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-Kanrabat- wrote:I still find that Wheeljack toy to be almost perfect.

And I still find it to not be Wheeljack at all, but that junkpile from Bayformers 5, Canopy.




A definite peg-warmer, assuming you find it anywhere at all. I should be grateful to Hasblo for doing everything then can to help me save money.

Brokebot wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I still find that Wheeljack toy to be almost perfect.

And I still find it to not be Wheeljack at all, but that junkpile from Bayformers 5, Canopy.

All right. Try this out. Just call him "Larry Robotson".
This is not Wheeljack, but a brand new character, Larry Robotson.

So, as Larry Robotson, the design, altmode, and bot mode are much better, right?

And if you're so closed-minded that you just refuse to see it as it's own thing, that's on you. If you take pleasure in hating things, you do you. ¯\_( ͡°ヮ ͡°)_/¯

Wheeljack continues to look great, I eagerly anticipate him.

If they used him as a base for Canopy, I would be OK with that, even if I think SS Long Haul would be a better base, maybe as a selects repaint.

Also hoping his alt mode will lead to Dreadbot finally getting a figure.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Brokebot wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I still find that Wheeljack toy to be almost perfect.

And I still find it to not be Wheeljack at all, but that junkpile from Bayformers 5, Canopy.

All right. Try this out. Just call him "Larry Robotson".
This is not Wheeljack, but a brand new character, Larry Robotson.

So, as Larry Robotson, the design, altmode, and bot mode are much better, right?

And if you're so closed-minded that you just refuse to see it as it's own thing, that's on you. If you take pleasure in hating things, you do you. ¯\_( ͡°ヮ ͡°)_/¯

We're going about this all wrong.

This is clearly the Family Matters × Transformers Collaborative Urkelbot.

Sabrblade wrote:We're going about this all wrong.

This is clearly the Family Matters × Transformers Collaborative Urkelbot.

Damn. Nearly spot on. It just has to turn into a BMW Isetta instead of a psudo VW van.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Brokebot wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I still find that Wheeljack toy to be almost perfect.

And I still find it to not be Wheeljack at all, but that junkpile from Bayformers 5, Canopy.

All right. Try this out. Just call him "Larry Robotson".
This is not Wheeljack, but a brand new character, Larry Robotson.

So, as Larry Robotson, the design, altmode, and bot mode are much better, right?

And if you're so closed-minded that you just refuse to see it as it's own thing, that's on you. If you take pleasure in hating things, you do you. ¯\_( ͡°ヮ ͡°)_/¯

I dislike it as it's own thing and as any other thing. Having a different opinion than yours isn't closed-minded. It means I think for myself and have come to an opposite and equally valid viewpoint.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Brokebot wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I still find that Wheeljack toy to be almost perfect.

And I still find it to not be Wheeljack at all, but that junkpile from Bayformers 5, Canopy.

All right. Try this out. Just call him "Larry Robotson".
This is not Wheeljack, but a brand new character, Larry Robotson.

So, as Larry Robotson, the design, altmode, and bot mode are much better, right?

And if you're so closed-minded that you just refuse to see it as it's own thing, that's on you. If you take pleasure in hating things, you do you. ¯\_( ͡°ヮ ͡°)_/¯

We're going about this all wrong.

This is clearly the Family Matters × Transformers Collaborative Urkelbot.

A hidden Xover figure without the extra licensing surcharge? Count me in!

Brokebot wrote:I dislike it as it's own thing and as any other thing. Having a different opinion than yours isn't closed-minded. It means I think for myself and have come to an opposite and equally valid viewpoint.

I don't believe you at all. If that character would have been presented as Larry Robotson instead of Wheeljack, you would never had taking it as a "personal insult" and hated it. At worse you would just have been indifferent.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Brokebot wrote:I dislike it as it's own thing and as any other thing. Having a different opinion than yours isn't closed-minded. It means I think for myself and have come to an opposite and equally valid viewpoint.

I don't believe you at all. If that character would have been presented as Larry Robotson instead of Wheeljack, you would never had taking it as a "personal insult" and hated it. At worse you would just have been indifferent.

Fortunately for me, what you believe is irrelevant, and had that come out with the name "Larry Robotson," I would have commented that it was given a name as equally moronic as gluing goggles to it's face.

Brokebot wrote:Fortunately for me, what you believe is irrelevant, and had that come out with the name "Larry Robotson," I would have commented that it was given a name as equally moronic as gluing goggles to it's face.

So you admit that I have awesome naming sense!

The derpiest name for the derpiest face!

I agree NOT Wheeljack looks okay, unfortunately I simply don't need some bizarre looking bot due to space issues. I've passed up many a Transformers that I have a passing like for due to that fact.
While neat it just doesn't have that "must buy" vibe for me. Then again none of the live actions Movie bots have.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I agree NOT Wheeljack looks okay, unfortunately I simply don't need some bizarre looking bot due to space issues. I've passed up many a Transformers that I have a passing like for due to that fact.
While neat it just doesn't have that "must buy" vibe for me. Then again none of the live actions Movie bots have.

What about ROTF Mindwipe? Random question, I know, but while movie bots were never my Forte, that one was must buy when I first learnt of its existence.

Honestly don't recall ever seeing Mindwipe, then again ROTF was very forgettable.

Looking at the toy the alt mode looks pretty cool, the bot mode though is way to spindly. But I will say he's not the worst movie TF design I've ever seen.

I actually really like movie Hot Rod but I just don't have a big enough interest to justify the space, I'm already running out and I'm not even finished with G1.

Till-all-R1 wrote:Honestly don't recall ever seeing Mindwipe, then again ROTF was very forgettable.

