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fruityrobo wrote:definitly looks nice. I might be picking it up. now i just have to wait for a review from youtube

Forget review if I still bought toys I buy all it is same figure with new head and some minor new transformation if you like first figure you will like this figure don’t need review if you own original

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fruityrobo wrote:definitly looks nice. I might be picking it up. now i just have to wait for a review from youtube

Just waiting on Amazon Japan.

He looks really nice.

BB-02 is way smaller than MP-10 in bot mode. But the same size in truck mode! There's some nice mass-shifting going on here.

dragons wrote:

fruityrobo wrote:definitly looks nice. I might be picking it up. now i just have to wait for a review from youtube

Forget review if I still bought toys I buy all it is same figure with new head and some minor new transformation if you like first figure you will like this figure don’t need review if you own original

That is nowhere near the original toy. Yes, it shares some deign cues as they originate from the same source material. But its bigger for one. The back and chest are in totally different places, and literally all of the limbsa are different. It’s not just an upsizing

"entirely new mold" yeah...... no. its the same one just made bigger and with a few things added on. its sort of like generation sandstorm, except less changes.

Flashwave wrote:

dragons wrote:

fruityrobo wrote:definitly looks nice. I might be picking it up. now i just have to wait for a review from youtube

Forget review if I still bought toys I buy all it is same figure with new head and some minor new transformation if you like first figure you will like this figure don’t need review if you own original

That is nowhere near the original toy. Yes, it shares some deign cues as they originate from the same source material. But its bigger for one. The back and chest are in totally different places, and literally all of the limbsa are different. It’s not just an upsizing

actually, the transformation is pretty much the same, with few extra steps here and there. here's the transformation video.

It would have made a lot more sense to paint the bottom of his feet than the top.

That pic shows one of the things I hate about certain figures, where the hands are obscured, particularly on any side that restricts certain accessories. AoE Evasion Prime's hands are blocked from below so if I wanted to have him hold a long staffed weapon like an axe he can't do it. That new version has completely unblocked hands and it's a vast improvement. Also as a bonus has nicer looking panels on the underneath of the forearm too.

I don't think I'll get the new figure though cos price/size/doesn't really go with anything in my (now mostly Studio Series) Transformers collection but it's certainly an upgrade in a lot of ways.

blacklai wrote:

Question, is that a transforming shield? Or just another tf put in a shield like form?

ZeroWolf wrote:

blacklai wrote:

Question, is that a transforming shield? Or just another tf put in a shield like form?

That's the shield/backpack from Calibur Optimus Prime (the figure on the right). It transforms into part of his truck mode.

bacem wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

dragons wrote:

fruityrobo wrote:definitly looks nice. I might be picking it up. now i just have to wait for a review from youtube

Forget review if I still bought toys I buy all it is same figure with new head and some minor new transformation if you like first figure you will like this figure don’t need review if you own original

That is nowhere near the original toy. Yes, it shares some deign cues as they originate from the same source material. But its bigger for one. The back and chest are in totally different places, and literally all of the limbsa are different. It’s not just an upsizing

actually, the transformation is pretty much the same, with few extra steps here and there. here's the transformation video.

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finally, we can put this debate to bed

IMO this Prime figure would have been perfect had his feet and hands been painted in reverse so for that reason I'm out...'nuff said!

Nemesis Destron wrote:IMO this Prime figure would have been perfect had his feet and hands been painted in reverse so for that reason I'm out...'nuff said!

Shark Tank style!!

I actually do like this figure, and I'm hoping we get a version of it in the SS toyline. I mean, I didn't think we'd get Legends Super Ginrai and then *boom!* Siege on Cybertron set!

Hmm..he'd look pretty neat in the rusty colors to go with my AoE Armor Knight after seeing that shot with Calibur Optimus!

itscramtastic wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:IMO this Prime figure would have been perfect had his feet and hands been painted in reverse so for that reason I'm out...'nuff said!

Shark Tank style!!

I actually do like this figure, and I'm hoping we get a version of it in the SS toyline. I mean, I didn't think we'd get Legends Super Ginrai and then *boom!* Siege on Cybertron set!

Hmm..he'd look pretty neat in the rusty colors to go with my AoE Armor Knight after seeing that shot with Calibur Optimus!

I'll wait for the inevitable Nemesis repaint

Can we call it a remaster?

itscramtastic wrote:
I actually do like this figure, and I'm hoping we get a version of it in the SS toyline.

