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chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Lastly, the Target closest to me, is one of the few that actually stocks Super7 toys. Now I know they have their fans...and they got lots of new ones this morning it appears...but why do they have like 3 pegs dedicated to S7, and only 1 to Deluxe Legacy??

I feel the same way about Marvel Legends only having 1 peg while those retro style 3 inch marvel figures get more space. Nan talk about toys no one asked for.
That's at Walmart where there are no reaction figures.

But at TRU, it's like your situation, way more space dedicated to super 7 than Legacy Deluxe Class.

I have a question though, you said online is more expensive, but isn't shipping free at a particular threshold for most places? Like Target and Amazon. But yes, if the goal is also to get something earlier then brick and mortar can't be written off.

You'd be surprised what's really selling, those "Retro" lines do move, meanwhile, Target almost dropped Marvel Legends completely because two lines in a row didn't sell and had to be put on clearance.

Yes, I am surprised, since from the feedback I see on message boards, Hasbro can't rely on fans to sell whatever portion you'd expect in other lines that interest fans. So that would means kids and parents are left to buy them.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I have a question though, you said online is more expensive, but isn't shipping free at a particular threshold for most places? Like Target and Amazon.

At least in my area (obviously can't speak for o.supreme), the brick-and-mortar prices for the main retail waves have lagged behind in price increases compared to online. While exclusives like Buzzworthy Silverstreak and the Velocitron Deluxes are still going up at $24.99 online and in-store pre-tax, the retail Legacy (and I think also Studio Series, but I haven't bought an SS figure in a bit so I could be wrong) Deluxes are still at $22.99 because they only rose to that point when Legacy started, not when Hasbro implemented that change mid-Kingdom. If I'm buying multiple figures per wave, I would absolutely rather buy from the cheaper option since that'll add up, and unless figures are on-sale online (like Amazon Warehouse deals) the cheaper option ends up being brick-and-mortar 9/10 times even taking into account free shipping.

It's very similar. I do have Amazon Prime, which does offer free shipping, but you still have tax. Honestly I use Prime mostly for books and physical media more so than toys unless I have no other option. But whereas last year Kingdom Deluxes would go down, even at pre order in some cases to $17 or $18, that's not happening with Legacy. There are occasional sales (like Skids is $17.50 right now), but all pre-orders are at $24.99

Target and Walmart have them for around $21 or $22 (Yes Buzzworthy and exclusives are a bit more expensive, but you get the idea, also ironically, because of the overstock of Toy deco Terrorsaur and raw chicken Dinobot, I anticipate those going on sale soon if they ever hope to move them). B&M is still overall cheaper as long as not too much time and fuel is expended.

As for getting something first its all random. Last year items would seemingly be online months before B&M. With Legacy, it seems to be the opposite at the moment. I've literally seen everything for wave 2 now except for Wildrider...go figure. I've even seen most of the new SS stuff also (never saw core Spike, but have seen plenty of Wheelie & Ratchet). Also I believe the newest Voyager assortment with BB Thundercracker and AoE Galvatron has been spotted, but I haven't seen those yet either.

I see, so yeah due to the fast changing prices, the online outlets are quicker to update than the brick and mortar so those end up being at a deal, yeah. For some reason in Canada walmart was really quick to bump up the price and TRU is a lost cause now with their 20-30% markup on all Hasbro products. So fans wanting to make sure they get all their toys at the best price end up with preorders from Gamestop as a best option. Crazy how times have changed.

With Earthrise giving us Cliffjumper at the deluxe price scale, we all saw that Hasbro would be keen on rereleasing all minibots in this new price point. Since then we got Bumblebee, Warpath, Pipes, Huffer and Cosmos and these new listings from JT Prime show that more are on the way. In the list below we can see that we will be getting a deluxe Brawn and Beachcomber next year. There is also Bombshell to further our Insecticon collection and core Thundercracker as expected. And this year of Legacy is going all out on the multiverse idea by bringing in RID with Strongarm (though there are other bots called Strongarm so we'll see) and Cyberverse Shadowstriker. That last one is a real tease since we previously had a listing named "ShadowS" which turned out to be "Shadowstrip" but this time we do have the ShadowStriker name written out. Below is a full list which also includes a new Wild Rider listing with a different code than the previous release and not labelled as PR (Product Refresh) so this "might" be another G2 Stunticon.

Tra Gen legacy Ev Deluxe Tarantulas Pr
Product Number: F7204

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe ShadowStriker
Product Number: F7197

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Strongarm
Product Number: F7201

Tra Gen legacy Ev Deluxe Junkion 3
Product Number: F7199

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Bombshell
Product Number: F7200

Tra Gen Legacy Deluxe Beachcomber
Product Number: F7196

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Detrius
Product Number: F7202

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Devcon
product Number : F7198

Tra Gen Legacy EV Robo WLD RDR
Product Number: F3038

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Core Thundercracker
Product Number: F7179

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Voyager Dirge Pr
Product Number: F7212

Tra Gen Legacy EV Scraphook
Product Number: F7191

Tra Gen Studio series core 86 Frenzy
Product Number: F7492

Tra Gen studio series core 86 Ironhide
Product number: F489

Tra Gen Studio series 86 Dlx Brawn
Product Number: F7236

Tra Gen studio series 86 Voyager Ratchet
Product Number: F7243

Really excited for Strongarm.

I would have assumed Robo WLD RDR refers to "Robots in Disguise Universe Wildrider" but in the 2015 RID series the closest name used was Wildbreak.

