.

Exception that proves the rule? I think Cogman's the only not-SS-specific mold to be used in SS. I may be wrong though.

KSI Boss and Thundercracker from TLK Nitro, that baby Dinobot set with Drift and that TLK Bumblebee from the Then and Now 2-pack. Along with Cogman, KSI Boss is the only one in that list that's general retail tho. Wasted a chance of making a Shockwave head even.

Overcracker wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Did anyone ever say that Cyclonus wasn't going to be in Studio Series? I don't know about you guys, but I could totally go for a darker repaint. Maybe he'll show up there later? I'm holding out hope.

Nothing has been said that he can't be there later in a darker color. But that would be even stranger. A toy accurate purple over the animation accurate lavender? A non animation accurate re-deco in an animation accurate line of so far new molds?

Don't forget Cogman. Granted that was an improved Deco but it was a rerelease of an old mold.

Exception that proves the rule? I think Cogman's the only not-SS-specific mold to be used in SS. I may be wrong though.

with that said, I'm not going to just say its impossible, because I've learned from Hasbro that they sometimes do things nobody thought they would do.

Nitro Zeus was also used, as Thundercracker and KSI Boss

Edit: sorry, didn't see it was already answered.

Rtron wrote:Nitro Zeus was also used, as Thundercracker and KSI Boss

Edit: sorry, didn't see it was already answered.

Perfectly fine Point remains that older molds or molds from a different line can be used for SS if the situation calls for it.

Rtron wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Did anyone ever say that Cyclonus wasn't going to be in Studio Series? I don't know about you guys, but I could totally go for a darker repaint. Maybe he'll show up there later? I'm holding out hope.

Nothing has been said that he can't be there later in a darker color. But that would be even stranger. A toy accurate purple over the animation accurate lavender? A non animation accurate re-deco in an animation accurate line of so far new molds?

Don't forget Cogman. Granted that was an improved Deco but it was a rerelease of an old mold.

Exception that proves the rule? I think Cogman's the only not-SS-specific mold to be used in SS. I may be wrong though.

with that said, I'm not going to just say its impossible, because I've learned from Hasbro that they sometimes do things nobody thought they would do.

Nitro Zeus was also used, as Thundercracker and KSI Boss

Edit: sorry, didn't see it was already answered.

I stand corrected. Thanks.

Looks like cyclonus legs dont double as stationary holders YAY. He seems to be one of a few characters that has never had a bad figure (I like G1 cyclonus though I can see why others might not). Just not sure I need another one, will have to wait and see if I pick up SS86 Scourge and feel the need for shiny new cyclonus beside him over Unite/CW.

Sabrblade wrote:The Golden Disk cards show one of three Destinies for the characters. That's just one of Optimus's three Destinies.

I know that's what Hasbro said about these but I've yet to see anyone around the internet that got this promo wave and a different Optimus card. Maybe I just need to look harder?

Seibertron wrote:Mini-Masterpiece

Eww, it's that term again! Can't we just say something is good without this misnomer comparison?

ScottyP wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The Golden Disk cards show one of three Destinies for the characters. That's just one of Optimus's three Destinies.

I know that's what Hasbro said about these but I've yet to see anyone around the internet that got this promo wave and a different Optimus card. Maybe I just need to look harder?

I seem to recall seeing in part of a press release that although there are 16 different cards, each of the four waves only has access to a subset of four. While it's unclear if it's completely random or if specific figures always come with the same card, wave 1 figures will always have one of those four cards. IIRC, they are Optimus dead in space, Dinobot mixed faction group shot, Blackarachnia with extensive red and purple paint apps, and the Ark crash landed in 1984.

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