Why would we? It's way out of scale with Studio Series.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:I actually do like this figure, and I'm hoping we get a version of it in the SS toyline.

Why would we? It's way out of scale with Studio Series.

Oh you know they'll change the SS scale to fit it!! That's "Bumblebee Movie" scale, with the giant hologram!!

carytheone wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:IMO this Prime figure would have been perfect had his feet and hands been painted in reverse so for that reason I'm out...'nuff said!

Shark Tank style!!

I actually do like this figure, and I'm hoping we get a version of it in the SS toyline. I mean, I didn't think we'd get Legends Super Ginrai and then *boom!* Siege on Cybertron set!

Hmm..he'd look pretty neat in the rusty colors to go with my AoE Armor Knight after seeing that shot with Calibur Optimus!

I'll wait for the inevitable Nemesis repaint

Can we call it a remaster?

Oh pure epicness on that possible inevitability...thanks for the mental implant carytheone! Considering I missed out on the Expo Advanced Nememsis Prime this would be an absolute good with all my other Nemesis'ises.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:
I actually do like this figure, and I'm hoping we get a version of it in the SS toyline.

Why would we? It's way out of scale with Studio Series.

You mean it's finally IN scale with Studio Series. I think it has to be fairly widely acknowledged at this point that not making the first SS Optimus a leader class was a blow to the whole "scale!" fortissimo of the line. The realization grows starker and starker with every release. You could argue it's close, but it's just not there. Optimus towers above the cohort in almost every scene, and my SS is pretty much equal with Ironhide in stature. Needed another inch or so.

I have to hope that this legendary at a minor masterpiece price point tries to somehow straddle the line between MP quality and appropriate SS-ish scale. That's what I tell myself anyway.

Octobotimus wrote:"entirely new mold" yeah...... no. its the same one just made bigger and with a few things added on. its sort of like generation sandstorm, except less changes.

It is based on a smaller toy, but it is entirely new. They did not use a single existing molded part from the AOE Evasion Prime to make this.

It's like how Siege Sideswipe is basically MP Junior, or how several Unicron era toys were similar to classics designs (I think I got those 2 right). They share engineering and Transformations and such, but no part of the mold used for one was used to make the other.

Hence, entirely new mold.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Octobotimus wrote:"entirely new mold" yeah...... no. its the same one just made bigger and with a few things added on. its sort of like generation sandstorm, except less changes.

It is based on a smaller toy, but it is entirely new. They did not use a single existing molded part from the AOE Evasion Prime to make this.

It's like how Siege Sideswipe is basically MP Junior, or how several Unicron era toys were similar to classics designs (I think I got those 2 right). They share engineering and Transformations and such, but no part of the mold used for one was used to make the other.

Hence, entirely new mold.

This is one of those stements that should be proceeded by "technically" and a glasses push up. New physical mold, but basically the same toy.

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Octobotimus wrote:"entirely new mold" yeah...... no. its the same one just made bigger and with a few things added on. its sort of like generation sandstorm, except less changes.

It is based on a smaller toy, but it is entirely new. They did not use a single existing molded part from the AOE Evasion Prime to make this.

It's like how Siege Sideswipe is basically MP Junior, or how several Unicron era toys were similar to classics designs (I think I got those 2 right). They share engineering and Transformations and such, but no part of the mold used for one was used to make the other.

Hence, entirely new mold.

This is one of those stements that should be proceeded by "technically" and a glasses push up. New physical mold, but basically the same toy.

Pretty much. but "Technically" still an entirely new mold

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

carytheone wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Octobotimus wrote:"entirely new mold" yeah...... no. its the same one just made bigger and with a few things added on. its sort of like generation sandstorm, except less changes.

It is based on a smaller toy, but it is entirely new. They did not use a single existing molded part from the AOE Evasion Prime to make this.

It's like how Siege Sideswipe is basically MP Junior, or how several Unicron era toys were similar to classics designs (I think I got those 2 right). They share engineering and Transformations and such, but no part of the mold used for one was used to make the other.

Hence, entirely new mold.

This is one of those stements that should be proceeded by "technically" and a glasses push up. New physical mold, but basically the same toy.

Pretty much. but "Technically" still an entirely new mold

Technically so was the second voyager Prime Beast Hunters Optimus and Predaking