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Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 12:24 pm**

Awww hazelnuts :BANG_HEAD:

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 12:26 pm**

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Awww hazelnuts

If he's available on amiami, I am ok. If Takara Tomy are making the set Takara Tomy Mall exclusive, then I will be PISSED! I guess that means if BBTS does sell this set, it will be at a significant markup due to how they will need a third party distributor to make the connection from Japan to America instead of bypassing the process and getting it directly from the vietnamese warehouse.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 12:40 pm**

GRRRRAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! damnit....

yo, people should make a huge stink at botcon the let hasbro know we REALLY want this.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 12:40 pm**

william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Awww hazelnuts

If he's available on amiami, I am ok. If Takara Tomy are making the set Takara Tomy Mall exclusive, then I will be PISSED! I guess that means if BBTS does sell this set, it will be at a significant markup due to how they will need a third party distributor to make the connection from Japan to America instead of bypassing the process and getting it directly from the vietnamese warehouse.

well, I wasnt sold on "groove" but I do hope we get the mold. He looks pretty cool.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 12:40 pm**

I can see this eventually becoming an online exclusive here in the states. Either way i can live with the legends version on Defensor's chest. Rook is an excellent limb anyways. :grin:

side question. do any of you think that Takara will release any of the new combiner team members in their line or will they only be exclusive to the US? :-?

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 12:58 pm**

skidflap wrote:I can see this eventually becoming an online exclusive here in the states. Either way i can live with the legends version on Defensor's chest. Rook is an excellent limb anyways.

side question. do any of you think that Takara will release any of the new combiner team members in their line or will they only be exclusive to the US?

Except it won't since it says that it will not be available oversees.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 12:59 pm**

To be honest,as much as I would like to have a bike as a limb, that is one hell of a huge bike. I mean think about it, a bike as big as an ambulance? They can keep that exclusive

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:00 pm**

Translations can often be misinterpretted. I'm willing to bet they'll do a release similar to Wildrider and Slingshot

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:01 pm**

What Hasbro did with Groove makes total sense, it was always very odd how a motorcycle was the same size as the other limbs. Granted there are always scale problems and that only dealt with one, but at least it's a decent reason unlike that whole Alpha Bravo nonsense.

That said... I wonder if the deluxe version could be retooled into a Junkion or four.... A junkion combiner... now there's an interesting idea. I wonder who could use to make the body. Hmmm... Just all wishful thinking, really, I guess.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:05 pm**

This latest bit of potential news is a bit concerning... I hope Takara's Defensor isn't an exclusive and does get a regular retail release in Japan! I'm counting on it being available at retailers such as BBTS and TFSource for a price similar to what the other Unite Warriors sets are going for. If it is an exclusive, that could cause the price to jump up! I am hoping that that is just a misunderstanding of the rather loose translation.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:07 pm**

G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:To be honest,as much as I would like to have a bike as a limb, that is one hell of a huge bike. I mean think about it, a bike as big as an ambulance? They can keep that exclusive

Transformers G1 1986 Groove Gallery

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:09 pm**

Mkall wrote:Translations can often be misinterpretted. I'm willing to bet they'll do a release similar to Wildrider and Slingshot

skidflap wrote:I can see this eventually becoming an online exclusive here in the states.

They are pretty clear about not available overseas. Don't know what else that could mean. And skidflap, that fine print is not present for the other combiners so we are not talking about a similar case to Wildrider and Slingshot. So we cant expect the same thing this time around.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:10 pm**

That picture some it up,that's why I enjoy the combiner wars, they at least are trying to have the toys the right size

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:15 pm**

Yotsuyasan wrote:This latest bit of potential news is a bit concerning... I hope Takara's Defensor isn't an exclusive and does get a regular retail release in Japan! I'm counting on it being available at retailers such as BBTS and TFSource for a price similar to what the other Unite Warriors sets are going for. If it is an exclusive, that could cause the price to jump up! I am hoping that that is just a misunderstanding of the rather loose translation.