Looking at the toy the alt mode looks pretty cool, the bot mode though is way to spindly. But I will say he's not the worst movie TF design I've ever seen.

I actually really like movie Hot Rod but I just don't have a big enough interest to justify the space, I'm already running out and I'm not even finished with G1.

Oh man, that SS Hot Rod is a great toy. Really nice Evolution of the traditional G1 hood of car as chest design. And if you like lambos, well this one's for you.
But I'm easy to please. I even like the SS crosshairs for the simple reason that his trenchcoat is well integrated into the alt mode.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Wheeljack continues to look great, I eagerly anticipate him.

No, he doesn't. That design doesn't fit with the tone of the movie. Urkel lookinass.

84everfan wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Wheeljack continues to look great, I eagerly anticipate him.

No, he doesn't. That design doesn't fit with the tone of the movie. Urkel lookinass.

That's not Wheeljack. That's Larry Robotson.

84everfan wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Wheeljack continues to look great, I eagerly anticipate him.

No, he doesn't. That design doesn't fit with the tone of the movie. Urkel lookinass.

Yes, he does. Wheeljack be lookin' good and fun

84everfan wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Wheeljack continues to look great, I eagerly anticipate him.

No, he doesn't. That design doesn't fit with the tone of the movie. Urkel lookinass.

It's a movie aimed at nerds that also has a strong Black culture vibe. Urkel was both a nerd and Black. That matches up nicely. I see nothing wrong, here.

We haven't actually seen Wheeljack in the ROTB so accuracy and representation is up in the air at the moment.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:

84everfan wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Wheeljack continues to look great, I eagerly anticipate him.

No, he doesn't. That design doesn't fit with the tone of the movie. Urkel lookinass.

It's a movie aimed at nerds that also has a strong Black culture vibe. Urkel was both a nerd and Black. That matches up nicely. I see nothing wrong, here.

Just pointing out that culture has no color.
There's black people all over the world. the world have hundreds of countries. Those countries can have dozens of provinces/counties. Those provinces/counties can have dozens of cities and villages. Those villages can have dozens or hundreds of neighborhood. Those neighborhood can have thousands of families. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE STEPS CAN HAVE THEIR OWN CULTURE AND SUBCULTURE.
Now repeat this for every single "races". And consider that many, so many of these cultures can be shared and mixed, no matter the color of the skin.

When someone associate a culture to a color, it piss me off to no end. Because that's saying "All of those of the color X are the same." That's textbook genuine racism.

The producers saying "celebrating black/hispanic culture" are either clueless about that fact (like too many others) or they may have been coerced into claiming that just so they can earn their ESG money.

Also, Eckel wasn't the only one who had the "Nerd look". He just had the classic Nerd look like so many had before him. But to be honest, I think it's a case of "chicken and egg" here.

-Kanrabat- wrote:When someone associate a culture to a color, it piss me off to no end. Because that's saying "All of those of the color X are the same." That's textbook genuine racism.

Technically just ignorance for the vast amount of people simply because they don't know anything beyond their own borders. And actually you can attribute color to some cultures because they've never interbred with anyone outside their race. There are plenty of culture on this Earth who are still only one color due to the fact they have no interaction with the outside world.

A lot of people want to blame racism on everything it seems maybe because they need to create a villain to overcome as their life lacks anything of real substance. I'd call it more of people being Nationalists or Culturalists, because across the globe you have several people who want to keep it status quo and not allow foreigners into their circle. And most definitely not allow them to have any say in their policy making for their Country. Some in the U.S. even try to equate not allowing illegal immigrants in as being racist, when plenty of other Countries have borders and deny entry unless you have proper documents. And they almost never allow any immigrant to dictate policies. But nothing is ever said about that.

Your comment reads as someone who also only has one box to put people in while trying to state the opposite.

I know there's culture's that are ethno-centric.

But I'm speaking about "-INSERT COLOR- culture" specifically.

Hoh, and the ethno-centrists will never, ever refer to themselves as a "color". They'll refer to themselves as members of a nationality or a tribe.

"-Insert color- culture" make no sense and is infuriating.
Just take the "African American" for example. There's huge cultural differences between Harlem and New Orleans.

As for "races", anything goes it seems. Often with tragic results.
Ask the Hutu and the Tutsi.

So following the idea that Studio Series is going to have a retool of OP from the Bee movie what do you guys think OP would look like in this line? Just going by the two different Cheetors we've seen my guess is it could be a pretty wild difference

M. Spector wrote:So following the idea that Studio Series is going to have a retool of OP from the Bee movie what do you guys think OP would look like in this line? Just going by the two different Cheetors we've seen my guess is it could be a pretty wild difference

I'll be surprised if SS ROTB Optimus will merely be a retool.
From the truck alone, I expect this Optimus to be a pretty meaty boy. So, a brand new mold.

M. Spector wrote:So following the idea that Studio Series is going to have a retool of OP from the Bee movie what do you guys think OP would look like in this line? Just going by the two different Cheetors we've seen my guess is it could be a pretty wild difference

There's that Smash Changers Optimus Prime toy in the Cyberverse line that was supposed to be in the Rise of the Beasts line proper.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

M. Spector wrote:So following the idea that Studio Series is going to have a retool of OP from the Bee movie what do you guys think OP would look like in this line? Just going by the two different Cheetors we've seen my guess is it could be a pretty wild difference

I'll be surprised if SS ROTB Optimus will merely be a retool.
From the truck alone, I expect this Optimus to be a pretty meaty boy. So, a brand new mold.

The Prime we've seen in trailers in both robot and truck mode is just a slightly recolored Bumblebee movie Prime.

I expect he may upgrade to the chunkier alt mode we got in Cyberverse at some point in the movie, so the other figure will be likely following that in what should be an entirely new mold.