This may be my favorite leak list yet. Shadow Striker and Strongarm potentially on the same Legacy shelf peg? Fantastic.

Detritus? Yes! Oddly excited if it turns out to be the same Junkion-Hound

Tra Gen Studio series 86 Dlx Brawn

Sweet Primus, sing! Hallelujah!
Praise the lords! Can I get an amen, my brother bot?! Can we sing on high, my sister-mechs? Oh, yeah!

I am happy.

Mkall wrote:Detritus? Yes! Oddly excited if it turns out to be the same Junkion-Hound

Maybe this means we're finally getting earth mode Hound? And the repaint will just release before the "original" character, Prime Wars style. Devcon is a deluxe, so I'm intrigued if he'll be a new mold or a retool/pretool of something else.

Rtron wrote:

Mkall wrote:Detritus? Yes! Oddly excited if it turns out to be the same Junkion-Hound

Maybe this means we're finally getting earth mode Hound? And the repaint will just release before the "original" character, Prime Wars style. Devcon is a deluxe, so I'm intrigued if he'll be a new mold or a retool/pretool of something else.

Detritus might just be the Siege mold, we just got another Siege Soundwave release with a new deco.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Rtron wrote:

Mkall wrote:Detritus? Yes! Oddly excited if it turns out to be the same Junkion-Hound

Maybe this means we're finally getting earth mode Hound? And the repaint will just release before the "original" character, Prime Wars style. Devcon is a deluxe, so I'm intrigued if he'll be a new mold or a retool/pretool of something else.

Detritus might just be the Siege mold, we just got another Siege Soundwave release with a new deco.

I too am assuming that's a Siege Hound redeco. Cool to see both coneheads reissued. I could have saved money if I waited but there was no way of knowing this could/would happen

I'm really interested to see what those deluxe Junkions look like, as I have so far been on the fence about the '86 Wreck-Gar and Junkheap. If at least Wreck-Gar is given a deluxe mold next year I may end up getting a few!
I've always thought RID 2015 Strongarm would make a good G1 transplant as an addition to the Throttlebots (as a boxy vehicle in a group led by Bumblebee), so if this her and not a surprise return of Energon Strongarm I will put her with Legacy Goldbug and TR Roadburn as I await the rest of the group (futilely but with hope, as Throttlebots do).
Bombshell is a must, of course, having Kickback. I'll probably get Beachcomber, too. Having SS Brawn means this one wouldn't be a priority, but I am interested.

Overall a very exciting list!

Really exciting list we got here; Detritus, Shadow Striker, Strongarm...very interesting to see what they'll do with the latter 2 to make them more "G1". Likewise interested seeing Wild Rider in his garish G2 scheme!

Also thank Primus we're getting rereleases of those coneheads. I missed out in Ramjet & Dirge last time and I will make sure to get these ones! Poor Thrust is all alone...

Am I weird for anticipating the pretool of Bombshell and not really the rest?

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I weird for anticipating the pretool of Bombshell and not really the rest?

Oooo, I do wonder if they'll continue making the rest of the 'Deluxe Insecticons'. I hope they do, Ransack already made me eager for more.

SpaceEagle wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I weird for anticipating the pretool of Bombshell and not really the rest?

Oooo, I do wonder if they'll continue making the rest of the 'Deluxe Insecticons'. I hope they do, Ransack already made me eager for more.

I have the smaller Legends versions of the regular Insecticons, so Ransack and co. will scale really well. I just wonder if they'll pick Barrage or Venom...

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I weird for anticipating the pretool of Bombshell and not really the rest?

Oooo, I do wonder if they'll continue making the rest of the 'Deluxe Insecticons'. I hope they do, Ransack already made me eager for more.

I have the smaller Legends versions of the regular Insecticons, so Ransack and co. will scale really well. I just wonder if they'll pick Barrage or Venom...

I feel like they might use Barrage, since it lines up better with Bombshell's preexisting bug mode. Who knows!

I'll be getting Frenzy of course
I think im most excited for Devcon, I've been wanting a version of him in my collection for some time now

Detritus should be pretty cool too, along with more junkions. I'll have to see beachcomber before deciding anything but im tempted on that one. I already have SS Brawn so I'll probably skip the 86.

Fingers crossed this shadow striker is good haha the shadowstrip thing was a big bummer and I thought we wouldn't get one.

Who is scraphook?

Darn. I was hoping a Sureshot would be in the list.

Figures BOTH Ramjet and Dirge would be released after I finally gave in and pulled the trigger on buying them aftermarket..... The only figures I ever picked up when I could not get them retail.

I've probably already said this, but I'd rather they did Powerglide since I already have perfectly decent Beachcomber.

SoundWarp81 wrote:Figures BOTH Ramjet and Dirge would be released after I finally gave in and pulled the trigger on buying them aftermarket..... The only figures I ever picked up when I could not get them retail.

Everyone gets burned at least once on that kind of stuff. I just read the news on Road Rage

Will definitely be picking up Dirge and Brawn.
Hopefully this means we get a Thrust in the not to distant future too.

Yeah Thrust would be another nice one to get back out.

RiddlerJ wrote:

SoundWarp81 wrote:Figures BOTH Ramjet and Dirge would be released after I finally gave in and pulled the trigger on buying them aftermarket..... The only figures I ever picked up when I could not get them retail.

Everyone gets burned at least once on that kind of stuff. I just read the news on Road Rage

Haha yeah, happened to me with Punch/Counterpunch when they made the two-pack with Earth-mode Barricade. (At the very least I use one as Punch and the other as Counterpunch...)