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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:39 am
by mordhelm
TR Ravage was heavily criticized for it's shape.

On the note of the Cassette cons, are we certain there will be no more Micromasters being released in the mainline?

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:41 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
mordhelm wrote:TR Ravage was heavily criticized for it's shape.

On the note of the Cassette cons, are we certain there will be no more Micromasters being released in the mainline?


We have 2 more Patrols coming up: a "Road Patrol" (your guess is as good as mine) and the Decepticon Sports Car Patrol. Totally expecting Blackjack out of Swindler.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:50 am
by william-james88
jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:11 am
by Sabrblade
jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.
All of the criticisms about TR Ravage were given way back in 2016. We're in 2019 now, we've long since moved on to harping on more recent figures.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:22 am
by Randomhero
william-james88 wrote:
jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.



I’m someone who tries to find something good in every toy and was thinking back on a TR figure that was the least appealing. Sadly it’s Ravage to me. I got him, changed him once and put him in one of my junk tubs that I keep CW hands and guns in. I really have a hard time with that one.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:34 am
by hausjam
Like most of Siege, I am passing on Soundwave. But I think I am actually gonna get the cassettes for my mib collection.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:50 pm
by Nemesis Maximo
william-james88 wrote:
jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the worst TF toys ever made. I even like CW Brakedown more than TR Ravage, and Will knows how much I hate CW Brakedown. :lol:

To keep this relevant, I haven’t particularly liked any version of G1 Ravage since the original. Even the Materpiece version is not without it’s flaws. Having a slab turn into a lithe big cat has got to be a tall order, and it makes me wish John Warden would yank his cranium out of his rectum long enough to say “hey let’s maybe have Ravage turn into the Wolverine thing from the War Within comic” instead of just giving us another crappy Geewun rectangle that gets legs.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:00 pm
by Hellscream9999
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the worst TF toys ever made. I even like CW Brakedown more than TR Ravage, and Will knows how much I hate CW Brakedown. :lol:

To keep this relevant, I haven’t particularly liked any version of G1 Ravage since the original. Even the Materpiece version is not without it’s flaws. Having a slab turn into a lithe big cat has got to be a tall order, and it makes me wish John Warden would yank his cranium out of his rectum long enough to say “hey let’s maybe have Ravage turn into the Wolverine thing from the War Within comic” instead of just giving us another crappy Geewun rectangle that gets legs.

One of the reasons I love energon/alternators battle ravage as a character, and bw tm ravage

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:08 pm
by ZeroWolf
Energon Battle Ravage is a fantastic toy

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:10 pm
by AllNewSuperRobot
I do hold out hope for MP Beast Wars Ravage someday. A fully formed Bot, that turns into a Slab :lol:

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:33 pm
by william-james88
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the worst TF toys ever made. I even like CW Brakedown more than TR Ravage, and Will knows how much I hate CW Brakedown. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
And I was right there with you, those stupid hips :BOOM:

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:42 pm
by Flashwave
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the worst TF toys ever made. I even like CW Brakedown more than TR Ravage, and Will knows how much I hate CW Brakedown. :lol:

To keep this relevant, I haven’t particularly liked any version of G1 Ravage since the original. Even the Materpiece version is not without it’s flaws. Having a slab turn into a lithe big cat has got to be a tall order, and it makes me wish John Warden would yank his cranium out of his rectum long enough to say “hey let’s maybe have Ravage turn into the Wolverine thing from the War Within comic” instead of just giving us another crappy Geewun rectangle that gets legs.

The Classics Ravage figure does a pretty gpod job pf being lran, but the trade off is that wierdly arched back.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:31 pm
by Nemesis Maximo
Flashwave wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
jtanimator wrote:It's so strange to me that people are constantly criticizing this Ravage for being too "chunky", and yet hardly anyone seemed to bat an eye at the Titans Return Ravage (or any reincarnation of that mold) which is what I consider to be one of the worst renditions of ravage (or any legends class transformers for that matter) I've ever seen. He doesn't only look terrible, he feels INCREDIBLY cheap, and has a very forced and uninspired transformation. And the only mode he has that doesn't completely suck is his """""tablet""""" mode. Which is saying something lol.
This little guy, however, looks so STINKIN' cute and well made. Can't wait to get my hands on these guys!

Sorry. Had to get that off my chest.

Everyone critized TR Ravage, that was easily the least liked toy from TR.

I’d go as far as to say it’s one of the worst TF toys ever made. I even like CW Brakedown more than TR Ravage, and Will knows how much I hate CW Brakedown. :lol:

To keep this relevant, I haven’t particularly liked any version of G1 Ravage since the original. Even the Materpiece version is not without it’s flaws. Having a slab turn into a lithe big cat has got to be a tall order, and it makes me wish John Warden would yank his cranium out of his rectum long enough to say “hey let’s maybe have Ravage turn into the Wolverine thing from the War Within comic” instead of just giving us another crappy Geewun rectangle that gets legs.

The Classics Ravage figure does a pretty gpod job pf being lran

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Sorry, couldn’t help myself. :-D

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:59 pm
by Rainmaker
I actually hate Twinferno and Minewipe more, I think TR Ravage is pretty good.