I am also concerned. I am pretty sure it will get a regular release in Japan since that doesnt go against selling overseas. BUT I am really not sure about how BBTS will get a hold of it. It could go like the Alternity line where BBTS had to buy it at Japanese retail and resell it in the states.

As I said previously, if HLJ and Amiami also get this guy, I think it will be a decent trade off. They remain Japan exclusive that way. How do you interpret the translation?

Here is the original text, if someone reads japanese, let us know what it says:

トランスフォーマーの人気合体戦士に焦点を当てたシリーズ「ユナイトウォリアーズ」の第3弾は、タカラトミーモール限定販売で、サイバトロンのプロテクトボット合体戦士「ガーディアン」が登場！
ホットスポット・グレイズ・ストリートワイズ・ファーストエイド・グルーブの５体が付属し、それぞれロボットモード・ビークルモード・合体形態の３つのモードに変形可能。
全キャラクター国内では初の金型になることに加え、「グルーブ」は海外でも手に入らない完全新規金型商品！
手足のキャラクターは場所の入れ替えが可能で、同シリーズの「スぺリオン」や「メナゾール」とも互換性があります。

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:20 pm**

Groove looks phenomenal, I'm just sorry I'm going to hafta miss out on all of TakTom's combining goodness.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:22 pm**

From the way it was presented I would say that this is a limited Japanese release where Takara will not accept foreign requests for the sets.

I do not believe that it is definitively saying that the Groove figure itself would not be sold by Hasbro.

So hope for the figure, Yes.
Hope for the full set, No.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:32 pm**

Dang. I'm not too terribly broken up, I do like Rook and am fine with the Legends Groove. Still I'll wait to hear back if we get any more updates or if the translation was misinterpreted - it'd be a shame if it was an exclusive, 'cause that's one really good looking bike model.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:37 pm**

Editor wrote:From the way it was presented I would say that this is a limited Japanese release where Takara will not accept foreign requests for the sets.

I do not believe that it is definitively saying that the Groove figure itself would not be sold by Hasbro.

So hope for the figure, Yes.
Hope for the full set, No.

That's quite odd. Why would Takara make Defensor a limited release, while the rest of the Unite Warriors offerings are mass retail? Is Defensor substantially less popular in Japan, or something? There is going to be a lot of demand for this set, like the two before it, for non-Takara markets, so why miss out on selling to foreign retailers and making even more money? Nothing about this makes any sense.

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:38 pm**

Mkall wrote:Translations can often be misinterpretted. I'm willing to bet they'll do a release similar to Wildrider and Slingshot

I agree, I think this could be a mistranslation. Groove is a new mold, It could mean that Takara is releasing him first, doesn't mean that Hasbro won't. With Wildrider and Slingshot those are repaints with new heads... so let's see how this develops

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:40 pm**

That would be so racist if it wasn't released outside of Japan...

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:48 pm**

ok, if Hasbro's excuse for not releasing Groove is that they have Legends Groove, let me remind everybody that we got a Legends Thundercracker and a Leader Thundercracker in the same line within months of each other. Not getting this to US fans would be the biggest failure this year for Hasbro

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:52 pm**

So...... Combiner Wars Wreck-gar?

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:52 pm**

Kibble wrote:That would be so racist if it wasn't released outside of Japan...

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:53 pm**

Kibble wrote:That would be so racist if it wasn't released outside of Japan...

As opposed to every other takara exclusive product like the Alternity line and MP12? Was Prime Breakdown also a racist thing?

He can still be ordered off Takaratomymall (right?).

Robogeek1973 wrote:Groove looks phenomenal, I'm just sorry I'm going to hafta miss out on all of TakTom's combining goodness.

Why missing out, there are only marginally more expensive than the Hasbro versions:

Transformers Unite Warriors UW01 Superion

Transformers Unite Warriors UW02 Menasor

Posted: **Thu May 21, 2015 1:56 pm**

Takara doesn't want me to have this?

Now I MUST own it!

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