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SillySpringer wrote:

Emerje wrote:I wonder if people would complain if the sled folded up on his back the way Shockwave's stand does?

Emerje

Does it? It kinda looks like it maybe can...

fenrir72 wrote:

megatronus wrote:

munkimus prime wrote:One more thing where would the side skirts and wheels on his butt go since in the cartoon his Transformation defied the laws of physics with all his vehicle mode bits just disappearing into nothing.

I don't know about the wheels, but those panels should have been engineered to slide, swivel, or flip up and cover the very obvious gaps in his mid-section. Or, how about they just follow the wheels and become butt kibble. That sounds a whole lot better than mucking up the robot mode and hindering the leg articulation.

munkimus prime wrote:What do you people want the designers to do, use black Magic to copy a design that in Robot mode had zero vehicle bits on show to work with and still transform into a van. I doubt even Hasui could of engineered that and still make it look good. This figure is probably the best anyone could do with the design they had to work with and all we can do is be perfectionists who nit-pick every detail.

Please.

Ironhide could have been better designed and engineered. It doesn't take black magic, it takes a budget. As nice as Ultra Magnus is, that toy definitely suffered in some areas because they tried very hard to cut costs. I would not be surprised if Ironhide was a similar case.

As far as I'm concerned, this figure is a decent placeholder, but not a definitive version of the character in any sense.

This. TT has a certain budget cutoff point. And you follow what the suits upstairs say so. 3rd party companies are more likely a bunch of family/buddies/co-investors/designers package willing to take a gamble etc etc unlike the corporate slugs.

Before this gets relegated to which is better, 3rd party or 1st, the proof in the pie is in the "humping". So let's wait until it gets delivered.

munkimus prime wrote:I just don't get the hate this figure is receiving. This is probably the definitive version of Ironhide we will ever get. One more thing where would the side skirts and wheels on his butt go since in the cartoon his Transformation defied the laws of physics with all his vehicle mode bits just disappearing into nothing. What do you people want the designers to do, use black Magic to copy a design that in Robot mode had zero vehicle bits on show to work with and still transform into a van. I doubt even Hasui could of engineered that and still make it look good. This figure is probably the best anyone could do with the design they had to work with and all we can do is be perfectionists who nit-pick every detail.

MegaDump wrote:Well, we definitely know that no black magic is necessary because there are 3rd Party designs, particularly the Voodoo model, that DO manage to achieve the things you've mentioned. Although I suppose there is some irony in a company called Voodoo NOT using black magic lol. Again, 3rd party companies should not even be contenders when it comes to producing the "definitive" look of any particular character. Has/Tak have done brilliant jobs with previous MP releases, but I think it's fair to say that this one has divided the fan community more than any previous release. So much so, that we'll probably get an updated version at some point in the future. At least, I hope so... Because I sure wont be buying this mess in it's current form.

Cobotron wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:I think he looks good, but the proof is in the pudding -- I guess we'll find out soon enough!

I can't wait to get some pudding!

He looks great in that shot with the sunlight all bouncing off of him.

Cyberpath wrote:

Emerje wrote:

MegaDump wrote:Well, we definitely know that no black magic is necessary because there are 3rd Party designs, particularly the Voodoo model, that DO manage to achieve the things you've mentioned. Although I suppose there is some irony in a company called Voodoo NOT using black magic lol. Again, 3rd party companies should not even be contenders when it comes to producing the "definitive" look of any particular character. Has/Tak have done brilliant jobs with previous MP releases, but I think it's fair to say that this one has divided the fan community more than any previous release. So much so, that we'll probably get an updated version at some point in the future. At least, I hope so... Because I sure wont be buying this mess in it's current form.

Eh, the Voodoo Robots versions do the torsos right, but the legs (and those window feet!) are completely wrong for the TV likeness Takara Tomy was going for (and many of us prefer) and the arms look no better at all still leaving chunks of stuff on the back of the forearms. It really comes down to preference and I find more than enough faults with all of the third party versions that I'm satisfied with the official version.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:Man, that quite a gut he has:

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Man, that quite a gut he has:

And yet, his profile from the front is thin and sleek. I'm not sure if that's a positive or a negative.

Emerje wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Man, that quite a gut he has:

And yet, his profile from the front is thin and sleek. I'm not sure if that's a positive or a negative.

It's because of the way his shoulders sit back. If they were forward just a little more in line with his head and hips his "gut" wouldn't seem so big.

Emerje

Rodimus Minor wrote:I don't get all the Hate this figure is getting, if you don't like it don't buy it there simple answer people.

I am excited for this figure but as my Brother is Getting Ironhide I can save money to see what the Mould is Like then if I like it I will get Ratchet but so far I like the look of the toy

megatronus wrote:

Rodimus Minor wrote:I don't get all the Hate this figure is getting, if you don't like it don't buy it there simple answer people.

I am excited for this figure but as my Brother is Getting Ironhide I can save money to see what the Mould is Like then if I like it I will get Ratchet but so far I like the look of the toy

This is a two way street.

"I don't get the Love this figure is getting. If you like it, buy it."

But... you're not buying it. You're waiting for someone else to get it to see if you like it. So...