:MAXIMAL:

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:36 pm
by Skritz
Anyone else think it's interesting we haven't seen any pics of that long-rumored but seemingly confirmed Leader Optimus beyond, maybe, the IDW comic cover? I guess Hasbro figure the fans will have already splurged out on the Voyager one anyway, because it's more GEEWUN. >:oP

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:39 pm
by ZeroWolf
I suspect we'll see Prime soon enough, there's a toy fair in February afterall

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:44 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
Skritz wrote:Anyone else think it's interesting we haven't seen any pics of that long-rumored but seemingly confirmed Leader Optimus beyond, maybe, the IDW comic cover? I guess Hasbro figure the fans will have already splurged out on the Voyager one anyway, because it's more GEEWUN. >:oP


It's not that, and really, when has Hasbro let our supposed shopping habits influence them that much?

No, each Size Class has its own release dates for waves, and Leaders happen to come a tad later than the rest. In fact, I'm willing to bet that Cybertron-inspired Prime is closer to Wave 3 rather than Wave 2.

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:53 pm
by Sentinel_Primal
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Skritz wrote:Anyone else think it's interesting we haven't seen any pics of that long-rumored but seemingly confirmed Leader Optimus beyond, maybe, the IDW comic cover? I guess Hasbro figure the fans will have already splurged out on the Voyager one anyway, because it's more GEEWUN. >:oP


It's not that, and really, when has Hasbro let our supposed shopping habits influence them that much?

No, each Size Class has its own release dates for waves, and Leaders happen to come a tad later than the rest. In fact, I'm willing to bet that Cybertron-inspired Prime is closer to Wave 3 rather than Wave 2.

I'm hoping that Hasbro learned their lesson with the fiasco that was Optimal Optimus' distributions and decided to make the three leaders dispersed throughout Siege's run. So wave 1 is Magnus and Shockwave, wave 2 is Shockwave and Prime, and wave 3 is Magnus and Prime. Each figure gets two waves so that they can be found easier. But, this is Hasbro after all, so they probably didn't learn >:oP

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:17 pm
by Hellscream9999
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Skritz wrote:Anyone else think it's interesting we haven't seen any pics of that long-rumored but seemingly confirmed Leader Optimus beyond, maybe, the IDW comic cover? I guess Hasbro figure the fans will have already splurged out on the Voyager one anyway, because it's more GEEWUN. >:oP


It's not that, and really, when has Hasbro let our supposed shopping habits influence them that much?

No, each Size Class has its own release dates for waves, and Leaders happen to come a tad later than the rest. In fact, I'm willing to bet that Cybertron-inspired Prime is closer to Wave 3 rather than Wave 2.

I'm hoping that Hasbro learned their lesson with the fiasco that was Optimal Optimus' distributions and decided to make the three leaders dispersed throughout Siege's run. So wave 1 is Magnus and Shockwave, wave 2 is Shockwave and Prime, and wave 3 is Magnus and Prime. Each figure gets two waves so that they can be found easier. But, this is Hasbro after all, so they probably didn't learn >:oP

I dunno what happened, but I saw every figure released last year at least 2-4 times at actual stores, combine that along with the amount of time some figures actually spent as 'in stock' online, and I'd say we had a great year (for example there were whole days where optimal was in stock on hts)

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:23 pm
by Rodimus Prime
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As a brief aside, a friend pointed out three orignal Micromasters I've unknowingly had in my collection since being a kid: Big Shot, Erector and Swindler. I bought them second-hand (pre-internet) and I just liked them because they were "tiny Transformers", knowing nothing more.
:shock: Erector is a go**amn Hall of Famer! How could you not know you had him?! :lol:

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:33 pm
by Skritz
Rodimus Prime wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As a brief aside, a friend pointed out three orignal Micromasters I've unknowingly had in my collection since being a kid: Big Shot, Erector and Swindler. I bought them second-hand (pre-internet) and I just liked them because they were "tiny Transformers", knowing nothing more.
:shock: Erector is a go**amn Hall of Famer! How could you not know you had him?! :lol:


His name is equally (in)famous in the fandom, too. :lol:

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:35 pm
by Sabrblade
Rodimus Prime wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As a brief aside, a friend pointed out three orignal Micromasters I've unknowingly had in my collection since being a kid: Big Shot, Erector and Swindler. I bought them second-hand (pre-internet) and I just liked them because they were "tiny Transformers", knowing nothing more.
:shock: Erector is a go**amn Hall of Famer!
No he's not. He lost that year to Waspinator. :P

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:45 pm
by Rodimus Prime
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As a brief aside, a friend pointed out three orignal Micromasters I've unknowingly had in my collection since being a kid: Big Shot, Erector and Swindler. I bought them second-hand (pre-internet) and I just liked them because they were "tiny Transformers", knowing nothing more.
:shock: Erector is a go**amn Hall of Famer!
No he's not. He lost that year to Waspinator. :P
Oh... I thought he was the fan vote that year. And I even went to BotCon that year! Okay, never mind. >:oP

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:59 pm
by D-Maximal_Primal
Siege finally hit the Wal-mart by me!...

And sadly, they only had the deluxes I already got and the voyagers I do not want. No Shockwave, Micromasters, or Battlemasters. Shoot.

On a plus side, Stakeout looks great! Cannot wait to get him to my Wreckers shelf!

Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:12 am
by Emerje
All this talk about how bad TR and Siege Ravage are makes Generations Ravage very happy that everyone forgot how terrible he was.

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Emerje