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shajaki wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:Is Defensor 2015 stumpy? Yes. But so is Menasor.

That is not helping either's case. Superion is the only one whose torso looks well proportioned.

But we've all found ways to make Menasor's proportions better, and I'm betting the same can be done for Defensor.

Sabrblade wrote:That is not helping either's case. Superion is the only one whose torso looks well proportioned.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Genericon #378 wrote:

TimothyR wrote:

Superginraix wrote:

MrBlack wrote:

Yotsuyasan wrote:

MrBlack wrote:Because Alpha Bravo has ALWAYS BEEN AN AERIALBOT.

Funny. I just watched The Key to Vector Sigma last night, and I could swear there were five jets, including some guy named Slingshot who was kind of a jerk to Ironhide, and in fact the most prominent member of the team in their introductory episode aside from Silverbolt. And I didn't see any Alpha Bravo anywhere...

So, er, define "always," please. Because the way I understood the word, it was not a subjective word.

Lies. Alpha Bravo has ALWAYS BEEN AN AERIALBOT.

I know it's a Photoshop. I just find some of the venom directed at Alpha Bravo a little ridiculous, and the idea that he has retroactively been made a G1 Aerialbot to destroy the childhood of his naysayers strikes me as funny.

QUIT DESTROYING MY CHILDHOOD MRBLACK!!!

it has nothing to do with destroying anyone's childhood.. it has to do with the fact that it's been thirty years since we've gotten proper combiners. to make them the right way now, but just decide to completely change a member of each team for absolutely no other reason than them being greedy IS a problem.. it's not ruining my childhood, but it's crushing my faith in hasbro which has already been squashed enough as it is.

it's great that they are releasing both slingshot and wildrider.. but it doesn't look like we'll be getting a proper groove. so, that sucks.

it'd be like starting a generations line and not including an optimus prime, but instead, they just out of the blue invent a brand new autobot leader.. so, you'd have all of the other classic autobots being lead by a brand new leader for absolutely no reason. it's just not right and it's easy to see why it would piss some people off.

if they really wanted to add a new member, they should've started with the proper teams first, then introduce the new characters later.

i'm all for new characters, bulkhead, lockdown, the movie decepticons, all really cool. adding a helicopter to a team of combining jets is stupid. adding an SUV to a limb team of sports cars is stupid. now.. had they released the original team first, then in a later wave introduced the new characters in the pack in comics, that would've been pretty cool. but that's not how it went down.

it's a clear money grab. wait until both alpha bravo and offroad had sold a bunch, then reveal slingshot and wildrider online.. that's pretty low.

Hmmm, what should the new member for the AERIALbots transform into? I've got it.......a helicopter!

aer·i·al
ˈerēəl/
adjective
1.
existing, happening, or operating in the air.
"an aerial battle"

my god, it doesn't just mean jets

Sabrblade wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:Is Defensor 2015 stumpy? Yes. But so is Menasor.

That is not helping either's case. Superion is the only one whose torso looks well proportioned.

But we've all found ways to make Menasor's proportions better, and I'm betting the same can be done for Defensor.

Here's hoping.

Shockwave7 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:That is not helping either's case. Superion is the only one whose torso looks well proportioned.

...

If any combiner had to be stumpy, Defensor kind of makes sense. He looks like a burly, stocky police enforcer, which kind of goes with his image of defense and protection... That's my rationalization anyway

Bradimus wrote:We are talking about Superion here, all others are inferior.

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:Is Defensor 2015 stumpy? Yes. But so is Menasor.

That is not helping either's case. Superion is the only one whose torso looks well proportioned.

But we've all found ways to make Menasor's proportions better, and I'm betting the same can be done for Defensor.

Here's hoping.

To my eye, Defensor already looks well proportioned.

Am I the only one?

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:Is Defensor 2015 stumpy? Yes. But so is Menasor.

That is not helping either's case. Superion is the only one whose torso looks well proportioned.

But we've all found ways to make Menasor's proportions better, and I'm betting the same can be done for Defensor.

Here's hoping.

To my eye, Defensor already looks well proportioned.

Am I the only one?

Delta Magnus wrote:Defensor is looking pretty great. I think Rook looks best as a leg though.

Shame he's going to tower over my hopelessly floppy FP Bruticus...

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Va'al wrote:Your face is better.

Your motherboard's better.

Va'al wrote:Your face is better.

Va'al wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Va'al wrote:Your face is better.

Your motherboard's better.

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Yotsuyasan wrote:

Rated X wrote:A proper Groove would be nice too. Rook is pure garbage.

Saying this as someone who is kind of trying to be a G1 purist with his combiners, and thus never had any plans to buy Alpha Bravo and ordered the Takara Superion...

I dunno, Rook kind of doesn't seem as bad. I suppose it helps that, even if downgraded to chest plate, at least Groove is still a part of the team. So Defensor does still contain all five of his original members. But I won't be upset to have Rook in my collection.

Granted, that all being said, if Takara announces their Defensor tomorrow and it has a Deluxe Groove that looks pretty good, I may have some pre-orders to cancel! But even if that happens, unlike Alpha Bravo, I may still try to snag Rook separately.

Not sure if I should hold my breath, though. Unlike Slingshot and Wildrider, who would Takara make Groove from? Unless there is an as yet unrevealed motorcycle mold (perhaps being developed for Computron), there isn't exactly a ready to go pre-existing mold for Takara to redeco as Groove like they did for the other two Hasbro-replaced Combiner Wars limbs.